# Pheromones on clothes vs skin: less diffusion, and will the clothes start to smell?

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**Created:** [June 2, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746 "2012-06-02T02:19:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![PheroHobbyist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PheroHobbyist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroHobbyist)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/1 "2012-06-02T02:19:20Z")

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Pheros on clothes - do they rub off less easily than on skin?  
How does cotton compare to other materials?  
Do they last longer?

Thanks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/2 "2012-06-02T03:47:37Z")

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You could apply to clothes but its not ideal.

It lessens diffusion of the [pheromones](https://a314.com/). Cloth tends to absorb and hold onto scents.

It affects distance that people are effected as well due to lack of diffusion. You tend to need more and need to be much closer to the targets to see the effect. Takes longer to in my opinion.

They can make your clothes smelly over time and its not impossible to wash out but harder. So yes they tend to last longer but are far less effective.

Cotton breathes. Some is going to get on your clothes regardless and cotton is the best bet for diffusion even though its absorbent. Some people spray on there belts or polyester which is less absorbent but these areas lack the heat needed for diffusion because they trap heat in and don’t breathe.

If you have skin issues then go with the cloth application method but if not my advice if to stick with skin which is a natural diffuser.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/3 "2012-06-02T08:16:29Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> You could apply to clothes but its not ideal.
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> It lessens diffusion of the pheromones. Cloth tends to absorb and hold onto scents.
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> It affects distance that people are effected as well due to lack of diffusion. You tend to need more and need to be much closer to the targets to see the effect. Takes longer to in my opinion.
> 
> They can make your clothes smelly over time and its not impossible to wash out but harder. So yes they tend to last longer but are far less effective.
> 
> Cotton breathes. Some is going to get on your clothes regardless and cotton is the best bet for diffusion even though its absorbent. Some people spray on there belts or polyester which is less absorbent but these areas lack the heat needed for diffusion because they trap heat in and don’t breathe.
> 
> If you have skin issues then go with the cloth application method but if not my advice if to stick with skin which is a natural diffuser.
> 
> Tisha

For myself, I have made good experiences with clothing-applications. Unfortunately I am not able to smell mones and so I am a little bit worried that clothings begin to smell after some mones-appliactions. On the other hand, I’m worried too, that an application on skin could leads to builtup/OD and /or that Nols and especially A1 converts to None after time.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/4 "2012-06-02T08:49:54Z")

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Clothes application can be useful but I wouldn’t rely on it for my main phero use for most of the reasons Tisha gives.

Different fibers have differing absorption/diffusion properties and yes, the trapped pheros can stink and need considerable washing to remove. Some of the more subtle/steering pheros also seem to lose their effectiveness compared to the bore basic signals.

Effective doses on clothing tend to be far higher and at my age, that can mean considerable extra cost in pheros too. Even pheros that claim to be “designed” for clothes application like Alter Ego can be used far better and more efficiently with skin application.

Lastly, I have “lost” too many good expensive dress shirts to women who wanted to “remember me” with them, even if they do get a bit niffy after a while. Now it is nice that the pheros do linger a bit longer here but when the replacements mount-up to several hundred quid, then - no!

Cleaning/buildup is less of an issue on skin than it is with clothing TBH - If you pay your app points proper attention in daily washing and reduce your none/A1 doses son subsequent days, then you can go several days before buildup is a problem and I’ve done entire and decidedly crusty festivals with minimal washing and still had good results.

Smell is not altogether a bad thing - many women find “healthy sweat” a fantastic turn-on - so just don’t end-up smelling stale! 🙂

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**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/5 "2012-06-02T09:51:06Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Clothes application can be useful but I wouldn’t rely on it for my main phero use for most of the reasons Tisha gives.
> 
> Different fibers have differing absorption/diffusion properties and yes, the trapped pheros can stink and need considerable washing to remove. Some of the more subtle/steering pheros also seem to lose their effectiveness compared to the bore basic signals.
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> Effective doses on clothing tend to be far higher and at my age, that can mean considerable extra cost in pheros too. Even pheros that claim to be “designed” for clothes application like Alter Ego can be used far better and more efficiently with skin application.
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> Lastly, I have “lost” too many good expensive dress shirts to women who wanted to “remember me” with them, even if they do get a bit niffy after a while. Now it is nice that the pheros do linger a bit longer here but when the replacements mount-up to several hundred quid, then - no!
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> Cleaning/buildup is less of an issue on skin than it is with clothing TBH - If you pay your app points proper attention in daily washing and reduce your none/A1 doses son subsequent days, then you can go several days before buildup is a problem and I’ve done entire and decidedly crusty festivals with minimal washing and still had good results.
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> Smell is not altogether a bad thing - many women find “healthy sweat” a fantastic turn-on - so just don’t end-up smelling stale! 🙂

How do you hadle it if it is hot and muggy summer and you want to apply Nols/A1. Do you have no apprehension that it converts into another one onto your skin?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/6 "2012-06-02T10:10:09Z")

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Not a great problem - I adjust my topups to suit - eg less none or add extra moderation or I will simply go and freshen-up/wash and reapply from scratch. If you are escalating a situation/potential partner, the increase in none will hopefully complement the attraction created in other ways by your behaviour.

Some of the most passionate/adventurous/physically damaging sex I’ve ever had has been at the end of a 2-3-4 day phero stack-up with a partner. By then Its usually a case of them saying something like “I know we’ve been pretty wild all weekend but I really want to go NOW and do things - y’know!”

I’ve also commented before that Sporty in particular used to often end-up putting-on my shirt during sex, then she would sleep wearing it and insist I wear it unwashed out with her the next day - wher she would take plenty of rather indiscreet “sniffs” or nuzzle her head into my chest throughout the day. She would then keep the shirt unwashed in her bed for the next week or two and I knew we would be in for another passionate stint when she would produce it, washed ironed and ready to wear on a Friday night - Time for a topup! 😃

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**Author:** ![pherospider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@pherospider](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherospider)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/7 "2012-06-02T10:32:42Z")

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Although , mobo and tisha made their point , its diffusion decreasees … but if and only if you hav heavy sweating issues , u can apply 2 sprays to your handkerchief, i worked for me ,  
everytime i takeout my handkerchief mones goes into the air , and all eyes on me ..😉

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 10:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/8 "2012-06-02T10:37:56Z")

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Is your hankie linen? I reckon that would have reasonable diffusion as it is not nearly as absorbent as cotton?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-on-clothes-vs-skin-less-diffusion-and-will-the-clothes-start-to-smell/55746/9 "2012-06-02T10:50:23Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Is your hankie linen? I reckon that would have reasonable diffusion as it is not nearly as absorbent as cotton?

Hmm yes but it lacks ther heat to diffuse effectively and steadily. You need a steady signal to give them time to process and pinpoint.

By the way I love men who say “Reckon” it makes me hot LOL 😛

Tisha