# Placebo effect? Or are Pheros really this powerful? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 4, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placebo-effect-or-are-pheros-really-this-powerful/13517 "2008-06-04T21:38:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bluesteal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@bluesteal](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bluesteal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placebo-effect-or-are-pheros-really-this-powerful/13517/1 "2008-06-04T21:38:15Z")
Hi there, Firstly I’d like to say a BIG thank you for the additional TOGO [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) that was given along with my order. Out of all the ones i’m trying Instant Honesty I prefer the most. I’ve only been trying them for two days, but already some intersting things are happening. I’m wonudering if this is a placebo effect, or the phero’s, or both… or perhaps just coincidence. Day One: in the evening I headed off to a outdoor poi meetup, followed my a pub trip. 1 spray of IFM to back of neck, 1 spray of TUTH to chest, 1 Instant Honesty to the wrists. In a matter of minutes after I arrived, a girl there came straight up to me and started conversation. We chatted for ages and played around with the poi / fire staff bits and bobs there. And a few times during mid conversation, she would stand there with this blank expression with her eyes open, slight twinkle. Im pretty sure what I was saying wasn’t too boring! So again, I found this rather strange. Perhaps she was stoned? she also got noticeably upset when i announced i was leaving for the pub. Then again in the pub with my friends, a girl on opposite table keeps eyeing me up. Which I probably should of made a move on… but ce la vie. Also my friends, who rarely want to do anything else but sit in the pub, after I suggested hanging out in the park and outdoors, were more than happy to come along. Day Two: Instant Honesty I tried yesterday at work, properly for the first time. just 2 sprays. 1 to wrists, 1 to back of neck. When i got to work, within 30 minutes my boss was alot more happier than normal, I felt extremely relaxed, most relaxing day I’ve had at work for ages. Also throughout the day, my boss (male), made quite a few trips to my desk to walk through things i’ve been doing,praise my progress etc… He very very rarely ventures to my desk, let alone over to my side and sits next to me. Yet on this day he comes over several times. I found this rather strange. Later in the evening, I ended up going to a bar with my two female flat mates and one of their boyfriends. I added 1 IFM to back of neck, and 1 TUTH to chest. Some of the conversation they came out with was pretty loaded with sexual inuendo’s, which is first time thats happened in the many times I’ve been out with them. Perhaps this was due to a couple cocktails before I arrived? Then when we get in the car to drive back to the flat, the flat mate and her boyfriend were in the front, leaving me and my other flat mate in the back seat. Instead of her sitting in the standard seat. She has to sit in the middle, leaning right up against me. saying “i like to be close to you… i hope you dont mind…” Thats a first that my flat mate has said that! I read more intersting stories on these forums, but usually they involve several sprays of several pheros to all over the body. I’m on very low dosages and already this behaviour is obvious. Are pheros really this powerful?! Or am I overly seeking for signs the pheros are working? Thanks for taking the time to read, I’ve written an essay! Comments, suggestion on smaller / higher dosages, application points etc etc all very much appreciated. p.s Love the smell of Instant Honesty, very pleasant and relaxing. Hate the smell of TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placebo-effect-or-are-pheros-really-this-powerful/13517/2 "2008-06-04T22:17:47Z")
Lucky you, your age could possibly be playing a roll, but it sounds like the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) are working there magic. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placebo-effect-or-are-pheros-really-this-powerful/13517/3 "2008-06-04T22:50:16Z")
> [@bluesteal](#): > > Are pheros really this powerful?! Or am I overly seeking for signs the pheros are working? It’s probably a combination of several factors: First, you are paying more attention and actively looking for IOI’s, whereas before some may have slipped by you. Second, the pheros are doing what they are supposed to, which is to communicate social messages. Third, the pheros also provide for self-effects, and it’s likely that the None in Turn Up The Heat probably helped to make you a bit more aggressive or commanding of attention, and the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) was helping you to keep conversations interesting. Finally, there’s always a possibility for some placebo effect. Especially if you’ve seen some reactions and then build upon those reactions. As has been said many times in the forum, pheromones can help grease the wheels, but it’s up to you to provide the power to make them turn. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placebo-effect-or-are-pheros-really-this-powerful/13517/4 "2008-06-05T02:54:42Z")
I usually use fairly low doses and notice “unusual” reactions. Check out my journal sometime. I like to get reactions that are just subtle enough to notice, but not so blatant that things start to look wierd. If you seriously want “results” though, you probably need more sprays, but you don’t always want blatant results because I’ve seen some people get a little nervous. You know like Rod Serling was going to walk in at any moment and tell them how they just crossed over into… the Twilight Zone 🙂 Instant Honesty in low doses doesn’t seem to make people spill their guts… it’s a wierd effect that’s hard to describe. Sort of a quieter version of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)… it makes you look mysterious and interesting, and possibly trustworthy. Sometimes I use both, mixing them in a small atomizer 50/50 (sometimes diluted with cologne) with good results just trying to “attract” peoples attention (“hey, I’m interesting… come look at me”). Instant Openness, or even alpha-androstenol (even moreso) seems to make people chatty, and up the dosage and you start to feel spacey/altered.