# Pheromones VS. Game: spotting hits **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 21, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197 "2010-07-21T16:17:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Carmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Carmo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carmo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/1 "2010-07-21T16:17:58Z")
started trying the different products just over a year ago, which coinceditally is the same time I started studying game and working hard on personal improvment. My point is that its hard to distiguish certain female behavior, hits, IOI , or whatever you want to call it as being initiated by the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) or by my elevated game. Anybody else been in a smilar situation and wondered about this? ~Carmo~ ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/2 "2010-07-21T16:51:03Z")
> [@Carmo](#): > > started trying the different products just over a year ago, which coinceditally is the same time I started studying game and working hard on personal improvment. My point is that its hard to distiguish certain female behavior, hits, IOI , or whatever you want to call it as being initiated by the pheromones or by my elevated game. Anybody else been in a smilar situation and wondered about this? > ~Carmo~ Yes, i think about this all the time. I’ve had many examples…with A1…i just have the girl I’ve never met before…smell the spot where I sprayed…I ssaw instant change in behavior she was very comfortable with me…but in my past women are NEVER comfortable with me…Im always told, they don’t trust me, that I’m a player..etc." I’m funnier than most of the people you know…Im a complete goofball…BUT…A314 2 drops…walked into a group of people I never met mixed with people I did know…everyone took me seriously, even we I tried to joke…it was almost like they wouldn’t let me…and Im a comedian!!..plainly mones only hit. IH…put 4 sprays on…sat in Starbucks…i heard about 3 or 4 ppl say…“I don’t know why I just told you that”…one day during lunch one of the guys i work with, just spills the beans about being with the girl across the table..to her surprise"…soo uncomfortable to them…so funny to me 😃 … So my point is…taking myself and the normal behavior that is displayed to me when I act like such and such as a “control” point of view and parlaying that against how people act near mones as the “effect” point of view…lets me know which is which.. Now I’ve got a little bit of game in me…Ive gotten laid w/out mones maybe once a year and thats only when I’m in a show cause m a performer…but I’ts never been this easy. I’ve never did it without being shit tested and having to pass. With mones I have. I’ve never just sat back and with a few looks and “accidentl touches” get a women to connect with me like we’ve known each other for years without mones. So really its sorta a false dicotmy that you’re thinking when you put mones vs game. Mones are like an Armani suit on a lawyer…without the suit he may or may not “get the girl”…notice women looking or IOIs… but he knows when he has that $3000 suit on…all of a sudden women are looking staring…testing…and interested. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/3 "2010-07-21T21:45:21Z")
> [@Carmo](#): > > started trying the different products just over a year ago, which coinceditally is the same time I started studying game and working hard on personal improvment. My point is that its hard to distiguish certain female behavior, hits, IOI , or whatever you want to call it as being initiated by the pheromones or by my elevated game. Anybody else been in a smilar situation and wondered about this? > ~Carmo~ Yes - But in my case, I had begun to work on my negative aspects for some time before taking-up pheros. I had noticed quite an improvement before but the curve went way-up when I finally added the pheros. It was like the last piece of the jigsaw falling into place. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/4 "2010-07-27T11:27:39Z")
If the shoe fits 🙂. I’d say its a combintation of both my friend. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/5 "2010-07-27T11:45:23Z")
> [@Baldman](#): > > If the shoe fits 🙂. > > I’d say its a combintation of both my friend. Absolutely! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wiihomebrewftw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wiihomebrewftw/32/1102_2.png) [@wiihomebrewftw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiihomebrewftw)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/6 "2010-07-28T02:28:59Z")
As most [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) users tell you, mones are about 10% of the total picture. I would say looks and game are 90%. So while I love the effect that mones have, it’s still mostly gonna come down to how good your game is. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-game-spotting-hits/40197/7 "2010-07-28T11:33:21Z")
> [@wiihomebrewftw](#): > > As most pheromone users tell you, mones are about 10% of the total picture. I would say looks and game are 90%. So while I love the effect that mones have, it’s still mostly gonna come down to how good your game is. I fully agree it is certainly very important but maybe it is how I use the pheros but I have repeatedly noticed that game will only get me so far - but of course I’m still a relative beginner. But when I sense I’m getting to the right point, and finally add that phero top-up or specific last phero to the mix (eg Androstenone), and get a rapid and rampant sexual escallation from my subject (and others, good or bad) I’m inclined to think that however small, the phero’s role is a very significant key? Oh and looks can’t be that vital - I’m no great looker, although I am well turned out and physically fit. Good conversation and a reasonable dancing ability seem to be my key attributes. 🙂