# Pheromones seem to survive soap and water: what do you use to wash them off?

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**Created:** [February 7, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562 "2007-02-07T02:53:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-seem-to-survive-soap-and-water-what-do-you-use-to-wash-them-off/23562/11 "2007-02-07T10:03:30Z")

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> [@Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/10):
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> 15 minutes in the sauna does the trick for me…followed by hot shower, and a hard scrub down with a bath sponge.

Perfect! I’d rather have a steam or sauna anyway, heh!

MHarris once commented that Nioxin or other “polysorbate based hair cleaners” (also “other polyscorbate based hair conditioners”) will work to remove sticky pheros.

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> Anything that contains polysorbates is proven to very effective at moving hormonal and pheromonal traces

But he also cautions about disturbing your natural bacterial culture on your skin with too much soap, and advocates rinsing, except for spot cleaning with Nioxin/etc.

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