# Pheros in Asian (Indian) subcontinent. A great begining! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 10, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114 "2013-02-10T01:02:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/1 "2013-02-10T01:02:58Z")
Ok, So after a month of mones usage and having to play around with them, I think I am getting to know a little bit about them. First time I used mones was in last month so I don’t know if I have any authority to write, but as promised to SteveO, will be reporting on all that I have. 🙂 Frankly, I was not confident about how the mones would work in this part of world (Indian Subcontinent). After 1 month of usage, I have concluded that they _work_ - but not in the way mentioned in most of the threads here. Partially due to cultural differences and partially due to climate issues (and may be - skin/hair color). Some of them work very much in my favor while some are scary 😠 Also, since I am totally new, there may be something wrong with my application too. Would love to hear about feedback from experienced phero users here. I tried following products (10 products): **A314b, P130, [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), P83, IS, IH, IO, Molecule K and TUTH.** All the products were used in Daytime. For quick info, first I would jot down summaries of my experiences with using these mones - individually and with mixes. This would help those who don’t want to get into details of journal entries. Later I’ll continue with the journal mentioning the dosage, application points, and other details. So here is the Quick Summary\*\*: 1. P130\*\* Felt calm after first usage. But there was a feeling of being detached. As if from a distance I was observing myself. Overall feeling better about myself and was in jolly mood. However, after subsequent usages, the effects dried down. In all, I used this product as standalone 4-5 times and as a part of mix 2 times. 1 spray each. As standalone, after first two usage, I had a feeling of being tired after 4-5 hours. Though I was clear about the work that I had to do, I simply did not have the energy to do it and was feeling sleepy. Later when I searched on this forum about this molecule, I found that most of the people get the effects that I got the first time. Interestingly, I did notice some IOI when I used this with mix - 1 A314b spray split between wrists and 1 spray of P130 on right wrist. Immediately, out of nowhere I started getting IOI from one of my female colleague (sitting to my right) 😛. At one point she literally drove another female colleague away so that she can sit and have some discussion with me. Somehow, with me things started to get worse after repeated usage. BTW, I did not use it more than once per day. So it was just one spray in a day (sometimes to chest and sometimes to wrist). Finally, I’ve decided not to use this product for a while now. Will be re-testing it next week onwards and this time with more methodical approach. **2. A314 b spray** This is a wonderful product and made me believe that mones work. I would recommend spray version in meetings as results are instantaneous. In fact sometimes I feel that effects are better than the oil version - however the duration of effects is just 2-3 hours as opposed to longer duration of oil (around 6-10 hours). I used this in various places such as meetings with clients, colleagues. Since I am the Boss in my office, the effects with colleagues were not so pronounced. However, during meetings with clients, this one really shines. Many of the client employees treat me as their boss and show obvious reactions when I ask them questions. Sometimes, I felt that the managers (or people working on top positions) were shy talking to me. They would simply not look me in the eye when talking to me. Is this okay?😕 I already have an alpha personality when it comes to work and I am go-getter. But these reactions were new to me. They seems to be reserved / shy while talking to me. So good A314 to start with. I would say the effects are instantenous than the oil version. Go for it if you want to see good effects in business environment. **3. A314 oil** Well, this one lasts longer. Effects not as visible as A314b Spray. But you can feel the undercurrent. There is a DHV aura around you. Not much negations in meetings. You seems you create a positive vibe in group of people. I did not find the range longer as compared to A314b. I am comparing 1 spray to 1 drop oil here. The main advantage of A314 oil version is that the effects - though subtle - last longer to about 6-10 hours depending on the environment, heat, other factors. My usual application points are 1 drop split between wrists. There are a few occassions where I used 2 drops split between wrists and behing the ears so that I could get longer duration. And yes, I did experience a mild fall-out effect. Over last 4-5 days, my GF has become bit possessive about me. I mean I could easily judge from her reactions that she is not comfortable when I am talking with her friends (or any other lady) This is not usual for her. Need to be careful that I do not carry the effects home. ☹ **4. Summer Ammo:** Actually the bottle I got had very little ammo left in it. May be it was the leakage or incorrect packing. I did try to use it 5-6 times till now. Frankly not much effects for me on this one except headache and dizziness. May be it is over buffered to work in this region, or may be it is my body chemistry. Not sure… anybody can chime in on this one? Here are my applications: On around 3 occassions, I used 1 spray over chest. no effects On 1 occassion, I used 2 spray over wrists. The girls in office were sitting a bit far than usual. Once, I used 2 sprays: 1 on chest and other on Adam’s apple. Not much effects except that bit prolonged eyecontact from one of the female colleagues in office. Only time I got good IOI and some touchy effects was when I used it with P83. I sprayed 1 ammo on chest and 1 spray of P83 (10mcg) shared between my wrists. I was just looking for some easy flirting but with or without ammo, I could not see much difference. Oh yes, I do get headache and bit dizzy, after around 4-5 hours of application. **5. P83 (10 mcg per spray)** I have tried it only on a few occasions. Once I tried it at home in evening (2 sprays - back of neck and wrists) to test. Self effects - I got hot after 2 hours of application and we had a great night. I need not say more. 😉 Next time onwards, it was used with mixes and again, the effects were very subtle. Once I used it with ammo (mentioned above). At another occasion, I used it with 1 drop A314, 2 sprays P83 on my wrists and 2 sprays of 1xIH (on wrists). Not much effects. It was nothing different that using A314 standalone. I haven’t sprayed more than 20 mcg P83 till now. But except for the first time usage, did not see any effects. I must say that all the other usages were in daytime and in the office. So may be that’s the factor but I am sure it is my lack of knowledge about using this molecule that is not giving me effects. Need to keep on trying more and report back. **6. IS (2X)** Dangerous one!! I had my worst effects with this one. This is in contrary to most of the reports I have read on this site. No positive self effects seen - neither I could see any effects on people around me. However, with all the times that I used this, I felt very tired after around 4-5 hours. I simply could not focus on work, could not concentrate and felt very sleepy. I am physically fit, active and have a good food intake but these effects were never thought of. I have tried this as standalone, with A314 spray, with Ammo (worst effects), with ammo and P130 (terrible effects). I have stopped using it since then. I would not dare to touch it soon now. May be it is 2x or it needs some buffering? Can anyone please help me out on this one? I am really afraid to use this one again. ☹ **7. IH** I had 2 bottles (2x). 1 was exactly half empty when I got it. Again, may be shipping issue. So I filled 1 bottle with some remaining PA to make it 1x. So now I have 1 TOGO of 1x IH and another bottle of 2x IH. With 2 sprays of 2x IH, I did get some mild effects. People around me opened up and were talking some personal. But I can do that anyway with out IH with just 15 minutes of my talk with people I already know. However, on one occassion, I talked something more about me. (2 sprays 2X IH on wrists). That was not intended but with IH I should’ve know that 😉 For effects on other, I think I should get comfortable first and then, may be I should try 4X IH. Need to test more and report on it. **8. IO** Funny .. this one. Instead of getting effects from people around me, It got me start the talk and I was talking just about anything. Anything funny. Since I knew I had these mones on, I could recollect my senses and calmed down soon.. and I had used only two sprays on wrists. (1 on each). **9. Molecule K** Used it only once on Sunday evening at home. Don’t know what exactly happened I was half asleep for around an hour and later felt asleep only to wake up next morning that was around 12 hours of sleep - very unusual for me. I sleep for around 6-7 hours only. Later after searching on this site, found that it is TAK and such effects were known. I am planning to use it once as a standalone next time and later with Ammo, A314, and IH to see what is does to other people. **10. TUTH** Used it only twice. Once at home on chest 2 sprays - but that was a wrong time of month and did not get any results. Luckily I did not get bitchy effects. Once I used it in just before reaching office instead of ammo - just to see what happens. Surprisingly, got more IOI and touchy effects from girls in office. Since I don’t want to get into anything of that sort in office, I excused myself. But effect wise, I found this to work better than Summer AMMO in this region. I know it is just one month and I’m just a toddler when it comes to world of pheromones. I hope this Summary and subsequent journal help others. I would really like to invite some guidelines from the experts here. Regarding the bad effects that I got - especially from P130, IS, Summer Ammo, I am coming to a conclusion that Socials dont work for me :o. Or is there anything wrong in my application. need some help here. I am now looking forward to buy a regular ammo and test it along with other mixes. any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/2 "2013-02-10T21:56:00Z")
Wow! First of all many thanks for nomination of this thread. That was surprising. I’m not really that good in English and I thought that such a long post would be boring for readers. Having no responses still maintains that doubt. 🙂 But I’m all the way encouraged to write more. Thanks. More on [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/): There are quite a number of occasions where I have liked this molecule. The self effects are great. But sometimes the bad reactions like feeling of tiredness keeps me away from using it. I tried this with A314b spray and result were favorable: good IOI. Yesterday, in evening I used this with ammo and again got good IOI. Here are the application details.: 1 summer ammo sprayed on chest. After 1 hour, I sprayed 1 p130 on right hand from longer distance (around 6-8 inches) so that I get a wider diffusion area. This was just before I went to a station to drop my friend. We were sitting next to a girl waiting for bus to arrive. First 10 minutes, there was no reaction but then, started getting eye contacts and hair play. Since I was not interested, I did not play further. But this got me to conclude that p130 has good effects on targets after it is mixed with -none based product. So it is more of a complimentary product. But again, that’s too early for me to conclude. I need to test more. However, again after 4-5 hours, I got terrible headache and was feeling way too sleepy. May be I had less food yesterday and also had got up early. So I will reserve my testing for the day when I’m feeling fresh and in good mood. I think I’m going to try this molecule mixed with various consumer line products like TUTH, IO, IS, IH and post my results. Today I’m traveling long distance and going to try one of the consumer line depending on co-passengers. Will post the results in morning. Awaiting feedback from experts on my post above regarding why socials (except IH), get me drained? Is there something that does not suit my body chemistry or something I need to do to counter that effect?🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/3 "2013-02-11T21:30:33Z")
**A314:** So during my travel, it was through business class compartment (6 people in 1 compartment) - and most of them were old guys for me - 50-65 range . So nothing much to test in terms of attraction mixes. So I decided to give it a go for A314 oil. Had 2 drops: 1 split between wrists and second on neck behind both ears. Had mild DHV effects. But I think the spray version is more effective than the oil version. I applied at 8 pm and was chatting with a group of 4 people till 10.30. Had respectful discussion - mild effects - except for the fact that after half an hour, 2 guys were trying to avoid looking me directly in the eye. I am a kind of guy who like to talk to people by looking in their eye - eyes talk a lot more than your mouth. I am already an alpha when it comes to official / men group. So I was constantly feeling irritated when these 2 were avoiding looking at me. Others were talking with respect and listening intently to me. So, I should learn to accept the effects of A314 - not all of them work as I want them to 😠. So later I decided to sleep and leave the testing. In Morning when when we arrived at 6.30, those two were normal again. So I am sure now that the effect was about A314. that also means that the effect duration of oil based version was not more than 10 hours. **P83+AMMO=Instant fun** 🙂 This was fun. I applied 2 sprays of each on wrist (mixed) in cab just before I got down at hotel. The result was funny. As I entered the lobby, and waited for my turn, the receptionist Mid 30s there was giving me IOIs - frequent glances, hairplay, adjusting her dress (neck area). When I reached over the counter she could not look in the eyes and was stammering a bit while talking to me. It was just a 2 minute talk and I left. But that was fun. However, I got some cold stares from the person next to her. It means that ammo+P83 (10mcg) can be male-repellant. Need to test more in group of males 😉. Should be a fun to watch the reactions. **Again A314 - question.** Later, I washed and went to a business meeting. Again, applied 2 drops of A314. A314 gives the distinct aura that is not always useful to talk to people. It is not easy to open them up. You do get a good and respectful vibe but I found that people are afraid to open up to you. I have read that [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) or P75 (dont remember exactly) is better in such cases where you want to be more friendly but still maintain the control over meeting. Or may be next time, I should try 1 spray of IO with 2 drops of A314. Would that help? ☹ Answer pl guys.. ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/4 "2013-02-14T02:26:53Z")
**P83 = Mood Intensifier (sometimes BAD)** I was wrong about p83 till now. It is **not** the sexual mood enhancer. Though you get those effects from other (and self) due to the mood you set in due to other [pheromones](https://a314.com/). Yesterday evening, I had put on 2 drops of A314 + 1 TUTH on chest + 3 spray P83 (10mcg each on wrists and chest) to test it out. This was 15 minutes before meeting GF. As soon as we met, I disliked a thing that she did and boy… all the hell went loose. We had a very strong argument - it was never like before and I was reacting too strongly and we were almost on the verge of breaking up. I went back and was carrying the mood along with me till late night. Then after thinking over it in morning, I realised that it was P83. My reaction was very unusual. Normally, when I am angry, I still maintain my composure and words are always thought over. It never happened like this before. I think the P83 factor was the intensifier. 😕 So guys, this does have self effects and can also affect the mood of others. Be sure to be in good mood before you put this on. Otherwise you may get into all shit. Anyone else had similar experience? What other mone would you use to lighten up the mood? ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/5 "2013-02-16T06:55:08Z")
More testing on P83 + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) = Touch me… Okay I have tried this twice till now and confirm that it works like miracle. So after an interesting experience in my travel 4 days ago, I decided to try this out with my colleague in Office. Sprayed just 1 summer Ammo on chest and 2 sprays of P83 (10 mcg) on each wrist. I had 2 drops of A314 as my base (on inner wrists). The effects were just great. It created an all touchy atmosphere. My colleague who sits near me was all touchy and “accidentally” touched me about 10-12 times in around 45-50 minutes. Sometimes it was legs, sometimes elbows, hands, shoulders. That was a hit. Even I was feeling touchy and somehow had a craving to touch her (non sexual way) but overall it was lot of fun. It was all non-stop flirting for around 2 hours. The effect required 1 hour after the application. Then slowly it started building up. I just loved the whole vibe it created. Thinking of making it a little more sexual by adding another spray of Ammo. Sat- Sun are my days off from the Mones. Will try this mix on Monday and have my notes here. ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/6 "2013-02-16T07:18:12Z")
**Reporting on Mixes / Mones:** Just jotting down my easy reporting format so that I can copy it next time onwards and report. This would make it easy to take notes and report more scientifically. This an example - to be used as a template. The text in black has to be replaced. **Product (Mix) name and Strength:** e.g. TAK (12.5 mcg) + IH2X **Mix Details:** e.g. TAK applied over IH immediately/After 1/2 hour. **Application Dosage:** TAK 2 sprays (25 mcg) over two wrists. Later IH 2X 1 spray each on forearms **Test Environment (with people):** Work/Office/Cafe/Club/Function ~50 people **Effect Range:** 5 feets **Duration of Effect:** e.g. 5 hours **Self Effects:** details about self effects - specifically immediately, peak and residual **Effects on Others/Target:** Noticable effects, reactions, positive and/or negative Any suggestions and improvements are welcome. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ShcShc11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@ShcShc11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShcShc11)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/7 "2013-02-16T07:25:37Z")
Do you have just the summer ammo or the other ammo as well? ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/8 "2013-02-16T07:28:07Z")
I just have [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and it gives me headaches at 2 sprays. Just ordered regular Ammo 2X. I think that should be better. 😉 Will post my results with regular Ammo here. ---
**Author:** ![pheronik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronik/32/248_2.png) [@pheronik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronik)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-in-asian-indian-subcontinent-a-great-begining/58114/9 "2013-03-03T08:35:01Z")
Starting to Believe in Pheromones !!!😃 **Product (Mix) name and Strength:** IH1x+Ammo+P74+a314 1 drop **Mix Details:** 1 Drop of A314, 1 spray Ammo, P74 (10 mcg) + IH **Application Dosage:** A314 1 drop split over two wrists. Ammo on chest. Later after 20 minutes, IH1X 1 spray split on forearms, Added 2 sprays of P74 (5mcg) on each wrist **Test Environment (with people):** Work/Office ~12 people **Effect Range:** 10 feets **Duration of Effect:** 7-8 hours **Self Effects:** Insane. Felt great, very confident, very extrovert. I lost the fear of losing (if any). Important was that it had my brain working faster than usual. This effect remained throughout the day. 😉😉 **Effects on Others/Target:** Great effects, everybody was positive around me. They were constantly smiling and seemed to be attracted towards me. Not a single negative vibe/feeling from anyone in whole day. It was like Instant attraction. People laughed at anything I said. They just seemed to be happy to be around me and enjoyed my company. I am going to try this mix more for consistency. Overall I think this was a truly great mix for me. I am going to try this tomorrow with Ammo 2 sprays and keeping rest of the combination same. I had been playing around with A314+TUTH+IH last week. Although I got some minor hits, they were not as pronounced as this mix. I maintain a private journal too and will be writing about 3 days of reporting of using the A314, TUTH, IH mix and its results. 🙂