# Pheromones seem expensive: how do you justify 50 bucks for a bottle of AMMO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [June 21, 2007, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248 "2007-06-21T08:08:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gingercool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gingercool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gingercool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/1 "2007-06-21T08:08:15Z")
Hey everyone and Jasmin Ive been reading all about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), and have been researching about them for a bout a month now. Now is it just me or pheromones are EXPENSIVE !!! 50 bucks for a bottle of AMMO seems kinda overpaying? How do you all justify the costs? I have very limited amount of money , which one should i go with to see a Gauranteed effect so that i do not get discouraged away from pheromones? THanks, Great website Jasmin. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/2 "2007-06-22T02:04:23Z")
Try the smaller to-go bottles first. They’re quite a bit less expensive, but they contain less product. If you think the product is worth the price you can buy a bigger bottle later and the small bottle will still be very handy for touch-ups when you go out. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is generally considered a good starting product for a younger guy. ---
**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/3 "2007-06-22T10:14:39Z")
I thought that at first, but then I remembered that I have paid £50 (that’s about $90-ish) for 30mls of designer perfume in the past, and if something doesn’t from here doesn’t work for you. It can be returned. Try doing that with a bottle of eau-de-extortortionate designer pong you have second thoughts about 🙂 May ---
**Author:** ![gingercool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gingercool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gingercool)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/4 "2007-06-22T19:22:36Z")
It can be returned? Wow How does that work ? Haha 90ish for perfume…well actually that is ok in todays “branded” world. I use Old Spice which was about 30 bucks. Although it dosnt show results as talked about from pheromones, but it gets the occasion .. hey smell nice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/5 "2007-06-22T19:49:36Z")
how the return policy works? you can read about it here: [Double Your Money Back Guarantee](https://a314.com/) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/6 "2007-06-22T21:40:18Z")
Not really if you look on the web most products cost around the same as here. Athena is like $90 and Beaches runs around $40 The prices for full bottles over at Love scent run around $30 to $60 depending on what you get. At least here you can get to-go bottles to try to see if you like the product first. Also if your short on cash the to-go bottle are great till you can save up for a large bottle. The points program really helps as well. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/7 "2007-06-23T00:32:02Z")
I always thought Androtics was pretty inexpensive compared to other brands I found on the internet. Most of the other [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) were around $90. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/8 "2007-06-23T00:52:53Z")
mcg per mcg, Androtics are expensive compared to other pheromone sellers, a full strength product over at LS will cost you between 30-60usd (npa 29, 59 alpha7), a full strength product here that compares in strength to the other sites products, your paying around 80usd minimum regular strength products like ammo are just too weak to do anything, you would have to bath yourself in the stuff and use half the bottle in a single application just to see a pheromone effect i dont know if some forum members realise this, but alot of members look at the pheromone concentration of Androtics or lack of it, and decide to buy elsewhere where the products are more concentrated ive read that Androtics defend the lower concentration as a dosed [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/), but realistically and economically, you get a better bang for your buck when the concentration is high and the price is reasonable i personally would like to see Androtics products become very concentrated at a competitive price ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/9 "2007-06-23T00:58:03Z")
> [@tomboy05](#): > > I always thought Androtics was pretty inexpensive compared to other brands I found on the internet. Most of the other pheromone products were around $90. most of the other [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) brands, at least the reputable ones i know are around 60-70 bucks tops for thier most concentrated products, and i mean very concentrated! ---
**Author:** ![Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Marc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marc)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/10 "2007-06-23T01:12:20Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > mcg per mcg, Androtics are expensive compared to other pheromone sellers, a full strength product over at LS will cost you between 30-60usd (npa 29, 59 alpha7) I’d be interested to hear your experiences with Alpha 7, Bronzie. Having popped over to LS it seems as though it gets some useful results. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/11 "2007-06-23T01:29:51Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > mcg per mcg, Androtics are expensive compared to other pheromone sellers, a full strength product over at LS will cost you between 30-60usd (npa 29, 59 alpha7), a full strength product here that compares in strength to the other sites products, your paying around 80usd minimum Raw Power is 5.4 mg for 59, which is almost the same as alpha7 (5 mg of -none, total 6 mg of pheromones). NPA is the only one which has everyone beat in terms of keeping the price low while maintaining top notch quality but the production of raw materials is definitely much cheaper in South Africa where Lacroy is based. Most common phero products use very low quality pheromones (KZI, Lacroy being exceptions) imported from third world countries. Look at the number of recent complaints for Primal Instinct at l-s. > [@bronzie](#): > > regular strength products like ammo are just too weak to do anything, you would have to bath yourself in the stuff and use half the bottle in a single application just to see a pheromone effect > > i dont know if some forum members realise this, but alot of members look at the pheromone concentration of Androtics or lack of it, and decide to buy elsewhere where the products are more concentrated > > ive read that Androtics defend the lower concentration as a dosed pheromone product, but realistically and economically, you get a better bang for your buck when the concentration is high and the price is reasonable > > i personally would like to see Androtics products become very concentrated at a competitive price I am sorry I have to disagree with you about Ammo. I can use a reasonable amount of -none but two sprays of Ammo is OD land for me (with just 2.5 mcg of -none per spray and being very well balanced with other friendly pheromones). And Turn Up The Heat, same deal, it hits hard even at that concentration.I think it’s the diffusion and the quality of pheromones. The time and money Androtics has spent for R&D of these effective diffusion packages has to reflect in the product prices. There are lots of lies on the internet and novice users are easy to dupe. Anyone can falsely claim the concentration and quality of pheros. An average user will not be able to verify their claims even by the reactions since high concentration doesn’t always translate to more obvious reactions. I think here we atleast get what we pay for. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/12 "2007-07-01T22:27:44Z")
> [@nibbla](#): > > I’d be interested to hear your experiences with Alpha 7, Bronzie. Having popped over to LS it seems as though it gets some useful results. Well nibbla, I give it the thumbs up, after reading your reply about a week ago, I thought id give Alpha 7 some air time this week, last night I used 1 drop of Alpha 7 and went down to my local cafe spot, where I met some friends and sat around a table, one girl in the group, a cute blonde, early 20s was a stranger to me and we just meet, well within 10 minutes of conversation, she started to play footsies with my foot, I mean Overt leg and foot touching, and it was a conscious effort on her part because she would smile and even winked at one point while doing it. I believe this is called a hit. I applied 12 in SOE, 1 drop Alpha 7. I got her phone number pretty easily after that, as you would imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Marc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marc)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-expensive-how-do-you-justify-50-bucks-for-a-bottle-of-ammo/4248/13 "2007-07-02T14:14:02Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > Well nibbla, I give it the thumbs up, after reading your reply about a week ago, I thought id give Alpha 7 some air time this week, last night I used 1 drop of Alpha 7 and went down to my local cafe spot, where I met some friends and sat around a table, one girl in the group, a cute blonde, early 20s was a stranger to me and we just meet, well within 10 minutes of conversation, she started to play footsies with my foot, I mean Overt leg and foot touching, and it was a conscious effort on her part because she would smile and even winked at one point while doing it. I believe this is called a hit. I applied 12 in Scent of Eros, 1 drop Alpha 7. I got her phone number pretty easily after that, as you would imagine. Coincidentally, I bought some scented A7 yesterday. You’ve obviously had a great result with yours and with only one drop! Have you got scented or unscented? I’m imagining that the scented one is somewhat like the smell of Turn Up The Heat. I’m looking forward to testing it out.