# Pheroproof Works!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 21, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617 "2007-03-21T02:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/41 "2007-03-22T10:50:34Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Howdy, Futurist! 😉 > > While you’re here … Is there a big difference in MX101 and PheroProof, or did you just name MX101 PheroProof? > > Guess I’m going to have to take a peep. > > Thanks! Nope. And I know you have pmx 101, so don’t bother getting Pheromone Proof unless you need another bottle. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 10:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/42 "2007-03-22T10:56:10Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Futurist You have a great product and thats the most important thing. Business may be slow now and the web site may not be just the way you want it but give it time and you will see results even with the cheesy website LOL (sorry). I think your website just may not appeal to the experienced pheromone user because we have tried alot of products from similar sites before finding smartmones. But there is a whole world of newbies out there so dont give up. > > I dont know much about web advertising but remember that “word of mouth” can really bring in business. Once people use your product and see it works they will mention it to friends. It may take a little longer for that to happen with guys products because guys are more tight lipped about these things but it will happen. Hell I have already sent about 5 people over to smartmones that never even knew what a pheromone was. Just look at the posts from Ail about MMU and love potion they almost caused a stampied and alot of us ordered from them. In time the money will start coming in and then you can make the web site just the way you want it. > > Best of luck > > Tisha Thank you! Well, thankfully I am very happy with my main career so there’s no pressure. I just know I have something good so I might as well put it out there and try to make money. I always kind of resented how there were manufacturers making lots of money even though you know they never even experimented with pheromones, and then there were us hardcore experimenters out there, pounding the pavement sort of speak to innovate, and not getting compensated. ---
**Author:** ![rtype6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rtype6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtype6)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/43 "2007-03-22T12:07:54Z")
Once you have your site fixed up with what I PM’ed you, we’ll get into how to promote it without spending a dime. Are you good in front of a camera? You can tape video with someones digital camera and… - Explain many [Pheromones products](https://a314.com/shop/) are scams and all the work you’ve gone into creating yours. - Get a “trusted” source to interview you about your product - How to apply your amazing formula etc. And once this video is done, upload it on Youtube and use keywords which relate to your product “attract women, pheromones. etc.” I used Youtube for one of my sites and it brought in 10,000 targeted visitors in a week. I have more ideas but we’ll save that for later. EDIT: I forgot to add, use a program like “Microsoft Movie Maker (which comes with Windows)” to add text to the entire video. As people watch the video, they SHOULD see text on the bottom showing your web address. Also, add the video to your website cause if you watch other YouTube videos, you’ll see underneath there’s a “Links” link which shows all the sites that link to the video. Your site will appear there and Search Engines will see this and give you extra points in the rankings. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/44 "2007-03-22T12:16:37Z")
Holy crap what a great idea Youtube rocks!!! Tisha 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rtype6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rtype6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtype6)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/45 "2007-03-22T12:17:32Z")
Thank You! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/46 "2007-03-22T12:36:02Z")
I love it. New-age on-line guerilla marketing. This is great. I should really get word about your product out there. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/47 "2007-03-22T13:00:06Z")
> [@rtype6](#): > > Once you have your site fixed up with what I PM’ed you, we’ll get into how to promote it without spending a dime. > > Are you good in front of a camera? You can tape video with someones digital camera and… > > - Explain many Pheromones products are scams and all the work you’ve gone into creating yours. > - Get a “trusted” source to interview you about your product > - How to apply your amazing formula > etc. > > And once this video is done, upload it on Youtube and use keywords which relate to your product “attract women, pheromones. etc.” > > I used Youtube for one of my sites and it brought in 10,000 targeted visitors in a week. > > I have more ideas but we’ll save that for later. > > EDIT: I forgot to add, use a program like “Microsoft Movie Maker (which comes with Windows)” to add text to the entire video. As people watch the video, they SHOULD see text on the bottom showing your web address. > > Also, add the video to your website cause if you watch other YouTube videos, you’ll see underneath there’s a “Links” link which shows all the sites that link to the video. Your site will appear there and Search Engines will see this and give you extra points in the rankings. Hi rtype, I’ve actually used youtube to drive traffic before! There’s a difference between getting traffic and converting that into sales, however.😉 Plus, youtube videos can require some promoting of their own to get views, depending on the content. I never got your PM… wonder if it didn’t go through. Thanks to everyone who has posted words of encouragement on this forum or through PM. I did not expect that. 🙂 However, I don’t want people to worry too much about my problem. Instead, I’d rather the focus be on what can I do for you, and whether my product is a good one. The performance of the product has always been everything to me. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/48 "2007-03-22T13:56:57Z")
Okay, I have to say this. This is not a product which only newbies can appreciate. Read Michael’s comments in the PMX101 thread. Hell, read the comments of all those who took part in the beta test. Almost all the users selected for beta testing had more than a year or even more of experience. The responses were good enough to impress the most hardened users. The price is a little steep, granted but I think it is definitely worth a shot. Look at posts of Examine, Pheroquirk, Visionary, Homura83 etc and you will notice that they are big users of PMX101 and report very strong hits with it. Check out my blog for my hits with this product. I remember there was a post mentioning pheroproof a long while back back when the site started and the thread became inaccessible. I didn’t enquire further but assumed the creator didn’t want it to be advertised yet. If that was not the case this would be my first recommendation to any user who is looking for strong sexual hits in any social pickup situation. ---
**Author:** ![rtype6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rtype6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtype6)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/49 "2007-03-22T14:15:13Z")
With Youtube, using targeted keywords gives better chances Ex. Instead of Pheromones (general keyword which could relate to many products), use your product name. But it’s always good to post as many relating keywords. Also, other sites may post your video on their site if it’s good enough and is something they want/need. Even more traffic for you! Darn, I typed you a very long message too. I’ll try to break it down into a shorter version. Your headline doesn’t create fear. Lots of successful sellers put fear into their headlines. It gets the readers curious & they’ll want to read the sales pitch. For your sales letter, follow this formula. Attention - Grab their attention Pain - Create pain (Mention about how many other [pheromones products](https://a314.com/shop/) are scams. People buy and end with the result of money wasted. Even give a story of you buying so many of them wasting your hard earned money and had no results.) Solution - Mention that you were so fed up that you wanted to see if Pheromones really do work. You wasted so many days/weeks mixing products together and testing them out each night and took note of the results. About 6 months later you finally came up with an amazing formula which works. (Create something like that. Also, you may want to include a picture/graph of your testing. The biggest bar on the graph will be of the mix you’re selling. Make the bar much much higher than the other “mixes”) Urgency - Mention something about for the next 100 shoppers, I’ll throw in \ for FREE. Action - You better hurry before the special ends. (or) You better hurry before your guy friends get this formula and steal all the women! Just remember that people buy through emotions. Your current sales pitch doesn’t demonstrate any of that. Rewrite your entire letter. Does that help? ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/50 "2007-03-22T23:27:28Z")
> [@rtype6](#): > > With Youtube, using targeted keywords gives better chances > > Ex. Instead of Pheromones (general keyword which could relate to many products), use your product name. But it’s always good to post as many relating keywords. Also, other sites may post your video on their site if it’s good enough and is something they want/need. Even more traffic for you! > > Darn, I typed you a very long message too. I’ll try to break it down into a shorter version. > > Your headline doesn’t create fear. Lots of successful sellers put fear into their headlines. It gets the readers curious & they’ll want to read the sales pitch. > > For your sales letter, follow this formula. > Attention - Grab their attention > Pain - Create pain (Mention about how many other pheromones products are scams. People buy and end with the result of money wasted. Even give a story of you buying so many of them wasting your hard earned money and had no results.) > Solution - Mention that you were so fed up that you wanted to see if Pheromones really do work. You wasted so many days/weeks mixing products together and testing them out each night and took note of the results. About 6 months later you finally came up with an amazing formula which works. (Create something like that. Also, you may want to include a picture/graph of your testing. The biggest bar on the graph will be of the mix you’re selling. Make the bar much much higher than the other “mixes”) > Urgency - Mention something about for the next 100 shoppers, I’ll throw in \ for FREE. > Action - You better hurry before the special ends. (or) You better hurry before your guy friends get this formula and steal all the women! > > Just remember that people buy through emotions. Your current sales pitch doesn’t demonstrate any of that. > > Rewrite your entire letter. > > Does that help? the pm came late for some reason, and now it is appearing. i appreciate the advice, and will respond to your pm. 🙂 to Nbully, I appreciate to the positive comments. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/51 "2007-03-26T21:40:15Z")
Arrrggghhhh! I forgot all about 101! I was set to order some way back when before the financial poo hit my fan and I had to forget about “luxury” purchases for a while. Good to know it’s out there and avaialble. Will have to budget for some. (Hey! how about a “mini-mone” size…?) ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/52 "2007-03-26T22:27:17Z")
i thought it was sorta funny to see one of my reports on there. I didnt know my name was Kyle from Penn State LOL not that i care, but i chuckled ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/53 "2007-03-26T22:28:54Z")
btw. if you try this product, DO NOT wear it every day. I had the worst OD ever. It’s defo night wear. You can wear it for 3-4 days, but once you OD, you OD hard! ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/54 "2007-03-27T00:55:28Z")
I want to say a word that begins with D and rhymes with ham. But I can’t bring myself to do it. Never mind. The point is, this product and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) exist in the same universe! 😮 😃 😃 I’m glad to be alive! And that I’m getting some money back from my tax refund, know what I mean? 😛 😛 😛 Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/55 "2007-03-27T03:18:30Z")
> [@examine](#): > > i thought it was sorta funny to see one of my reports on there. > > I didnt know my name was Kyle from Penn State LOL > > not that i care, but i chuckled Hey examine… as I say on the website before the testimonial section, all the names are changed to protect people’s privacy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/56 "2007-03-27T03:22:44Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Arrrggghhhh! I forgot all about 101! > > I was set to order some way back when before the financial poo hit my fan and I had to forget about “luxury” purchases for a while. > > Good to know it’s out there and avaialble. Will have to budget for some. > > (Hey! how about a “mini-pheromone” size…?) I am sorry it is so friggin pricey…i definitely, definitely, definitely sympathize with that. The only was for me to make it cheaper would be to make a product that doesn’t perform the same or nearly as well. It’d be totally different. Sorry, it’s just costly to produce. If I sold half sizes, it just wouldn’t work out for me financially either. If we ever get returns though I certainly would like to make them available at a reduced cost to people on the forum. I’ll keep you in mind in such an event. thanks. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/57 "2007-03-27T15:46:33Z")
> [@examine](#): > > btw. if you try this product, DO NOT wear it every day. I had the worst OD ever. It’s defo night wear. You can wear it for 3-4 days, but once you OD, you OD hard! examine, can you please give us some info on your OD so we know what to look out for? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![theslyone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@theslyone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theslyone)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/58 "2007-03-27T22:19:09Z")
was about to asked the samething. hahahha ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/59 "2007-03-27T23:43:11Z")
At one spray, it should be fine to wear during the day. I just wouldn’t do it everyday without taking a break. But it’s safe for work at one spray. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617/60 "2007-03-28T05:45:53Z")
> [@steveo](#): > > examine, can you please give us some info on your OD so we know what to look out for? > > Thanks its like heavy high quality androstenone one spray may do the trick, but you HAVE to take a break. thats why i said no more than 3-4 days straight. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617.md?page=4)