# Pheromones seem to survive soap and water: what do you use to wash them off? **URL:** \ **Category:** Best of PheroTalk\ **Created:** [February 7, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562 "2007-02-07T02:53:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scott99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scott99](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scott99)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/1 "2007-02-07T02:53:52Z")
**You may view and post in the original thread here:** [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/american-soaps-that-wash-off-pheromones/1931](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/american-soaps-that-wash-off-pheromones/1931) I’ve been reading on his forum that [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) seem to stay wherever you spray them, even if you try to wash it off with soap and water. Just wondering what you guys and gals use to wash it off. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/2 "2007-02-07T03:08:12Z")
Nioxin shampoo for your hair (plus you won’t go bald! hehe). I have a paul mitchell system paul mitchell Botanical prep shampoo botanical hydrating shampoo botanical body-building rinse It pulls impurities out of your hair (chlorine, dht, pheromones, ect.) As for your skin. Who knows… If your worried about build up just scrub that area thoroughly and skip a day or more of phero aplication. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/3 "2007-02-07T03:45:57Z")
> [@Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/2): > > botanical body-building rinse Toil do you think if I use that on my arms I can stop weight lifting? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/4 "2007-02-07T03:50:35Z")
> [@Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/3): > > Toil do you think if I use that on my arms I can stop weight lifting? What?!?!?!? BRILLIANT! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/5 "2007-02-07T04:04:06Z")
I actually use one of those scrubby things tied to the stick. They sell them at Wally World (Wal Mart). It’s a good idea to use something corse that helps remove any dead skin cells. Try to soap and rinse twice and use some elbow grease. Please don’t rip your skin off though, that might hurt. I’m not sure how long the pheromones stay with you, but I believe they may stay for at least a day or two. Especially with the results I have been getting. I’m wondering if also something like baby powder or lotion would affect the application point. I always use powder, but I’m sure some people use lotion. I assume with powder it wouldn’t be as much of a problem as with lotion, unless of course it prevents your skin from absorbing it. Would anybody know? ---
**Author:** ![turrgon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@turrgon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/turrgon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/6 "2007-02-07T04:57:05Z")
id be really surprised if soap and water didnt at least reduce the chemicals a significant amount. the only thing water alone doesnt dissolve are non-polar molecules and thats what soap is for. if it really leeches into your skin exfoliating might help too. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/7 "2007-02-07T04:59:48Z")
Facial cleanser might be the best idea for application points as it is designed to exfoliate and clean. ---
**Author:** ![turrgon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@turrgon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/turrgon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/8 "2007-02-07T05:01:09Z")
> [@Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/7): > > Facial cleanser might be the best idea for application points as it is designed to exfoliate and clean. … and remove built-up oil. ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/9 "2007-02-07T05:05:46Z")
try those stridex pads… those may work… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/10 "2007-02-07T07:39:03Z")
15 minutes in the sauna does the trick for me…followed by hot shower, and a hard scrub down with a bath sponge. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/11 "2007-02-07T10:03:30Z")
> [@Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/10): > > 15 minutes in the sauna does the trick for me…followed by hot shower, and a hard scrub down with a bath sponge. Perfect! I’d rather have a steam or sauna anyway, heh! MHarris once commented that Nioxin or other “polysorbate based hair cleaners” (also “other polyscorbate based hair conditioners”) will work to remove sticky pheros. > [@](#): > > Anything that contains polysorbates is proven to very effective at moving hormonal and pheromonal traces But he also cautions about disturbing your natural bacterial culture on your skin with too much soap, and advocates rinsing, except for spot cleaning with Nioxin/etc. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/12 "2007-02-10T22:34:54Z")
> [@Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/9): > > try those stridex pads… those may work… 😃 Or Brillo pads… 😛