# Pheromones That Aid In Relaxation And Sleep ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 16, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753 "2006-10-16T02:39:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Big\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@Big\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Big_M)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/1 "2006-10-16T02:39:42Z")
Is there a particular [pheromone](https://a314.com/) that is sold here , That may help self relaxation or sleep ? maybe one of the experimental products ? ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/2 "2006-10-16T13:10:43Z")
try ,lots and lots of nol buddy šŸ™‚ thatā€™ll knock u out for sure and give u vivid dreams. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/3 "2006-10-16T13:41:54Z")
> [@nfs](#): > > try ,lots and lots of Androstenol buddy šŸ™‚ thatā€™ll knock u out for sure and give u vivid dreams. i would have said the same thing. its like i drank enough to get sleepy but not enough to feel bad.:o ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/4 "2006-10-16T23:44:54Z")
itā€™s a very expensive way to get some shut-eye though. I would just recommend some deep sleep hypnosis cds or deep sleep subliminals. They always work for me and knock my lights out. Most of them costs only $14 and u can download it online. Try [www.brainsync.com](http://www.brainsync.com) Save your androstenol for babes like LOR. NFS ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/5 "2006-10-17T00:00:14Z")
> [@nfs](#): > > itā€™s a very expensive way to get some shut-eye though. I would just recommend some deep sleep hypnosis cds or deep sleep subliminals. They always work for me and knock my lights out. Most of them costs only $14 and u can download it online. Or, you could get a bottle of the National Drink of the US\*, and have some fun along the way!šŸ™„ šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ - By act of congress, Bourbon is the United Statesā€™ ā€œNational Drinkā€ along with the bald eagle as the national bird. ---
**Author:** ![trgl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@trgl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/trgl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/6 "2006-10-17T00:03:59Z")
Yea and whatever you do never take sleeping pill. Itā€™s worse than crack. ---
**Author:** ![Marik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marik/32/1623_2.png) [@Marik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/7 "2006-10-17T10:43:48Z")
Hello, Iā€™am agree with NFS and Lor, the androstenols have some sedative effect on me. I also tried brainwaves cd.. it effectively creates a frequence following response in the brain. The binaural beat can make your brainwaves go down or go up regarding the purpose of the stuff. It take a while, itā€™s not like a medical drug. Donā€™t overdose it anyway. Marik ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/8 "2007-10-10T04:01:16Z")
What about TAF i heard thats good for insomnia ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/9 "2007-10-10T06:16:16Z")
Try MX204 or the STFU formulas in Taters journal. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/10 "2007-10-10T07:13:04Z")
nols make me perky, not sleepy. EST seems to have some relaxing properties. Nevertheless, all [pheromones](https://a314.com/) Iā€™ve tried fade with regular self-medication use. You have to keep upping the dose. Eventually youā€™ll get so tolerant of the pheromone you wonā€™t feel a thing. I find 3-mg tabs of melatonin works best for me. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/11 "2007-10-10T10:23:33Z")
ZMA seems to be a good supplement for sleeping well, too.. though you can get vivid dreams or even wet ones šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![flacowww](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/278dde/32.png) [@flacowww](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flacowww)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/12 "2014-05-07T01:27:30Z")
I just got some tac ff21 5mcg Iā€™ve had deep sleep and vivid dreams when I used it before bed. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/13 "2014-05-07T03:21:09Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I find 3-mg tabs of melatonin works best for me. My fool-proof method is melatonin and velarian used together. Hard-hitting stuff, gets the job done! ---
**Author:** ![flacowww](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/278dde/32.png) [@flacowww](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flacowww)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/14 "2014-05-07T03:31:44Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > My fool-proof method is melatonin and velarian used together. Hard-hitting stuff, gets the job done! Iā€™ve been down that road from 2.5 mcg to 10 mg Iā€™ve felt drowsy but once I change position I felt alert again. So far with tac I slept through the night though this wasnā€™t why I bought it. I was just so impatient and dabbed a lil before bed and happy accident. Iā€™m not saying this will work for everyone just saying what I encountered. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/15 "2014-05-07T03:47:02Z")
Iā€™ve tried TAC as a sleep aid, but it doesnā€™t work for me. Different chemistry, I suppose. Ryan Mercer used to say that p102 helped him sleep. I never tried it. But if I was feeling anxious, p130 has helped me sleep. When I use melatonin, it is usually between 10-15 mg, with 50-100 mg valerian. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/16 "2014-05-07T10:35:11Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > Iā€™ve tried TAC as a sleep aid, but it doesnā€™t work for me. Different chemistry, I suppose. Ryan Mercer used to say that p102 helped him sleep. I never tried it. But if I was feeling anxious, p130 has helped me sleep. > > When I use melatonin, it is usually between 10-15 mg, with 50-100 mg valerian. P102 does help me sleep - strangely in a non-drowsy way, as I donā€™t find it sedative to me, just a bit relaxing. I have 3-4 memorable dreams per night every time I use this stuff later in the day. Very vivid and interesting dreams! TAC at 10+ mcg was very drowsy to me, and would often completely knock me out. I would often be out for hours in the middle of the day, and not at times I had time for sleeping! This stuff was instant narcolepsy for me. MMDI: ā€œ1 mcg of [TA]K made me nod off reading twice, thatā€™s why I diluted it moreā€ My tried and true method for sleeping when I must, is 1-3 mg Melatonin, and a contoured sleeping mask. You need to put the mask on immediately after taking the pill, donā€™t look at any bright lights (like an iPad or your phone). If you are used to noise, a sound generator could help. Try one of those isochronic tones apps that uses nature sounds. ---
**Author:** ![flacowww](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/278dde/32.png) [@flacowww](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flacowww)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/17 "2014-05-07T11:12:54Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > Iā€™ve tried TAC as a sleep aid, but it doesnā€™t work for me. Different chemistry, I suppose. Ryan Mercer used to say that p102 helped him sleep. I never tried it. But if I was feeling anxious, p130 has helped me sleep. > > When I use melatonin, it is usually between 10-15 mg, with 50-100 mg valerian. Iā€™d be cautious with melatonin. Regular usage can effect something in womenā€™s bodyā€™s and lead to lupus especially at such high doses. And especially if thereā€™s a family history of it or immune disorders. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-that-aid-in-relaxation-and-sleep/753/18 "2014-05-07T14:59:09Z")
> [@flacowww](#): > > Iā€™d be cautious with melatonin. Regular usage can effect something in womenā€™s bodyā€™s and lead to lupus especially at such high doses. And especially if thereā€™s a family history of it or immune disorders. Thanks for the info. I do know that the body forms a tolerance to melatonin over time, so I only use it if I am really desperate. Thatā€™s why it is such a high dose, because I only use it when a lower dose just wonā€™t work.