# Pheros with Your Hostess, Nehve **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [November 13, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054 "2009-11-13T06:51:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/21 "2009-12-04T09:23:02Z")
> Being a person with grossly poor social aptitude (I’m serious…I don’t talk to people, don’t have friends, never dated, etc…") I know what that’s like. Good luck with your experiments. ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/22 "2009-12-04T14:16:49Z")
You know, what’s helped me boost my confidence over the years is learning what I am good at and doing it A LOT. My confidence has increased more since I started wearing pheros. It’s like these products opened up another world to me. Just having people acknowledge me and be more open to getting to know me has helped me so much. Even when I don’t wear pheros, that attitude remains. I say keep at it. Baby steps are still steps! You have do the inner work too, but pheros can help you accelerate faster as you grow more comfortable with social interaction.🙂 > [@Nehve1](#): > > Today I used some 2 sprays each of IO, Is/b, and Instant Shine. I was assigned at a place where I’m more likely to encounter my TG, so I had to pack a little more heat. 😛 I’ll resume methodically testing with less product next workday. I didn’t notice anything blatantly odd nor did I end up seeing my TG. Oh well. > > I think I’m having an epiphany or something. I’ve been feeling more confident lately. Not confident as in “I look good and we all know it” but “comfy-er in my own skin” confident. 🆒 > > It’s a little uncomfortable. I feel a little better. Like I want to stand tall and look people dead in the eyes, but Im not used to it, so I’m having a hard time. I imagine that it’s like being the obese person who loses a lot of weight, but still feels like the “fat girl/guy” inside. > > Being a person with grossly poor social aptitude (I’m serious…I don’t talk to people, don’t have friends, never dated, etc…"), this is different. I’m not totally free of inhibitions, but it’s somewhat strange not to be _ **fully** _ subjugated by insecurity and anxiety because that’s been my default setting every day of my life. > > As a result, I realize that I need to learn how to fill in the gap between my new confidence and the new social interaction I’ll come upon consequently. While the rest of you were sharpening your social skills and vocabulary just by communicating over the years, I wasn’t. Thus, my speech is not the best (I have a hard time expressing myself when people talk to me) and I don’t really know what “being myself” is. So it’s going to be interesting to pad the space between with vocabulary and a personality.:o > > Anyway, I know this isn’t the Dr.Phil forum, so I’ll stop. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/23 "2009-12-07T05:15:58Z")
> [@The OFFICIAL MX274 Discussion Thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/23): > > You HAVE seen results girl 🙂 > > What you describe is Mx274…Feeling laid back, harmonious & calming any stress or anxiety. It wont give you a confidence boost though. IS is good for that, IS/a is great for it 🙂 It’s the TAL in IS/a which has that alpha woman feel. IS/b wont do that though as it’s TAH heavy & that’s all about the soft, feminine vibe. WoW. That’s _ **so** _ interesting. This means it’s likely the _[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)_ that’s responsible for the confidence, as I’ve been using it practically every day since I got it. This is so fun. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/24 "2009-12-07T08:42:44Z")
> [@Nehve1](#): > > WoW. That’s _ **so** _ interesting. This means it’s likely the _Instant Shine_ that’s responsible for the confidence, as I’ve been using it practically every day since I got it. This is so fun. 🆒 For me IS/a is more potent in terms of confidence boosting. It’s a dominant alpha woman “don’t mess with me” type vibe. IS is more happy, cheery confidence, a mood brightener that also gives you a bit of a confidence push 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snuffleupagus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snuffleupagus/32/1712_2.png) [@Snuffleupagus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snuffleupagus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/25 "2009-12-07T16:25:08Z")
> [@Nehve1](#): > > While the rest of you were sharpening your social skills and vocabulary just by communicating over the years, I wasn’t. Thus, my speech is not the best (I have a hard time expressing myself when people talk to me) and I don’t really know what “being myself” is. So it’s going to be interesting to pad the space between with vocabulary and a personality.:o > > Anyway, I know this isn’t the Dr.Phil forum, so I’ll stop. 😮 Hey Nehve! It sounds like you’re having some interesting experiments! Your reply to one of my forum posts got me interested in checking out these women’s journals. I haven’t started my own as of yet. And yes, you can call me Snuffy. 🙂 Your description here brings a smile to my face! I can relate. I also had a hard time getting my feelings and thoughts to flow into speech. It was so frustrating. Sometimes someone’s simple question would make me feel as though I had been caught off guard – like as though I was just going about my own business and being comfortable backstage, yet suddenly the stage curtain is drawn open, and it’s time to perform, unprepared and without costume. Totally unexpected. _blanks out_. A real improvisation task. Like, “Quick!, connect your inner world with the outer world without showing any signs of weirdness!” This probably sounds so strange to those who haven’t felt this way. But maybe this isn’t how you are feeling either, hahah. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/26 "2009-12-08T04:23:49Z")
> [@Snuffleupagus](#): > > Your description here brings a smile to my face! I can relate. > > I also had a hard time getting my feelings and thoughts to flow into speech. It was so frustrating. Sometimes someone’s simple question would make me feel as though I had been caught off guard – like as though I was just going about my own business and being comfortable backstage, yet suddenly the stage curtain is drawn open, and it’s time to perform, unprepared and without costume. Totally unexpected. _blanks out_. A real improvisation task. Like, “Quick!, connect your inner world with the outer world without showing any signs of weirdness!” This probably sounds so strange to those who haven’t felt this way. . 🙄 EXACTLY! 😉 Snuffy, we are so -----\>here\<-----!!! I’m definitely looking forward to your journal…or big long thread of your phero experiences.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Snuffleupagus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snuffleupagus/32/1712_2.png) [@Snuffleupagus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snuffleupagus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/27 "2009-12-12T12:07:54Z")
> [@Nehve1](#): > > EXACTLY! 😉 Snuffy, we are so -----\>here\<-----!!! > > I’m definitely looking forward to your journal…or big long thread of your phero experiences.😛 [It’s begun.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/snuffys-phero-cloud-adventures/34785) ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/28 "2009-12-14T23:42:49Z")
> [@The OFFICIAL MX274 Discussion Thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx274-discussion-thread/61662/24): > > _ **Detailed Report** _ > > Last week I did a little playing with MX274 alone. As far as effects on others, I didn’t notice much of anything. However, as someone pointed out to me, I did experience self effects. I did not feel that silly confidence I felt while on Instant Shine (which I’d used practically everyday before I got the mx274). Instead, I felt very calm and laid back, almost like I do when I’m at home and I wasn’t automatically uncomfortable like I tend to be when around other people. > > This week I’ve been testing out MX274 in conjunction with P79 (the supposed enhancer) and a couple other guest stars. Considering that I have no life, all testing was conducted at work. > > **Day One:**** 2 sprays MX274 to chest, 2 sprays P79 to chest, 1 spray IH (x2) to wrist, I spray Is/b to wrist.** > > I added the IH and IS/b because on this day, I was at a post where I was in better position to possibly interact with my TG. Unfortunately he did not drop by. Nonetheless, this is the first day I can say with confidence that I had hits. I was like “whoa” because since I’ve been “using”, I haven’t experienced anything so definite. > > 1. A particular messenger came to my department today. If you don’t know already, I don’t give the best impression and people tend to think that I’m stuck up. With my other coworkers, she is always nice and sometimes engages in short conversation with them. Whenever I say “Hi”, she usually will return it, but that’s it. On this day, she actually gave me an enthusiastic “How you doing??” I literally took a step back and a double take because I wasn’t prepared to answer her. > > 2. A couple minutes later, a housekeeper walked in to do her job. I always feel awkward with her because I go out of my way to ignore her. Let me explain. I don’t make a huge effort to say hello to people if I don’t have to. One reason is because it really bothers me when I “speak” to someone and they don’t atleast smile in acknowledgment. In response, some people then decide to themselves, “Well if she can’t speak to me, I’m not going to speak to her,”. 🙄 I think this particular lady has me in that category, so I always feel tense when she comes by, and I pretend that she’s invisible. Imagine my surprise when she said, “Hey, how you doin?” She hasn’t greeted me in a year!!!😮 > > 3. Then, another worker walked in to borrow something from our department. She was just minding her business at first, but then she just turned around and started venting to me about how the people on the other floor don’t want her to use their stuff and blah blah. I nodded and listened and grunted in response…but in my head, my mind was saying, “ **Are you SERIOUSLY talking to me like you know me right now???** ” It was so bizarre. She was looking right at me, talking to me like we’re friends. I have never said two words to her, and most people (obviously having been warned) tend to leave me alone. People think I’m stuck up and/or an idiot. > > 4. My coworkers always offer me help, but this day, they were really helpful. Usually I tend to get kind of irritated when they want to help because I can’t help but feel like they think that I can’t handle my job. But at one point, two of them were doing things to help at my post, and the strangest part is that it just felt like that’s how it should be. 🙂 > > 5. I had a problem with a messenger that came down and it took me a while to finally get her stuff together and send her on way. I felt bad that it took so long and I actually thanked her for waiting. 😮 My social anxiety usually never allows me to express anything but focus and fake cheerfulness, so this was different. > > **DAY 2** : **1 spray Mx274 to chest, 1 spray P79 to chest** > > While I was in the cafeteria on my break, a random lady I’ve never seen before came up to my table and proceeded to ask me about my hair, which is like hers. She said a few things about the topic, and seemed to want to chat more, but I’m not “there” yet. Besides being unable to carry a normal conversation, I was caught off guard because no one ever talks to me. So that was interesting. > > **DAY 3** : **\* 2 sprays Mx274 (one to wrist, one to chest), 2 sprays p79 (one to wrist, one to chest)** > > I had a couple mishaps at work, but I fixed them and didn’t dwell too much on it. I did feel stupid about what happened but the incidents didn’t ruin my day as badly as they normally would have. Afterwards, I read somewhere that Mx274 may help to minimize “ego-bruising”, so there you go. > > On my way out of the building, some random person jokingly reached for the cake I was carrying, but I don’t know that I’d call that a hit. > > **DAY 4** : **3 sprays Mx274 (2 to chest, 1 to wrist), 3 sprays P79 (2 to chest, 1 to wrist), 1 spray IH (back of neck)** > > I threw the IH in there again in effort to see if I could replicate **Day 1**. I wanted to see if the IH made the difference. > > Ugh. I think I may have OD’d on _SOME_thing. In my amateur opinion, I’d say that it was the P79. > > I don’t know if this day was a fair test because there were several little things that annoyed me–nothing anyone did, just random problems and issues that came up. I was able to conceal it the best I could, but I was SO irritated. Based on my previous personal reactions to MX274, I’d think that I would have been able to be mellow and cool internally, but NO. I don’t think anyone around me was tense, but it just felt like it was in the air…or maybe i was just self-conscious, thinking that others could sense my mood. I was so ready to go home. By the end of my workday, I felt as if I weren’t wearing anything. One of my coworkers asked me some questions and I was back to answering sheepishly, with timid eye contact and a stupid grin. It wasn’t the best day for me. I think the p79 may have contributed. > > **Odds and ends** : I like the scent of the MX274, but I think it’s a fighter 🆒. What I mean is that I cover it everyday (sometimes twice) with some of my Demeter scent, but by the end of the day, I smell the grapefruity cookie Mx274, which is fine by me. I could eat my wrists. > > The latest of the preceding hits occurred a good 9 hours after application, so it probably lasts a while. And all of the hits occured within 6 feet of me. > > **Conclusions** : I think the MX274 makes me feel like I’m too cool for school. 🆒 It makes me feel like I’m a cool, down-to-earth chick and that someone could just feel free and comfortable to talk to me about whatever, no matter how random. However, it doesn’t seem to make people excessively chatty. For me it doesn’t feel space-y and carefree. For the most part, I just felt comfortable. I can’t say that I felt a confidence surge, though (which I attribute to the Instant Shine). > > As far as I can tell, I don’t notice much “sexy” with this. I didn’t interact with many males, but I presume that any exchange would have felt mostly platonic (atleast on my end). I just felt like a cool friend. It feels like just laying on the couch and watching TV with your friend, talking about anything. Hope you can understand what I mean. > > On to the next adventure!!! 😛 Wow, very interesting and great post. There seems to be some tension in your work place or should I say a lot. How do you survive in a work place where everyone treats or should I say treated you like an outcast? Either way, if I were you I would wear those mixes everyday or at least the MX274 until there is more of a friendly atmosphere between you and all your co workers. ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/29 "2009-12-15T05:13:13Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > Wow, very interesting and great post. There seems to be some tension in your work place or should I say a lot. How do you survive in a work place where everyone treats or should I say treated you like an outcast? > > Either way, if I were you I would wear those mixes everyday or at least the MX274 until there is more of a friendly atmosphere between you and all your co workers. Well, I probably make it seem worse than it is. My department is composed of less than 10 people each shift and they treat me nice for the most part.. I am a literal social idiot. The people I had hits with are people from other departments that I don’t work with. They just have to drop by to take care of business sometimes. All they know about me is from word of mouth of the stupid mistakes I’ve made in the past that have affected them and that I am stuck up or “touched” or mean…because I don’t talk to anyone or entertain smalltalk, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/30 "2009-12-19T06:46:11Z")
**A Week Starring CTTM. _Detailed Report_** I did a little playing with CTTM this week. I “covered” spray sites with my Demeter Foodie scent. Covered is in quotes because I think the perfume is kind of wimpy. My best hit comes from a coworker of mine that I haven’t had the best work relationship with. It’s kind of nice to have him be nice to me in recent weeks. Other than that, I didn’t really notice anything very blatant this week. **Day 1: 1 spray CTTM to chest** There is a man I work with who has an “interesting” personality. Let’s call him,um…“Douche”.😛 Out of everyone there, I’m the most on edge with him because we have a tense past (dating back to when I first started working there and I made mistakes daily) and he always has some reason to gripe and complain about me. Well, I think my “voodoo” has been working on him because since I’ve been “using”, I haven’t had a bad day with Douche… **and it doesn’t even seem to matter what product I choose!** So anyway, whenever he arrives, he’ll say something like, “What’s the day’s scoop?” Which is his way of asking for workplace gossip and/or official business. So he asked this as a general question when he first came in,as usual. And then when it was just us alone, he asked me the question directly! I think it was his way of pressing for friendly conversation. On this day I felt like I wanted to talk, but didn’t really feel much at ease. **Day 2: Two sprays CTTM (one to chest, one to wrists)** I think I also should mention that I had 1 spray of residual [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) that I had put on earlier in the morning before work. Douche said to me, “Are you doing alright today, Nehve?” **What???** When has he _ **ever** _ cared about how I’m doing? Then he even went further and asked me a couple yes/no questions about my personal social (or non-social) life, which he never does. 😮 Next, another coworker mentioned something Douche brought to work and Douche looked at me and shared a little tidbit about the item. He was looking RIGHT at me, as if I were a _normal_ person who would actually participate in chit chat 🙄. This is different because normally he (and everyone else I work with) share their personal stories to the air or to someone whom they know will engage and respond ( **in other words, anyone but ME!..It’s bad when people think they’ll get a better reaction from _empty space_ than a particular person!!!** ). What’s cool, though, is that I actually did ask a follow-up question to his comment. Aww…it was a short and simple exchange, but it’s the first time that I’ve **ever** expressed any remote interest in Douche’s personal life. He was really nice to me the rest of the day, actually speaking to me like a (near) equal person. Also a random Janitor guy said hello to me in the hall. I don’t know if I should count that because I think I startled him, and I _ **was** _ looking kind of _ **fly** _ that day. 😛 **Day 3: 3 Sprays CTTM (2 to chest/neck, 1 to wrists)** Nothing much. A worker from another department said hello as I passed in the hallway. _shrug_ **Day 4: 2 sprays CTTM, 1 spray MX274, 1 spray (12.5 mcg) P79** Nothing much. I thought this day was a waste of product because I was a little sick and a little gassy (TMI)😉 so I was just uncomfortable to begin with. One thing that may be of note is that my coworker sitting beside me complained a few times about being so scatterbrained and unfocused for some reason. Was it moi? :o I don’t know. **Day 5: 2 sprays CTTM (chest, wrists), 1 spray Instant Shine (chest)** I went to the grocery store. I noticed that I was at ease this day. Just walking around minding my own business. At one point I was in the checkout line and I suddenly realized that I was just looking around, not self-conscious about where I should be looking and who was looking at me. I think it was the Instant Shine. 🆒 **Day 6: 2 sprays CTTM (chest, wrists), 2 sprays=25mcg TAF (chest wrists), 1 spray Mx274** On this day I think I was in a conscious daze. You know like when you find yourself staring straight ahead, and it feels almost like when youre in a hot shower and don’t want to leave? Well, yeah, it was like that, but with the capacity to be functional. TAF, I presume. I wasn’t cranky or irritable, but I didn’t feel like talking. I made a dumb mistake on this day. I could not believe it…it was so careless, and I still don’t know how I overlooked it. I was getting over a slight cold, but my coworkers seemed to act like I had the _ **Swine Flu** _, or something. All I did was cough once every 20 minutes, but I got lots of unneccessary sympathy from them. One of my coworkers even cleaned up a section of my workspace for me! They know that I always put on a smiley face 😃, despite anything, so they probably thought that I felt worse than I was letting on. Or maybe the TAF made them pay attention to me? What do you think? Nonetheless, I think that effects of the TAF overrode everything. **Day 7: 2 sprays CTTM (Chest, wrists), 2 sprays Instant Shine (Chest, back of neck).** Nothing really. I started out feeling pretty upbeat. Instant Shine. One of our messenger guys said “How you doing?” after I said Hello. This particular guy hasn’t done that in a while. I actually explained 2 ( **count them, TWO!!!** ) situations to two different people without stumbling and stuttering over my words. _shrug_ **Odds and Ends** : I don’t think the CTTM works as advertised for me, but I have to consider that A) I’m using the pheros primarily at work and B) the people I work with know how I am, so they aren’t going to automatically start yapping it up with me even if they do feel chatty within. I don’t think I’ve been out and about around strangers for enough time (just my daily hour lunch and trip to the grocery store this week) to give CTTM a fair report. And plus, I’m not all that observant in public, so maybe I _ **am** _ getting stares or weird looks that I don’t notice. I may come back to it later. On to the next adventure!!! ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/31 "2009-12-21T01:19:09Z")
I’m playing around with IS/A this week. This is going to be interesting. Wearing it makes me feel kind of like I’m wearing [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), but I don’t know if I can handle the confidence. It’s uncomfortable for me to feel like I am the “stuff” around the men-folk. I know it’s something I have to work out for myself since I’m not used to it, but it just feels _unmerited_ or something. I just don’t know what to do with myself… …upping sprays tomorrow. Help me. :o …full report at end of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/32 "2009-12-21T02:29:33Z")
> [@Nehve1](#): > > I’m playing around with IS/A this week. This is going to be interesting. Wearing it makes me feel kind of like I’m wearing Instant Shine, but I don’t know if I can handle the confidence. It’s uncomfortable for me to feel like I am the “stuff” around the men-folk. I know it’s something I have to work out for myself since I’m not used to it, but it just feels _unmerited_ or something. I just don’t know what to do with myself… > > …upping sprays tomorrow. Help me. :o > > …full report at end of the week. Woo! I can’t wait to read your IS/A report!😃 Also, great detailed report on CTTM. It sounds like you got some good hits with it. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/33 "2009-12-22T23:36:08Z")
When I read your report it recently dawned on me that I have not received much results from women wearing the CTTM 2 and seeing that I never really geared it towards them I don’t think I took too much note of it. Great report! I love reading results because there is always something new to find out and learn. I am going to have to pay more attention to the women’s reactions when I wear this product. Thanks for the eye-opener hun! ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/34 "2009-12-28T02:34:37Z")
_ **IS/A Detailed Report** _ **Day 1:** 2 sprays IS/A (chest, wrist) * * * Had that same “Ummph” I get with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I went to a home improvement store and the person I was with had to discuss something with one of the sales guys. The sales guy was decent looking, I guess. He was even the physical type I tend to like, but I wasn’t trying to look at him in that way. I started out standing with them, but I became so uncomfortable that I had to go sit down on a bench in the background and **pretend to pick at my nails**. 😮 Knowing me, this is not really a surprise that I’d do something like that. **Day 2: _3 sprays IS/A_** I finally found some perfumes that last all day. I got my first compliment on my scent on this day, which is a little exciting b/c I know for sure now that the pheros are diffusing…whereas I couldn’t tell for sure before. Again, I had the “solid” feeling I get with Shine, minus the friendly and tendency to want to talk. **Day 3:** 2 sprays IS/A to chest * * * Nothing really. Again, solid, but not necessarily happier. **Day 4: _3 sprays IS/A_** Leaving the building a floor cleaner guy wished me a good night and a Merry Christmas to my back. I wasn’t even sure that he was talking to me at first. I’ve seen him before, but that’s it. One other thing that may be of note is that on this day, I noticed that I was more amused than usual by my coworkers. I was smiling on the inside like someone had told me an inside joke…really amused by their behavior and interaction (which was no different than usual…just found it funnier this day) **Day 5:** 3 sprays IS/A (chest, wrist) 1 spray MX274 (chest) 1 IH (back of neck) * * * Early in the day, I was getting some stuff ready for one of the messenger people. He’s really friendly and outgoing, joking around with the people in my department. He left for a minute while he waited on someone to get his stuff together. When he came back, he realized I was standing there with his stuff and he seemed to get really calm. Like the friendliness faded and he became really serious. I’d love to call that a hit, but I tend to have that effect on people, anyway. I tend to make people uneasy. :o Later, a different one of the messenger staff came to my dept. My coworkers think he’s cute. He’s Aiiiiight…but I never felt anything towards him. However, while I was helping him, I was fighting smiling and acting weird (er). :o I mean, I usually feel like that when my crush TG comes down, not this dude. 😕 Otherwise I had a decent day. Coworkers were nice and one of them gave me a literal friendly pat on the shoulder. Again, I took note of the amused part. Usually I am continuously frontin’ with a fake smile or laugh, but I found myself genuinely tickled by my coworkers and their _going ons_😃 **Day 6:** 3 sprays IS/A 1 spray (12.5 mcg) TAF * * * A man held the door open for me in the stairwell. I was walking slow, so he wouldn’t have to! I thought that the TAF would cut out some of the giddiness. I think it worked. I felt a little less “solid” than the previous days, but I didn’t feel that anxious. I did feel cute, but not upbeat and peppy. I just felt normal, I guess, and at one point I had even forgotten about wearing the IS/A. I didn’t interact with any men this day, so maybe this test isn’t all that valid. **Odds and Ends:** Since I finally found a scent that’s long lasting, I feel like I’m in the game now. Before, I wasn’t sure that the diffusion was happening, but now I’m sure that it is. So far, I don’t feel alpha or large and in charge with IS/a. I feel a little more compact or solid–which means that I feel less of the loose strings of anxiety and self consciousness. More grounded or sturdy in a similar way as I feel with Instant Shine, minus the bubbly and bright. **I don’t know if TAL or IS/a is best suited for me, only because my aloofness, shyness, perceived snobbiness…is already intimidating. Maybe the IS/A makes me seem even more unapproacheable.** Still, I feel like I can’t “go” where IS/A wants me to. I think the giddy nervousness comes from feeling cute or maybe even _gasp_ sexy 😮, and knowing that someone else may _ **possibly** _ think the same thing. Normally this is what we’d all like, but it’s hard for me to be nice or friendly to someone who _ **may** _ find me attractive. It’s like I don’t want to give them a chance or an invitation to express their admiration, approval?? I know I’m strange. _I don’t know for sure if the amusement I described is really a self effect, but wouldn’t you think that it would be more characteristic of IS/b???_ **Anyway, I am going to give IS/A another run this coming week**. I want to see if I can pull _something_ out of this before I say that it doesn’t work for me or that I’m not a TAL girl 😉. This time I’m going to use it with TAF (which seemed to decrease the giddiness) and maybe some other guest stars. I may actually be comfortable enough to roll with any hits or effects this week. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/35 "2009-12-30T20:57:09Z")
Nehve, you wrote that you “tend to make people uneasy”. This may be because you feel uneasy around others and they’re picking up on it. Unconsciously people will be wondering why you feel uneasy, when there is no real reason for it. From what you’ve written, you’re a bit like me, uncomfortable being the centre of attention. Do you meditate or do yoga? Even just doing relaxation exercises like self-hypnosis may help you. ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/36 "2009-12-31T05:23:29Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > Nehve, you wrote that you “tend to make people uneasy”. This may be because you feel uneasy around others and they’re picking up on it. This makes a lot of sense and I agree. I’m so socially malformed. :o And, no, I’ve never tried the things you mentioned…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/37 "2010-01-03T06:25:44Z")
**IS/A Take Two** _Detailed Report_ **Day 1 2 spray IS/a (chest wrist) 1 spray IH (x2) 1 spray (12.5mcg) Taf (chest)** I felt slightly upbeat and really **cute** today. I was walking around pretty comfortable in my own skin. In my phero notes, I described it as not being a conceited “_I’m the ish and I know it, and you do,too…_” confidence, but an “_I have what I have, and what I have is **all** good…_” confidence. 🆒 I was walking around a little taller. I made a minor mistake this day. Usually I let my coworkers think what they want, **but this time I actually took a minute to try to explain my train of thought in deciding to do what I did.** I got a couple of unexpected greetings from familiar faces in my building. It was only three, but that’s more than I usually get. One thing I noted is that I did pretty well at **eye contact**. One of the people in a neighboring dept had to deal with me about an issue…and I was looking him **dead** in his eyes. **Day 2 2 Is/A (chest wrist) 2 sprays TAF (chest, wrist)=25mcg** In an effort to decrease my own awareness of the IS/A, I upped the TAF. _Okay, I know that “decreasing awareness” and “TaF” don’t sound like they go together but, hey, I’m testing!_ My TG showed up that day, but I didn’t go near him to introduce him to my “cloud”. I could kick myself for that, but I couldn’t do anything but pretend to ignore him (which is the norm) and walk away. **I was standing about 12-15 ft away…do you think that’s too far for him to pick up anything?** A couple other guys came by that day. I felt decent…I thought I looked alright, but I felt a little of that silly, self-conscious confidence that I was trying to reduce. During my brief time waiting on these guys, I felt like I wanted to tone it down. At some points I felt like I was walking like a toddler, to avoid swaying or generating attention. **Day 3 3 sprays IS/A 1 spray TAF=12.5mcg** **This day I felt very competent. I didn’t necessarily have to display it, but I just felt like I knew what I was doing. I felt super-cute, too. I also noted that I was giving direct and extended eye contact when answering or explaining. I was walking around feeling kind of mature.** I still had that amusing feeling in the background. I felt like I was holding back smiling. The guy I mentioned in my last report (“_Later, a different one of the messenger staff came to my dept. My coworkers think he’s cute. He’s Aiiiiight…but I never felt anything towards him. However, while I was helping him, I was fighting smiling and acting weird (er). :o I mean, I usually feel like that when my crush TG comes down, not this dude._ 😕”) came by this day. This time I wasn’t as affected by his presence, but he still made me a little nervous. I still am not sure what to make of IS/A. With it, I tend to feel pretty, but as I mentioned a couple times now, I’m not all that comfortable with that. 12.5 mcg of Taf seemed to help with it a little bit. 25 mcg seemed to make it a tad worse. I guess that’s something I need to work out because I think the giddyness and self-consciousness comes from me having a higher level of confidence, but not being sure that other people see the same thing??? I don’t know. **On to the next adventure!** ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/38 "2010-01-04T00:01:05Z")
12-15 feet is probably too far for him to pick up your phero cloud… One thing I’ve noticed about women is that when interested, they will often stand nearby while doing something and not paying attention to their target, giving him an opportunity to take the initiative and do something. Or if you have longer hair, spray some on your hair and give a hair flick in his direction to spread the pheros. Body language wise, the back-turn-hair-flick-towards-him is a pretty strong signal, it evolved to spread natural pheromones and works just as well with the artificial ones. ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/39 "2010-01-04T04:52:40Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > 12-15 feet is probably too far for him to pick up your phero cloud… Yeah…i thought that was too far…☹ …and P.S: My hair is the texture as my avatar, so um…it doesn’t do any swinging or flicking, lol. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054/40 "2010-01-04T11:42:04Z")
I guess you could shake your hair like a strong wind shaking the leaves of a bush or something 😃 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-with-your-hostess-nehve/34054.md?page=3)