# Pheroproof with other products. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 13, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108 "2007-06-13T22:26:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mikeQMH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@mikeQMH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikeQMH)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/1 "2007-06-13T22:26:46Z")
I’m thinking about trying to use Pheroproof in conjunction with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Shine, Instant Openness, and even A314 at the same time. I’m 22 years old. Any suggestions or advice. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/2 "2007-06-13T23:06:05Z")
Go for it. Everyone’s different. What works for me may not work for you. Nevertheless A314 is probably overkill–unless you’re going for the fatherly vibe–but I found PP partners well with CTTM and other androstenol products. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/3 "2007-06-13T23:23:01Z")
Gegogi, I used a314 today, unfortunantly the only vibe I got was aggression, and the smell really put me off. Im starting to believe the stuff may work mainly as a placebo, but for the placebo effect to work you need to be in the right enviroment and the right mindset anyway, kind of a catch 22 situation ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/4 "2007-06-14T00:04:29Z")
now i havnt tested A314 yet (or any other [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) for that matter, still waiting for the snail mail to deliver it =/ ), so i do not know if it works. but if you got agress, then that could be the effect, there is not enough info in your post to make an actual conclusion, but alphaness without congruency could in theory probably stirr up agressiveness in some guys (mainly those that lie betwen alpha and beta and would see you as a threat if you were to try to go from beta to alpha) again, i dont know what your normally like nor what the situations were, so its just me thinking out loud ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/5 "2007-06-14T00:43:55Z")
> [@](#): > > “…and the smell really put me off.” Yep, that would be the new age hippie scent. Hate it too. Plus, doesn’t really go with the “fatherly vibe” androsterone tends to impart. A classic “mature guy” scent like CD Fahrenheit would be more appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/6 "2007-06-14T00:48:20Z")
I daily use 1 Spray PP + 1 A314 + 2 [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), If you use little A314, PP doesn’t change its behaviour. Neither i’ve found it to change with Instant Shine. For clubbing i use a much more complicated mix, I used it with Ammo before, but IMO it works better with PP. 3 PP 4 IFM 3 A314 3 A314 4 Instant Shine ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/7 "2007-06-14T00:49:37Z")
I daily use 1 Spray PP + 1 A314 + 2 Instant Shine, If you use little A314, PP doesn’t change its behaviour. Neither i’ve found it to change with Instant Shine. For clubbing i use a much more complicated mix, I used it with Ammo before, but IMO it works better with PP. 3 PP 4 [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) 2-3 A314 4 Instant Shine ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/8 "2007-06-14T00:51:04Z")
> [@mikeQMH](#): > > I’m thinking about trying to use Pheroproof in conjunction with Instant Female Magic, Instant Shine, Instant Openness, and even A314 at the same time. > > I’m 22 years old. Any suggestions or advice. PP is a rather complete mix and needs little supplementation. I’ve used it with A314 to good effect. I often use a couple drops of A314 as a base. My A314 is the unscented mutant batch. I haven’t supplemented PP with IS, Instant Openness, or [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) because it didn’t feel like it needed it. The PP does come with extra bottles of -none and alpha Androstenol for supplementation. Alpha Androstenol is also the major component of Instant Openness. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-with-other-products/4108/9 "2007-06-14T00:55:03Z")
Although in my opinion PP is the best standalone product i’ve tested, i usually mix it. PP mixed is not PP anymore but still helps a lot in mixes… I am going to quote something I wrote some days ago in other threads : > [@](#): > > I’m glad you tweaked that mix and it worked, IMHO any mix with high -none is very well buffered (for females purpose) with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (If they’re ovulating, they will like you because of the -none, and if they’re not and are in these days, they will be relaxed with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) cancelling the -none agressiviness in these days). > > And I have realized that [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) lasts a lot more than -nols so I think is much better to buffer -none with this. Buffering with -ols always end with you carrying only -none two hours later. > > The A314 is for getting enough respect from males for not being “attacked” from them because of high -none, IMO they will, indeed, treat you more alfa-like than with A314 alone (they seem to notice you use to get the girls or something). > > I like -none effects a lot (specially in clubs or in a one-to-one-at-home) and I am always trying to cancel its bad effects. > > Now I am waiting for [p79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and try it to see if I can intensify -none effects without bad reactions with it. > > By the way, last mix I used in a club was awesome, I hope it’s not a coincidence because I ended choosing between two cute girls that clearly made a competition for getting me (I met them there for the first time). It’s a little bit strange-mix but it worked like a charm! although I have to test it some more days. Please, if you can, test the mix on clubs : > > 2xAmmo (Ols buffering -none) > 2xPheroProof (I know, strange mix xD) (Ols buffering -none + Attention) > 1xTUTH (I know, I know… but IMO it has the best -none effects (good and bad ones)) > 4xIFM (Trying to buffer if there is some unbuffered -none hours later, for controlling non-ovlulating women too) > 3xA314 (Respect from males, HDV from women(they will understand so much -none in you because of your HDV)) > 3xIS (It always round up a little) > > I noticed lots of hits and these two girls came to talk to us after 10 minutes dancing side to side. I was getting all the attention, they were a little drunk and very very talkative. Night passed, -ols passed too, and things got hotter and competitive (for them), in fact they got upset with each other. > > Please, can you give me opinions about buffering -none with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)(females)+A314(males+females)? > > Anyone tried [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)+PheroProof? > > Thank you all! > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/wink.gif](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/wink.gif) > > PD: All ages involved were between 20-30 (mine too).