# Pheros at the Beginning of a Relationship **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 29, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371 "2009-05-29T04:05:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371/1 "2009-05-29T04:05:47Z")
I am currently dating someone, and have exposed him to nearly every phero I have in my arsenal. He does not know that I wear pheros as of yet. He will in the future though, no question. He has made some comments regarding my “energy” or “vibe,” and how cool I am, or how “indescribable” the vibe/energy I have is. When we first met, I was COVERED in cops & IS/a. I also had [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and P87 on, in addition to CTTM. That was during a professional function. We met socially and I wore: TAH MX135 P74 P86 Betanol cops I discovered that he must have been highly attracted to the TAL in IS/a, as he was moderately to severely disinterested in my while the TAH/MX15 vibe was strong. His interpersonal behavioral actions early on in the evening seemed to indicate disinterest. However, the very next day, he described my “vibe” as “indescribable energy.” I wore no pheros the next date. It went very well. We connected and chatted at length. For the next and subsequent dates, I wore: IS/a EST P86 cops mixed in @ various times with: I/Openness P74 Mx135 Wearing I/Openness seemed to cause him to “blank.” He became fidgety, nervous, not-talkative. He pretended to wrestle me and punch me. He was less verbally interactive, but more physically - reached out to me with his body language. P74 had no discernible outward change in behavior. MX135 worn _to the hair_ decreased the cloying chocolate smell. Others responded quite favorably. I was the “star.” I was attractive to multiple people. I believe that _this,_ much more so than the pheros itself, worked that evening on my date. He seemed to be very interactive with me - chatting, laughing, joking, but we were in a highly public place, and I was _clearly_ with him. The energy and vibes of the people around me being attracted to my signal combined with our combined excitement for each other seemed to have an effect. He was less “disinterested” in the TAH than last time. Wearing IS/a, P86, EST, Cops around him has been an exceptional mix. The TAL in IS/a speaks to him - he desires a strong, commanding, resourceful, partnering female presence. Not a woman to care for - a woman to partner with. TAL accents that already dominant feature in me, sharpening it. P86 is a synthesis of warmth and comfort, happiness and glow. It’s a beautiful addition to my mixes, and the one phero guaranteed to make me _feel_ utterly joyful. MUCH more so than Shine. P86 and EST have a _real_ affinity for one another. P86 and Betanol do as well. Wearing P86 and EST, without cops, produced emotionally passionate physicality, with the addition of sensitive touches, emotional bonding and connection. I was surprised at the physical passion that was present, at the same level as when cops are worn, but this time without. * * * He’s certainly been exposed to a whirlwind of pheros, without much continuity between mixes. The TAL and IS/a have become staples, as has the EST and P86. Thus, the continuous “vibe” he should be receiving from me is one of tenderness, care, concern, emotional happiness and depth, and a strong, partnering woman who engenders all of these emotional states. Hopefully I didn’t throw him too far off with the crazy mixes that didn’t work. 😮 There was a post in the mens section regarding how pheros to do not _create_ relationships - they do not _make_ the other individual feel what they cannot/do not feel for you. The enhance and bring out that which they already feel or can feel for you. The best point that I liked about that thread was that someone said that pheros can _speed up_ a relationship. I agree - I have fallen _hard_ for this man. He seems to have fallen likewise. While we are in a somewhat sticky situation (work-wise, timing wise, life-wise), our relationship is required to be very, very slow in progressing any further. Nonetheless - I believe that the pheros worn around this man, specifically for me P86 and betanol, and for him, EST and P86, have supported and drawn out emotions and experiences that have helped to create an enduring and powerful emotional bond between us. The foundation has been laid for a truly great friendship and relationship. Yeah! Go Androtics! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371/2 "2009-05-29T04:40:51Z")
Dear Ms. Tigerlilly, I wore [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) when first encountering my now wife. When I told her about them she had an “aha” moment and flashed on why she liked to nuzzle certain spots. It didn’t hurt our relationship and she accepted and participated in my pheromone esperiments. We love each other deeply. The pheromones provide initial interest, but there is something far beyond that with us. It endures even when I am not wearing or experimenting with any pheromones. I hope you find the same intimacy. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371/3 "2009-05-29T05:06:34Z")
I hope for and anticipate the exact same thing. May I be as blessed as you and yours. Thank you VERY much, GWTW. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371/4 "2009-05-30T18:50:47Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > I am currently dating someone, and have exposed him to nearly every phero I have in my arsenal. He does not know that I wear pheros as of yet. He will in the future though, no question. > > He has made some comments regarding my “energy” or “vibe,” and how cool I am, or how “indescribable” the vibe/energy I have is. > … > I wore no pheros the next date. It went very well. We connected and chatted at length. Now there is an interesting part. It took some nerve to go in there naked. What were you thinking? Reminds me that lately I’ve been thinking about residual hits. Is it a now conditioned response from our target? Couldn’t be in this case with such short exposure. Are we conditioned by self effect to project that congruency? Or is there really a physical or environmental residual? > [@Tigerlilly](#): > > … > MX135 worn _to the hair_ decreased the cloying chocolate smell. Others responded quite favorably. I was the “star.” I was attractive to multiple people. I believe that _this,_ much more so than the pheros itself, worked that evening on my date. He seemed to be very interactive with me - chatting, laughing, joking, but we were in a highly public place, and I was _clearly_ with him. The energy and vibes of the people around me being attracted to my signal combined with our combined excitement for each other seemed to have an effect. He was less “disinterested” in the TAH than last time. > > Wearing IS/a, P86, EST, Cops around him has been an exceptional mix. The TAL in IS/a speaks to him - he desires a strong, commanding, resourceful, partnering female presence. Not a woman to care for - a woman to partner with. TAL accents that already dominant feature in me, sharpening it. P86 is a synthesis of warmth and comfort, happiness and glow. It’s a beautiful addition to my mixes, and the one phero guaranteed to make me _feel_ utterly joyful. MUCH more so than Shine. Ohhh, I remember how that feels. When I met my wife and the first several years of our marriage, she was a television personality. At social functions it was a joy to watch her ‘work the room’. Wherever we went heads turned and there were always whispers. The fact that she was stunningly beautiful (my totally objective assesment) or our age difference (17 years) was not the only reason. I realize now that we both just _reeked_ of sex. Pretty much all the time! You might find that you can back off on the cops in social situations. Your natural production is probably increasing! > [@Tigerlilly](#): > > P86 and EST have a _real_ affinity for one another. > P86 and Betanol do as well. > > Wearing P86 and EST, without cops, produced emotionally passionate physicality, with the addition of sensitive touches, emotional bonding and connection. I was surprised at the physical passion that was present, at the same level as when cops are worn, but this time without. Think organic. LOL > [@Tigerlilly](#): > > He’s certainly been exposed to a whirlwind of pheros, without much continuity between mixes. The TAL and IS/a have become staples, as has the EST and P86. Thus, the continuous “vibe” he should be receiving from me is one of tenderness, care, concern, emotional happiness and depth, and a strong, partnering woman who engenders all of these emotional states. Hopefully I didn’t throw him too far off with the crazy mixes that didn’t work. 😮 > > There was a post in the mens section regarding how pheros to do not _create_ relationships - they do not _make_ the other individual feel what they cannot/do not feel for you. The enhance and bring out that which they already feel or can feel for you. The best point that I liked about that thread was that someone said that pheros can _speed up_ a relationship. > > I agree - I have fallen _hard_ for this man. He seems to have fallen likewise. While we are in a somewhat sticky situation (work-wise, timing wise, life-wise), our relationship is required to be very, very slow in progressing any further. > > Nonetheless - I believe that the pheros worn around this man, specifically for me P86 and betanol, and for him, EST and P86, have supported and drawn out emotions and experiences that have helped to create an enduring and powerful emotional bond between us. The foundation has been laid for a truly great friendship and relationship. > > Yeah! Go Androtics! 😃 _ **Congratulations!** _ I am happy for your great good fortune in finding a real romance. May it continue for all your days. May the wind be at your back, OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371/5 "2009-05-30T20:42:24Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Now there is an interesting part. It took some nerve to go in there naked. What were you thinking? Reminds me that lately I’ve been thinking about residual hits. Is it a now conditioned response from our target? Couldn’t be in this case with such short exposure. Are we conditioned by self effect to project that congruency? Or is there really a physical or environmental residual? I have thought _at length_ about this as well. I hope Diane checks in here, because she has LOTS of experience with EST. I wear EST around him, and in her experience, her husbands reactions to her remained in the EST “frame” long after she ceased wearing the EST. Then they switched back, like a finger snap, one day. She raced to put the EST back on, and he was back to EST-frame of behaviors. Her viewpoint was that some of these compounds and molecules set of chemical cascades that really do effect a new “frame,” either in the target or the wearer, or both. I know I have experienced a very similar thing with TAH. My question to her as well is this - does the EST frame get “locked on” to the wearer, or is the EST frame of the target now dispersed to ALL that he encounters? It actually wasn’t _nerve._ It was lack of preparations. 😉 I was hiking near his area w/out pheros and w/out my phero bag. We met for drinks afterwards, me all sweaty and smelly and him fresh from a day of homework (thesis program, grad school). In all honesty, we had a _great_ time. That was the 2nd time we saw each other socially, and it was fabulous. We both really connected, talked about great stuff, had a blast. Held hands, touched innocently, talked about life, love, freedom, truth and justice, etc. Really, a great, great time. If you’re interested, the whole saga starts in my journal round about page 11 or 12. I refer to him (early on) as the Gay One (dont ask - _really._ :o ), or the Most Confusing Gay-Straight Man, or Medic McRainbow Abs. Then he switches to Texas McBlues… once I cleared up that “gay” thing… 😉 But I am now thinking of going phero naked again, and seeing what happens. > [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Ohhh, I remember how that feels. When I met my wife and the first several years of our marriage, she was a television personality. At social functions it was a joy to watch her ‘work the room’. Wherever we went heads turned and there were always whispers. The fact that she was stunningly beautiful (my totally objective assesment) or our age difference (17 years) was not the only reason. I realize now that we both just _reeked_ of sex. Pretty much all the time! You might find that you can back off on the cops in social situations. Your natural production is probably increasing! Funny you should mention several of those things… 😉 There is an age difference. I am younger - by about the same margin. I have indeed stopped wearing cops around him. It can, and does, drive him insane - it also gets him totally focused on the application point of the cops. But yeah… I am totally sure that my own are, erm, in effect at the moment. 😉 > [@OoohYahhh](#): > > _ **Congratulations!** _ > > I am happy for your great good fortune in finding a real romance. May it continue for all your days. Thanks again - truly. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-at-the-beginning-of-a-relationship/29371/6 "2009-05-30T21:10:30Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Her viewpoint was that some of these compounds and molecules set of chemical cascades that really do effect a new “frame,” either in the target or the wearer, or both. I know I have experienced a very similar thing with TAH. > > My question to her as well is this - does the EST frame get “locked on” to the wearer, or is the EST frame of the target now dispersed to ALL that he encounters? We discussed that in one of my threads someplace - I think the Instant [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) & A314 thread. I rotate between IG, A314/IH and somewhat Ammo (neroli scented) as my base. I do so about every week to 10 days or so. What I found was that over time the way people reacted to me became a combination of all three. It did not matter which product I was wearing at the time. A314 gives you the alpha leader vibe. IG gives off the peaceful, dependable “Man” vibe. Even if I am wearing IG that day I am told I have a dominant (A314) personality - sometimes by an irritated team leader … lol. When I am wearing A314 I am told I am Mr. Dependable. People come to me for solutions, fixes, answers. Even if it is not my field. They spill their guts out to me when I am not wearing IH. And do so even more when I am. I think that once you “set” yourself in peoples’ minds - through actions and pheros - that even on those days you are not wearing them they still think of you the same. Can that wear off in the long term if you were to completely stop wearing pheros? Maybe - it looks like it sorta did with Dianne’s husband. Or maybe it is a little too easy to get into a rut … I don’t know. But I think that if you look at it as the pheros enhancing or revving up your signature, then on those days you do not wear pheros, people still think of you the same, you just do not come across as strongly. Sorry this got so verbose. And I have not had a whiff of beta-nols all day … lol.