# Pherosignature Perception: Persistance, Change

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 29, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293 "2007-10-29T17:48:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293/1 "2007-10-29T17:48:13Z")

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In another thread, the wise MadisonTate wrote:

> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> … my discovery of phero-canaries (people who seem to respond to phero-signature changes very easily)  
> …  
> Tater has also come to the conclusion that certain pheros will make even people whove seen you every day for 10 years re-evaluate you based on your current signature.  
> …  
> Tater has also noticed that, when meeting new people, a BRUTAL mix can brand people for later interaction.

So this thread is dedicated to specific techniques (mixes?) that are related to influencing others to  
[ul]  
[li]identify you with a specific pherosig element[/li][li]notice your pherosig has changed[LIST][/li][li]a core change[/li][li]a peripheral / addon change[/li][li]w/ people who’ve known you ‘forever’[/ul][/li][li]fail to notice your pherosig has changed (persistence of previous phero-presentation)[ul][/li][li]‘branding’ a pheromemory[/li][li]‘ignoring’ changes[/ul][/LIST][/li]My current hypothesis is that EST (~20 mcg) or a drop or two of A314 seems to immediately provoke “notice” in males and females alike … still testing.

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293/2 "2007-10-29T21:07:21Z")

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TAF will help people reset their perceptions of your pherosig. (or indeed other aspects of you).

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293/3 "2007-10-29T21:50:58Z")

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Can you elaborate on dosage, situation, or dynamics … and do you have a specific story / incident to relate?

> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> TAF will help people reset their perceptions of your pherosig. (or indeed other aspects of you).

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293/4 "2007-10-29T23:09:26Z")

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> [@MarkL](#):
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> Can you elaborate on dosage, situation, or dynamics … and do you have a specific story / incident to relate?

alas nothing that crisp but more of a general observation.

i would err on low doses of TAF. 25 mcg really is more like a drug - stick to 5-10 mcg total application (for me anyway). also see old post by mharris with TAF in text.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosignature-perception-persistance-change/6293/5 "2007-10-30T11:08:28Z")

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> [@MarkL](#):
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> Can you elaborate on dosage, situation, or dynamics … and do you have a specific story / incident to relate?

Mark,  
Have a look at the following posts that I collected in [TAF's 'erotic' properties: collected member quotes and a TUTH, TAF, P96 date mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/erotic-properties-of-taf/4640)

[TAF 5mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-5mcg/61/22)  
tacitus (January 4, 2006):  
" **It matters HOW you are paying attention**  
good old brain isn’t the simple aspic they make it out to be, visual and auditory processing systems are complex, sophisticated, multilayered things… [([TAF 5mcg - #25 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-5mcg/61/25))  
MHarris (January 4, 2006):  
"…There does actually seem to be a period in the mating process which may be similar to the [([TAF 5mcg - #19 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-5mcg/61/19))  
MHarris (January 4, 2006):  
"…To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me effects on others)

When I go on walks with 50mcg [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/), I notice myself picking up details I’ve never noticed before. I walked down the same street I’ve been on tens of times, maybe over a hundred. I notice little shops and details of shops I never noticed before.

At the same time, I did notice a sort of tunnel vision… it was sort of like “zooming in” mentally.

Maybe it’s functioning at a higher level entirely… being able to simultaneously take in more, yet use that same expanded awareness/attention on anything we decide to focus on.

I, too, find myself lingering with [\*\*[TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) **to affect them, too, then they could very well discover charming facets of you they’d never have discovered before.**

**Could be a good fall in love (or lust) [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for that aspect (“you are SO fascinating!”). Could also be useful for revitalizing relationships (“I never noticed this about you before… but, wow, it’s like I’m getting to know you for the first time… there’s so much more to discover about you”).**

I think it stops premature closure from the reticular activiating system in the brain, and, thus makes you more childlike."

_([I'm not your friend formula? - #7 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/im-not-your-friend-formula/2672/7))  
Sigma (March 23, 2007):  
“…You also might want to look into [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/), which has a bit of a perception altering characteristic to it, as a ‘steering’ pheromone. This may facilitate her seeing you in a different light, and make her more receptive to seeing you as more than a friend, but someone she could be sexually enticed by.” ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))_ ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/))
