# Pheromones made me depressed **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 12, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003 "2007-02-12T19:24:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/1 "2007-02-12T19:24:00Z")
I think the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) have made me depressed. I have thoughts of helplessness now and im becoming suicidal and depressed and this only happens when im wearing pheromones. Instant shine especially. ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/2 "2007-02-12T19:30:13Z")
hmm yea… sounds like u have issues that u r dealing with and u think its the phero’s. I mean suicidal on a instant shine? its like sayin u r becoming sucidial ova just a smell =/ ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/3 "2007-02-12T19:33:44Z")
Well, lay off it for a while. Personally I’ve never experienced depression from pheromone use. However, if I’m depressed, the pheromones seem to enhance and make the depression more obvious. So I avoid all pheromones if I’m down or having a bad day. Costco and Safeway meat gives me terrible depression. I suspect some type of preservative. I’m slowly turning organic vegetarian and have since rarely been depressed. Does [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) contain A-1? Of all the pheromones it is the only one I’ve heard multiple reports linking it to male depression. Luckily it doesn’t bother me. ---
**Author:** ![Gem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Gem](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gem)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/4 "2007-02-12T19:36:39Z")
High None Pheros make me edgy and paranoid if I use them in stressful situations (like at work) ---
**Author:** ![Marik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marik/32/1623_2.png) [@Marik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marik)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/5 "2007-02-12T19:49:49Z")
> [@Gem](#): > > High None Pheros make me **edgy** and paranoid if I use them in stressful situations (like at work) Idem for me. High dose of NPA could be very unfriendly even for the wearer. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/6 "2007-02-12T20:14:15Z")
The Taa in instant shine can drive up anxiety which could exaserbate a pre existing conditon. The only phero that has been reported to cause depression in some men is Androstadienone found in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Stay off the pheromones for a bit. If it doesn’t clear up, you may want to see a pshyc doctor. I did when I had issues and it helped a lot. If you need any help IM me. I know this area all to well. ---
**Author:** ![attractor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@attractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/attractor)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/7 "2007-02-12T20:33:02Z")
I’m normally a very up person. I was wearing Chikara (from another vendor) every day I found myself depressed. When I stopped, it went away. I can wear other pheromones every day such as A314 without depression. I think each individual is different. Stop using any pheromone that makes you depressed. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/8 "2007-02-12T21:31:28Z")
> [@](#): > > High dose of NPA could be very unfriendly even for the wearer. It really depends on the individual. I can nearly bathe in NPA and don’t feel a thing. Others claim to transform into psycho killers immediately get in fist fights with friend and foe alike. All I can say is say outta gyms and locker rooms if androstenone bothers you! The funk in there is thicker than any bottle of NPA. I frequently wear 5 or 6 drops of NPA with zero negative reactions other than some women being unusually sexually aggressive. I’ve worn as many as 12 drop while trying to find my OD point. Couldn’t OD. Of course as a middle aged Asian male I probably have little or no natural androstenone. I also have a mellow persona which may also account for me being able to wear high amounts of NPA. Incidentally A-1 is rumored to be the secret [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) blended with Androstenone in NPA. Some males seem to be intolerant of A-1 or suffer mild depression. My fav mix for a 2nd or 3rd date is NPA, A-1 and Burberry Weekend, all premixed in an atomizer. Women pretty much grow an extra set of horns. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/9 "2007-02-12T22:30:33Z")
> [@24isnotM24](#): > > I think the pheromones have made me depressed. I have thoughts of helplessness now and im becoming suicidal and depressed and this only happens when im wearing pheromones. Instant shine especially. Do you smoke? How is your diet? Pheromones can be expensive metabolically and if you don’t have adequate intake of precursors to neurotransmitters that might be part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/10 "2007-02-12T23:17:31Z")
24isnotM24 is 14 years old, Quirk. I know nobody that young who uses pheromones, so I can’t advise him at all, but as a doctor, I AM a wee tad concerned that some of the constituents of the products may actually be slightly detrimental for someone in what is in a MALE (not a female) still pre-puberty, but without getting too technical, I can’t really go into my thinking on this one, and as said before, I prefer as much as possible, to keep work life and chilling time (here) separate. I know Jas did say it was fine for 24isnotM24 to use the products, but there are just a couple of his posts that have set a wee alarm bell ringing for me, and I think to be honest, that as MarkL advised Matt, he really would be better laying off anything other than [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) for the time-being.. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/11 "2007-02-12T23:21:26Z")
We don’t really know much about how kids respond to pheromones … Matt’s 14 and it’s possible that his response is different or stronger due to his age. Something to consider. Or possibly it’s nothing to do with age, and some people just have atypical responses. There have been a few reports from guys who had a kind of emotional letdown or down mood or exhaustion after a few hours on Androstenol dominant products, which would make sense if some pheromones “use up” neurotransmitters, or somehow tax your adrenals. Matt, I hope you’ll check in here soon and let us know how you’re doing. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/12 "2007-02-12T23:50:37Z")
Sheesh, If 24isnotM24 only 14 I’d say take time to be a normal kid and lay off the dad burn pheromones. The adolescence years are already complicated and confusing enough. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/13 "2007-02-13T01:14:01Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > 24isnotM24 is 14 years old, Quirk. I know nobody that young who uses pheromones, so I can’t advise him at all, but as a doctor, I AM a wee tad concerned that some of the constituents of the products may actually be slightly detrimental for someone in what is in a MALE (not a female) still pre-puberty, but without getting too technical, I can’t really go into my thinking on this one, and as said before, I prefer as much as possible, to keep work life and chilling time (here) separate. > > I know Jas did say it was fine for 24isnotM24 to use the products, but there are just a couple of his posts that have set a wee alarm bell ringing for me, and I think to be honest, that as MarkL advised Matt, he really would be better laying off anything other than social pheromones for the time-being.. > > Ail 🙂 In that case, laying off the 'none (and maybe all mones) makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/14 "2007-02-13T01:21:57Z")
> [@24isnotM24](#): > > I think the pheromones have made me depressed. I have thoughts of helplessness now and im becoming suicidal and depressed and this only happens when im wearing pheromones. Instant shine especially. Lay off the pheromones and if you think IShine is causing your depression, definitely stop using it. If you must use, follow the advice for application point so that it affects others more and has less effect on you. Back of neck, wrists, basically far from your nose. If you still have any problem lay it off completely until you are older. Also I am curious what other products do you have? Drink lots of fluids and get good sleep! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/15 "2007-02-13T02:15:56Z")
I agree that you should stay away from the pheromones all together. If you do not heed the advice (at 14 I was a genius and knew it all) at least use very minimal sprays and only 1 at a time, but I again urge you to stop. This is a very serious post and everyone here is worried for your well being. I have personally battled depression and I know the pain it causes. Please do not consider yourself alone, there are many people that would be willing to help, and most importantly just listen to you. It is important you find someone to share these feelings with. The key that unlocked me from years of depressive bouts that kept me lonely, sad and near suicidal was realizing I was not alone. The outpouring of love from strangers willing to do whatever it took to help me renewed my faith in life and for that I am forever grateful. If I can help you in any way please private message me and I will be willing to pass on my phone number, email, or IM if you ever want to just talk and get it off your chest. I’m sure you will find many others in this community who would be willing to do the same. ---
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/16 "2007-02-13T23:55:07Z")
i have depression and im seeing a doctor about it. Its getting over me but ive noticed instant shine makes it just as worse. ---
**Author:** ![24isnotM24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/c57346/32.png) [@24isnotM24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/24isnotM24)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/17 "2007-02-14T21:54:41Z")
i think i figured it out. I tried instant shine today after a while and it worked like the first time i used it magneficently. Maybe its the residue from previous pheromones sprays that are giving the depression effect? How do you properly clean pheromones off? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/18 "2007-02-14T22:10:24Z")
Well 24isnotM24, that is a tricky thing. It is a good chance you had build up. When you bath you should scrub the aplication points with a relitively strong soap and one of those shower poof things. I would avoid spraying pheromones into your hair as they stick much longer. For cleaning your hair, you should use a nioxin type shampoo (hair loss shampoo), but I don’t think that would be a good idea for you at your age. Sucks being young, but enjoy it while you can eh? 😃 Perhaps you should reserve pheromones for special occasions. When you need to make a good impression on a hottie for example. You definatley need to take breaks from regular use. I’m assuming you didn’t do this, or not enough. normaly a 2-3 day break per weak is advised. It might be a good idea for you to only wear pheromones every 2nd or third day, so you have a clean pallet before you put on any pheromones again. I’ve noticed that If I don’t shower, I can smell the pheromones scent on aplication points at the 24 hr mark. Just take care of yourself, you are pioneering the youth application. Always remeber that your body chemistry is still progressing, where all the other users here have alread reached the stopping point for growth and development. Keep up the good work, and great posts. ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/19 "2007-02-14T22:15:02Z")
This is what happens: TAH : large depression Pherlure: MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE DEPRESSION TUTH and mx102: HIGH LEVELS OF STRESS BUT CONTROLED WHEN MY TESTOSTERONE IS VERY HIGH LIKE RIGHT NOW ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003/20 "2007-02-14T22:16:57Z")
> [@](#): > > TAH: large depression Are you friggin kidding? When and where were you using it, and how many trials did you have? This just totally doesn’t make sense to me, since I use that molecule way too much, on both sexes and it seems to work out just fine. I’m interested to know your testing data on it… situations, grounds, your mood to start out with? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-made-me-depressed/2003.md?page=2)