# Phluttering with phero's~\*~Butterfly's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844 "2008-08-19T15:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/1 "2008-08-19T15:26:58Z")
Today I tested out [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). 2 sprays of the head and neck. The smell is very fresh and can pass for a body spray. I did not notice it doing that much, really, people were friendly, but usually are. I did get off with just a warning when cycling on the wrong side of the road, which is a good thing in any case. I feel kind of tired, same as when I first tried TAH, so maybe self effects of first time use are bothering me. I’d need to try this again. Another interesting thing to mention: Yesterday I was wearing some dirty clothes with different kinds of pheros all over them, and lots of men looked at me, I got a few wolf whistles and a cute guy asked my number. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/2 "2008-08-20T07:41:21Z")
Hi there Butterfly 🙂 just thought I’d flutter by 'n say Howdy! Nice to see you’ve started a journal. You’re reactions are common for beginning users. You just need time to acclimate and you should be fine. About the TAH, how many mcgs are you using? Sometimes too much TAH can make you feel tired. It’s happened to me at high doses, even though I’m one of those gals who can wear a lot of it. Of course, everybody has different reactions even to the same molecules. You just have to keep at it, like the rest of us 🙄, and you’ll discover your sweet spot for each. And once you get a feel for them individually it’s much easier to combine them to your advantage. It takes time, a little patience and experimentation, but you’ll get there. Some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) stick/last longer than others…depending on what you were wearing…there could be some residual effect left on clothing. Looking forward to your adventures in Pheroland! 😃 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/3 "2008-08-20T08:28:56Z")
I used a perfume with TAH, so a low dose. I think I may be a bit sensitive though. ETA: I never had probs with it after that first time. I guess my brain has to adjust or something. I am indeed planning to try my sprays individually first. I’ll try some Honesty today. I figure I should try it first before wearing it to a party. Don’t want to blurt out too many personal details or something. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/4 "2008-08-20T21:22:11Z")
So today I took Honesty out shopping for groceries. At the supermarket I got one item for 65ct that did not have the price on it but was worth much more. The greengrocer gave me two free pears, when buying 3 euros worth of fruit and cucumbers. I had used HAEE’s Voodoo Punani as a cover. What a gorgeous perfume! It smells sugary-baked goods cute, with a sexy spicy undertone. Glad I have a full bottle of that now! I also got some more bpal and LPP from swaps in the mail today. I may be wearing IS/A tomorrow, with Mommy Daddy Caffeinated as a cover, an interesting coffee and cookies scent. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/5 "2008-08-20T21:23:11Z")
I did feel slightly tired with honesty, but bearable. I only used one squirt though. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/6 "2008-08-21T12:33:31Z")
I sprayed one squirt of IS/A to the back of my neck and wore the coffee perfume. I got a lot of eye contact with men, especially young guys of about 17-21, but maybe those are who are out there at this time of day mainly. Or maybe I looked young because I wore jeans. I had few self effects.I think using the back of my neck and not staying in the room where I sprayed the phero on myself helps. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/7 "2008-08-22T22:42:51Z")
I used two quirts of IS/B and a squirt of MX235 at an outdoor festival, but very little happened. I’m premenstrual now, so maybe that is the problem. I’ll try those later in my cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/8 "2008-08-25T17:38:25Z")
I think my period is making stuff not work the same way. I used IS/A with little result. I did have a nice eye contact with some cute twins but just one tiny hit is not enough to speak of a success. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/9 "2008-08-27T21:38:15Z")
I went to the fair with two good friends, wearing two squirts of IS/A. I got one guy wolf whistling me while I was waiting for my friends,then as he passed by he just shouted “I can’t help it, you just look too pretty” LOL. Then at the fair, some turning heads, smiles and eyecontact. Everyone was friendly and I had a great time. I also was able to connect well with my friends and they gave me lots of hugs! ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/10 "2008-08-31T15:38:03Z")
I told my acquaintance she could give the guy my number and he could call me on monday. Now I’m kind of scared I may have a stalker on my hands, because I suddenly have 11 missed calls from the same number… ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/11 "2008-08-31T17:47:51Z")
I used IS/B and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to the fair. I met lots of acquaintances and some very old friends, people really seemed to notice me a lot and everyone wanted to chat with me. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/12 "2008-09-05T15:06:50Z")
Ah, dear neglected journal. Thursday: I wore IS/B and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to a lecture. I got lots of guys talking to me right out of nothing. Also a ton of eye contact. The first guy I sat next to just started talking about how he hated the class, gave me lots of advice and then started hopping between talking to me and getting a bit aggressive, though not at me. He was getting really annoyed, started swearing, fidgetted around, the way people stuck in traffic can sometimes behave. In the break two guys told me everything about what movies are good, from what is now playing and what is coming soon. Then after the break I sat next to a guy who made lots of eye contact before starting to talk, I think he was young, a bit shy and also serious about the class, we talked a little bit at the end of class, about the subject of the class. In any case a pretty good mix to be approached with! Today I wore just IS/A, 3 sprays. I think I’m getting self effects because I feel like I am about to have my period while I am actually mid cycle. I bought some chocolate too. I did get some eye contact, but the class was not so filled so I did not sit right next to anyone. Perhaps I am more of a TAH girl after all. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/13 "2008-09-05T15:08:18Z")
Oh, and I have a date tonight with my stalker 🙂 We’ll be seeing a movie, I’ll just wear a little shine over this IS/A and a cheerful BPAL. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/14 "2008-09-05T21:22:13Z")
Not a good date, it did not click and I got a hole in my shoe, giving me a wet foot. I did handle thingss gracefully and managed to put my date at ease despite feeling bad myself. I think his distress was greater than mine and I felt kind of sorry for him. I also met a guy from my course while on the date who came up to me and lingered to the point of me having to gently tell him I’d speak to him later and not now. That did prove some success of the pheros, but left my date significantly uneasy, and it was difficult putting him at ease again. ---
**Author:** ![schell0385](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/schell0385/32/199_2.png) [@schell0385](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schell0385)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/15 "2008-09-05T21:54:15Z")
Hi there Butterfly…in Santa Cruz I have visited the butterfly trees that are loaded from top to bottom with thousands of Monarch butterflies,there is just nothing like seeing these living butterfly trees. They are incredibly beautiful and you just cannot stop staring. I am curious in your posts you have mentioned receiving ‘eye contact’ from people…at what distances? Are you actually close enough to them that your phero’s are reaching them or is the eye contact because you are just too cute…lol What dosages did you say you are using? At what point have you become tired? I became very tired after using three spray of TAL the first time. Today I used two sprays and have been just fine. I have read studies on science web sites that larger doses of pheromones can make a person “let down” after they start to wear off…estratetraenol being one of those…so it is nice to use it in a mix that extends the results and does not give you quite the let down feeling. Reps for your posting and keep testing. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/16 "2008-09-05T22:12:13Z")
That is awesome, butterfly trees! I can hardy imagine the beauty of such a thing! I use two or three sprays usually, and get eyecontact from nearby people mostly. I’m someone who does not really look at faraway people anyway. If I say eyecontact, I mean more than usual. I also wore normal, casual outfits mostly, and not much makeup. I guess pheros in general over just perfume have an effect much like wearing a red dress with heels over jeans and a white t-shirt. I may try a cute dress plus pheros tomorrow. I’m spending the day in Amsterdam, so no heels but flats. I can add a bit of red lipstick and see what happens in a sexier, but still modest outfit. I think the tiredness sets in after a few hours, though with higher doses or a new thing I find myself experiencing self effects, I guess my brain must get accustomed. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/17 "2008-09-05T22:12:42Z")
And thanks for responding, it is nice to know someone is reading this! ---
**Author:** ![schell0385](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/schell0385/32/199_2.png) [@schell0385](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schell0385)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/18 "2008-09-06T00:50:45Z")
I am starting my testing journal. It is a Phero State of Mind. Take a look you might find something in there helpful. Let me know how it goes in Amster.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/19 "2008-09-06T18:48:13Z")
Well, I was approached by only one guy, but he was incredibly handsome and charming. We had a nice smooth conversation that actually had some depth and closeness to it. He was pretty disappointed to hear I lived so far from him. Anyway, I enjoyed meeting him and the time we spent together for its own sake. I also got really nice, sunny weather, found a bargain and ate some tasty food. What a happy day! ---
**Author:** ![schell0385](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/schell0385/32/199_2.png) [@schell0385](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schell0385)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844/20 "2008-09-06T20:20:52Z")
What phero’s were you wearing? Where did you go to eat?😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phluttering-with-pheros-butterflys-journal/17844.md?page=2)