# Pheromones have ruined my life **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 14, 2011, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350 "2011-09-14T10:03:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/103 "2011-09-20T22:36:55Z")
> [@Ultimate](#): > > Am I allowed to believe my own eyes when I go to the Drs surgery and I have a choice of not one, not two, but three pakistani Drs. Am I allowed to believe my own ears when I get told by my next nearest surgery that all their Drs are foreign? Am I allowed to believe my own eyes when I look online to find only one Dr in my town has a non pakistani name? Still, must be the daily mail influencing me to imagine I am seeing and hearing such things It wouldn’t suprise me, since you seem to imagine a lot of stuff that isnt real but you’re right and everyone else is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/104 "2011-09-20T22:38:37Z")
The only person I know who suffered a headache for three days also showed signs of bi-polor disorder, kind of like your personal experiences, had a brain tumor. Serious stuff and might I suggest you have some head scans. No this is not a joke. He died from it, but if you catch it early enough you might be able to save yourself if you do. ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/105 "2011-09-20T22:39:30Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > **Guys can we keep it civil in here, the rest of us are trying to do science.** I’m trying, realy I am. Just sick of the influx of posts that are either by blatantly obvious trolls, or posts by people who have obvious emotional issues and blame the pheromones without even having a grasp on what the mones actually do. Not to mention this particular poster’s desire to ask for advice or solutions to alleged issues, when he’s already made his mind up and refutes any ideas from people who have been using mones regularly for years… in other words a ‘know it all’. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/106 "2011-09-20T22:44:46Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > I’m trying, realy I am. > > Just sick of the influx of posts that are either by blatantly obvious trolls, or posts by people who have obvious emotional issues and blame the pheromones without even having a grasp on what the mones actually do. > > Not to mention this particular poster’s desire to ask for advice or solutions to alleged issues, when he’s already made his mind up and refutes any ideas from people who have been using mones regularly for years… in other words a ‘know it all’. I understand dude. Fact is - they are ignoring a real health issue that is non-pheromone related and like Steve said its probably something serious. Also I can see how having a headache for three days straight would make you post some perrrrrrty weird things on the internet. They need professional help and we should be supportive. I encourage people to be honest about their pheromone experiences because honestly, its the only way this forum means anything - honesty. We need people’s real impressions so we can know if a product is working or not. However, yes I agree that this is either a troll or somebody completely out of touch. The thread should really just fizzle out eventually and we can all move on with science! ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/107 "2011-09-20T22:59:07Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > The thread should really just fizzle out eventually and we can all move on with science! Hey, she blinded me with that stuff, you know! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/109 "2011-09-20T23:26:22Z")
Seriously guys, get civil. I don’t want to put people in mod because you can’t play nice. Lets hug, talk science, and get things moving. Every other thread here has come to a halt and people out there need your support. This video is NSFW but please feel free to view it: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/c/c4cf1420b93ba5a53e66e76cfdba9747188e99fe.jpeg "It's okay to not like things") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI) ---
**Author:** ![Vincelee777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b3f665/32.png) [@Vincelee777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vincelee777)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/110 "2011-09-21T02:47:11Z")
Sounds pretty serious. On a side note, I was wondering whether after wearing pheromones after a long time and stopping it abruptly might cause ‘negative feedback’ which means the body starts producing lesser natural pheromones due to the excess pheromones perceived by the brain initially. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/111 "2011-09-21T09:23:04Z")
> [@Vincelee777](#): > > Sounds pretty serious. > > On a side note, I was wondering whether after wearing pheromones after a long time and stopping it abruptly might cause ‘negative feedback’ which means the body starts producing lesser natural pheromones due to the excess pheromones perceived by the brain initially. I cant speak for the males here but I have used them for over 12 years not just from here but from many companies with no problems. I never experienced a withdrawal or a change in my natural hormones levels when I take long breaks or while using them. I do see a functional medicine practitioner yearly for tests and she does a hormone panel. If anything they have made me sharper and more aware of people and the environment. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Walc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/walc/32/2210_2.png) [@Walc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Walc)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/112 "2011-09-21T20:12:57Z")
well, this thread makes me wish for more and harder education in scentific methodology as early in school as possible. Having a good idea of what constitutes scientific proof, basic logical fallacies and what a double-blinded placebo trial is, is stuff that each and everyone must know. ---
**Author:** ![Ultimate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ba8739/32.png) [@Ultimate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ultimate)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/113 "2011-10-27T11:42:02Z")
Just to update you. I got the results of my blood test for chemical sensitivity. It showed I have a dna adduct (chemical attached to dna which damages it) of 17beta-hydroxy-androstenone, which is located near the NAP-2 gene, q4 #1 (for you science guys). ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/114 "2011-10-27T18:27:23Z")
wtf does that mean? laymans terms please lol ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/115 "2011-10-27T18:33:11Z")
> [@Ultimate](#): > > Just to update you. I got the results of my blood test for chemical sensitivity. It showed I have a dna adduct (chemical attached to dna which damages it) of 17beta-hydroxy-androstenone, which is located near the NAP-2 gene, q4 #1 (for you science guys). So what are you trying to say? ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/116 "2011-10-27T18:47:12Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > So what are you trying to say? That he might get cancer. [http://i39.tinypic.com/a5kaxh.gif](http://i39.tinypic.com/a5kaxh.gif) ---
**Author:** ![alex398](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@alex398](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alex398)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/117 "2011-10-27T19:13:47Z")
If ultimate is telling the truth(wich i am not sure he is) then he is an exception of people who use mones products. As i have not heard anything like this from anyone else who has used these products. Every new science has its casualties i guess. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/118 "2011-10-27T20:28:09Z")
> [@lifeisgood7](#): > > wtf does that mean? laymans terms please lol It means either his doctor is a jackass or his mama ingested chemicals when he was in vitro and he received a genetic imprint on his DNA. > [@Ultimate](#): > > Just to update you. I got the results of my blood test for chemical sensitivity. It showed I have a dna adduct (chemical attached to dna which damages it) of 17beta-hydroxy-androstenone, which is located near the NAP-2 gene, q4 #1 (for you science guys). Sweety DNA adducts are pieces of DNA that are bonded to chemicals that are classified as carcinogens Anone is naturally found in the body and its not a carcinogen nor is it classified as one. Some steroid can cause adducts. chlormadinone acetate a substance found in birth control is shown to cause adducts. norethisterone acetate another used in birth control shows adducts. Tobacco causes them, alcohol causes them. These are not indicators of cancer and have no effect on the genetic chain. One other consideration, these substances have to travel in the blood so they need to be ingested for DNA to bind to them. Unless you drank your pheromones there is no way this can occur. You have a brain blood barrier. Pheromones trigger the signal of the neurotransmitters. They dont travel farther then the place in your brain where triggering occurs. Just to give your doctor the benefit of the doubt I talked to my brother who is a scientist and works with biochemicals all day every day. His first question … Did he drink the stuff, how did it get past the epidermis and the brain barrier ? Get a new doctor, preferably one who knows what the hell he is talking about. If your doctor thinks this occured from inhaling anone in its pheromonal form then the entire population has DNA adducts and sweat is toxic. If your gonna troll at least do it well. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/119 "2011-10-27T20:48:39Z")
Please keep things civil ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/120 "2011-10-28T00:32:45Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Please keep things civil They are civil, I didnt call him a name I called his doctor a name and he/she is not a member here. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/121 "2011-10-28T01:58:57Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > They are civil, I didnt call him a name I called his doctor a name and he/she is not a member here. 😉 Tisha, have I told you how awesome you are recently? ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 11:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/122 "2011-10-28T11:45:33Z")
> [@Ultimate](#): > > Just to update you. I got the results of my blood test for chemical sensitivity. It showed I have a dna adduct (chemical attached to dna which damages it) of 17beta-hydroxy-androstenone, which is located near the NAP-2 gene, q4 #1 (for you science guys). And of course, like any sane person, you asked your doctor “What can cause this?”, to which he replied…? ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350/123 "2011-10-28T12:43:42Z")
Coincidentally, I’ve been studying the brain in pathology lately. From my understanding of what tisha said and my understanding of physiology, she’s right. There’s no way something ie pheromones could penetrate the blood brain layer. Most bacteria and viruses cannot penetrate this as your body knows it is an important structure so it protects it well. And I seriously can’t believe you’re still trying. Do you really have nothing better to do? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-have-ruined-my-life/52350.md?page=7)