# Philosophy's "Falling In Love" pheromone product **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 19, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236 "2009-03-19T21:01:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/1 "2009-03-19T21:01:27Z")
Has anyone tried Philosophy’s Falling in Love [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/)? It comes in a tiny brown bottle, and is somewhat expensive (but lasts forever). Before here, that was the only “pheromone product” I had ever really used. You put a small dab of it on your upper lip (while holding your breath, you’re not supposed to breathe it in for some reason). I think I got it as a sample or something, a long time ago, and ended up purchasing a couple times (one bottle lasts like years). It makes me feel beautiful, and makes others percieve me as very attractive also. I have no idea why, or what’s in it though. ---
**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/2 "2009-03-19T21:11:12Z")
That is very interesting. I’m definitely going to look that up. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/3 "2009-03-19T21:17:32Z")
I tried to look it up recently, when I became more actively interested in [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (since I’ve been here), but all I could really find was their perfume with the same Falling in Love name. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/4 "2009-03-20T18:15:08Z")
[http://www.sperfumes.com/pimages/n\_philosophy\_falling\_in\_love\_falling\_in\_love\_pheromone\_for\_her\_0\_12\_\_300.jpg](http://www.sperfumes.com/pimages/n_philosophy_falling_in_love_falling_in_love_pheromone_for_her_0_12__300.jpg) This it ??? Its was alcohol and DHEA I dont think they sell it anymore Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/5 "2009-03-20T18:18:34Z")
Yep, thats the one!! Too bad they don’t sell it anymore, its good stuff…I think perhaps their marketing of that particular product was weak… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/6 "2009-03-21T14:29:05Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > [http://www.sperfumes.com/pimages/n\_philosophy\_falling\_in\_love\_falling\_in\_love\_pheromone\_for\_her\_0\_12\_\_300.jpg](http://www.sperfumes.com/pimages/n_philosophy_falling_in_love_falling_in_love_pheromone_for_her_0_12__300.jpg) > > This it ??? > > Its was alcohol and DHEA I dont think they sell it anymore > > Tisha so which putative would DHEA be ? 😃😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/7 "2009-03-21T19:25:43Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > so which putative would DHEA be ? 😃😃😃 Hmm, maybe like p86? ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/8 "2009-03-21T19:55:21Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > so which putative would DHEA be ? 😃😃😃 I would say it’s more _like_ p74, but not p74. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/9 "2009-03-21T20:01:56Z")
I’m following you around, Ariadne, lol. I need to try my p74 a bit more (just got it last week, but been busy with blindbottle stuff), though what I really should do is get off my butt and get ready to go to this family thing… Now I’m wondering what would be good phero’s for that today…(its more like in-law family) I wouldn’t mind trying a tried and true mix (I know I still need to test them individually, but no time for that now 🙄) ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/10 "2009-03-21T20:04:30Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > I’m following you around, Ariadne, lol. OH NOES! ☹ 😉 > [@Sillykitty](#): > > Now I’m wondering what would be good phero’s for that today…(its more like in-law family) I wouldn’t mind trying a tried and true mix (I know I still need to test them individually, but no time for that now 🙄) Maybe Shine or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)? Do you have TAC? TAC always makes situations light hearted, happy, and giggly for me… Are the in-laws giggle-worthy? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/11 "2009-03-21T21:36:35Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > so which putative would DHEA be ? 😃😃😃 Well lets see what MHarris has had to say about DHEA over the years and maybe we can guess. > [@](#): > > Also try spraying to the hair on top of your arms. Give that bacteria something to munch on. I think that may be the most valuable function of **DHEA** based products, aside from maybe a general “glow” of health. > [@](#): > > Cutler’s formula is much more complex than mere **DHEA** , despite anyone’s claims contrary. She’s been selling it since 1993. Chinese sources of pheromones didn’t exist back then. It’s been said that her product is a little underdosed for the money, but I believe Winifred may be the only other source of American pheromones Not much to go on there but at least we know cutlers Athena has DHEA > [@](#): > > If people are getting results, it’s probably from another molecule. Probably just normal **DHEA** , as that’s certainly the most affordable “pheromone” there is (besides placebo). > [@](#): > > Anyway, **DHEA** does smell human, very human, almost like Androsterone. I’d say it’s likely to communicate _something_. If nothing else, it could be used in perfumery as a distinctly human note. > [@](#): > > Preg and **DHEA** act as good feedstock in an organics lab, and likely on your skin, too. So to me this indicates it dosnt last on your skin long. Now we can speculate LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/12 "2009-03-21T21:42:03Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > So to me this indicates it dosnt last on your skin long. Now we can speculate LOL I was going with p74-like because of the bonding effect, but maybe… TAA? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/13 "2009-03-21T22:11:25Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > So to me this indicates it dosnt last on your skin long. > > Tisha Though, the instructions are only to put a dab under one’s nose, while holding one’s breath. And I don’t remember how long it lasts, its been awhile since I’ve used it. Though I still have like 3/4 of a vial of it left. So maybe its basically a “self effect” effect, which then translates into effects on others, because, from my experience anyway, when I feel beautiful to myself, I must somehow act or behave as though I do, thus making me “appear” more beautiful to others. ---
**Author:** ![HADYOU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hadyou/32/1458_2.png) [@HADYOU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HADYOU)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/14 "2009-03-22T00:02:27Z")
🆒DHEA ( is Dehydroepiandrosterone), I happened to have a bottle of DHEA for working out it says that it supports hormone levels to be restored to your younger years that have been decreased over the years, improve vitality and energy (I got it to boost test levels a bit since I’m only 26 and lifting weights). I imagine since its airborn its different all together ---
**Author:** ![frances](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frances/32/1249_2.png) [@frances](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frances)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/15 "2009-03-22T02:12:02Z")
> [@HADYOU](#): > > 🆒DHEA ( is Dehydroepiandrosterone), I happened to have a bottle of DHEA for working out it says that it supports hormone levels to be restored to your younger years that have been decreased over the years, improve vitality and energy (I got it to boost test levels a bit since I’m only 26 and lifting weights). I imagine since its airborn its different all together Okay so what is it?? Help us Tisha! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/16 "2009-03-22T11:03:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Okay so what is it?? Help us Tisha! They dont tell me the actual chemical names LOL They are very tight lipped on that. I believe Michael and Jasmin may be the only ones who know and the rest of us go by the P# or code. I would have to guess as well. I know whats in some of the mixes by Androtics code though. My guess would be the same as ariadne’s TAA maybe in a mutated form because I recall Michael mentioning “mutated” in referance to TAA and Ishine. I used to feel the T-series was some kind of mutated EST but I have been rethinking that now the more I use EST. I think [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) is a mutated EST but thats my opinion not fact. Now what they mean by mutated I cant say for sure. I assume they have changed the chemical structure by adding something to it. The Bio gals here would know more about that. I am thinking about finding some DHEA to use and see what its like. I may take a suppliment as well because they say it keeps you young LOL Hey you gotta try to fight aging right Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/17 "2009-03-22T14:10:43Z")
i dont get EST from [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), even when i have even heard Jas reccommend it as a substitute (_clue though_) so i could be wrong but i use a ton of EST so i get it that nothing will feel similar enough to me to the mone i love. i could see TAA being similar to DHEA as it doesnt last long, but the only thing wrong with that theory is that TAA _to me_ hits me hard (why i like it) then leaves me fast (why i dont) and DHEA doesnt have a lot of kick, from what i have heard. unless TAA is DHEA to a super-level. plus,TAA doesnt smell like the “human” note Harris talks about. now TAH smells like the human note Harris mentions. _It also makes me feel beatiful_. are there putatives or experimones that are necessary in large amounts to get noticed? this leaves out quite a few of them for me, as i dont require high doses of alot of the putatives to get something.😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/18 "2009-03-22T14:13:07Z")
> [@HADYOU](#): > > 🆒DHEA ( is Dehydroepiandrosterone), I happened to have a bottle of DHEA for working out it says that it supports hormone levels to be restored to your younger years that have been decreased over the years, improve vitality and energy (I got it to boost test levels a bit since I’m only 26 and lifting weights). I imagine since its airborn its different all together are there cons to using DHEA? im not so much about increasing test,lol, but i work nights so anything that replenishes is my friend. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/19 "2009-03-22T18:37:53Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I used to feel the T-series was some kind of mutated EST but I have been rethinking that now the more I use EST. I think P74 is a mutated EST but thats my opinion not fact. > [@Lor](#): > > i dont get EST from P74, even when i have even heard Jas reccommend it as a substitute (_clue though_) so i could be wrong > but i use a ton of EST so > i get it that nothing will feel similar enough to me to the mone i love. I have thought for a bit that p74 was a metabolite of EST. If I were to guess I would say 16,17-epiestriol, because if I’m correct you can make a lot of this from a small amount of EST rather quickly and cheaply (forgetting the beginning cost of the EST itself). I think this is probably why you get a muted EST-like effect. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236/20 "2009-03-22T18:47:52Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > are there cons to using DHEA? > > im not so much about increasing test,lol, > but i work nights so anything that replenishes is my friend. There is some controversy regarding DHEA use… there is some evidence that it can increase _the risk_ of breast cancer in women, but it hasn’t been proven that it is a _cause._ It can increase testosterone levels, therefore increasing DHT levels, which can lead to hair loss. You can counteract the increase in test and DHT by supplementing with saw palmetto. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/philosophys-falling-in-love-pheromone-product/27236.md?page=2)