# Placed order!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 31, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348 "2006-12-31T07:22:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Asiandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asiandude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asiandude)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/1 "2006-12-31T07:22:17Z")

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I finally gathered enough money to purchase several products from smartmones, here is what I got:

A314  
Turn up the Heat  
[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)  
Instant Shine  
Ammunition  
Come talk to Me 2

For a hefty 300CAD, I really hope that this stuff works, or else I am afraid that I would give up pheromones forever. I would regularly update this board once the products arrive. If anyone have any pointers on how to wear them, please tell me, Thanks.

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**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/2 "2006-12-31T07:28:56Z")

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1. Place them on your pulse points: neck, base of neck, below the ear, wrists.
2. Apply A314 to skin ONLY: in order for the oil to diffuse, heat is needed
3. Sprays can be used on either skin or clothing
4. If you are using TUTH, use only 1 spray when going out
5. Dont apply IFM to where you can smell it
6. Dont mix Ammunition and TUTH untill you have a better feel what each does or else you might OD
7. Try testing out each product one at a time for an extended period of time, changing dosages and application points to see how they affect you, and others
8. Apply [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to your neck to affect you, to your hair/wrists/crook of forearms to affect others
9. Overdosing on CTTM2 and IS is alot of fun (8 sprays EACH) - It got me buzzed for a good bit… which hasnt happened with just plain IS
10. Learn to read body language and subtle hints
11. Enjoy

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**Author:** ![Asiandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asiandude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asiandude)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/3 "2006-12-31T09:35:55Z")

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how would you know when you are overdosed on a certain product? And how can overdose on CTTM2 and IS fun? Thanks

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**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/4 "2006-12-31T18:46:58Z")

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well you can tell you OD’d on androstenone by examining how people react to you. Look up other posts about people oding on it.

ODing on Instant Shine and [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 makes everyone happy and cheerful. AFAIK, it makes you the LIFE of the party. going to test out an OD on those two tonight.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/5 "2007-01-02T01:08:47Z")

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> [@BlazingAzn88](#):
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> …  
> ODing on Instant Shine and Come Talk To Me Mix 2 makes everyone happy and cheerful. AFAIK, it makes you the LIFE of the party. going to test out an OD on those two tonight.

And if we never hear from you again we will have a pretty good idea of why…  
😛

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/6 "2007-01-02T01:40:47Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> And if we never hear from you again we will have a pretty good idea of why…  
> 😛

lol I actually wanna see how this went.

Hey Asiandude, what are your goals with pheromones…how old are you, and what environments will you be wearing pheromones? Are you looking for a serious relationship? Maybe have a certain someone in mind? Or are you looking for something to simply have fun with?

This will give us a better idea of how might use what you’ve got

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**Author:** ![Asiandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asiandude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asiandude)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/7 "2007-01-02T02:51:58Z")

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I am 18 years old and I will be using Pheromones primarilly to obtain a degree of respect from students and staff of the University. Having said that, it is probably going to be used mainly in classrooms. Even if I am looking to have a serious relationship, it is highly unlikely that I would use pheromones. I was wondering if you should wear colongue with pheromones or not. I heard that Carlord17 is making the MX190 and MX191 and am very interested in purchasing them, does anyone know where to get them? Thanks

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/8 "2007-01-02T04:01:06Z")

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Oh yeah thats right…you told me all of this already (sorry its hard to keep up with everyone sometimes)

Definately spend some time experimenting with these products by themselves so you can get a feel for things…

but based on your situation and the products you have:

A314, Instant Shine, and [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) 2 should do really well for you around the classroom. A314 will certainly you garner respect, as it will make you seem older, wiser…simply ‘above’ the rest of the people around you. This can be a double edged sword too…as it can be a little _too old,_ setting you apart from younger people to the point of alienating you…so definately be mindful when you use it.

CTTM2 will help open everyone up to you…the beta androstenol in it will make people feel more comfortable around you, and more quickly gain their trust.

so maybe…

A314 - 2 drops  
CTTM2 - 3 sprays  
Is - 3 sprays

More A314 and less CTTM2 and IS if you want something a little more serious, Less A314 and more CTTM2 and IS if you want something a little more sociable.

You have some good sexual products at your disposal too…you mind if I ask why you wouldn’t consider them for a relationship?

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**Author:** ![TheSaint97](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thesaint97/32/2454_2.png) [@TheSaint97](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheSaint97)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/9 "2007-01-02T04:50:48Z")

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I wish you best of luck with your purchase and experimentation. I don’t think a fair conclusion on whether or not pheromones will work for can be made until a few months have passed. Repeated exposure strengthens the effects I believe.. Wearing them in a classroom and work enviroment are great ways to test certain pheromones. You see the same people almost everyday and you can notice instant results and then the more gradual. However, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t consider using them for relationships because what man doesn’t want to be more intimate with the woman he loves 🙂 Good luck on everything and be sure to update us!

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**Author:** ![Asiandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asiandude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asiandude)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/10 "2007-01-02T09:51:41Z")

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The reason why I won’t use pheromones as a source of my relationship is because I believe that manipulating or influencing someone using anything other than your true personality just to get sex is not really my style. It is also the primary reason why I have never had a girlfriend before. If I wanted to be in a serious relationship with a girl, I would make sure that it is with a person that I would love for the rest of my life and that she would stay with me through all the hardships and cherish with me all the good times we go through together. If I had used pheromones to obtain a girlfriend, can I really make sure that she liked me for who I really was or does she really like me for the product I am wearing? Personally, I also despise the idea that men have multiple sexual partners in his lifetime. Even if such a statement is probably correct, I believe that people should have only one sexual partner in their lifetime and it is to be with the person that they love the most, sexual interactions with anyone else is just temporary gratification and there is no emotional feelings involved. Personally, I can’t even think of having sex with a person who I have just met, so I won’t be using pheromones to get laid. LOL, having said that, am I too old fashioned? Thanks for the quick reply guys, I really appreciate it.

PS. This pose contains my personal opinions only, sorry if it rubs people in the wrong way.

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**Author:** ![TheSaint97](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thesaint97/32/2454_2.png) [@TheSaint97](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheSaint97)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/11 "2007-01-02T10:07:22Z")

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> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> The reason why I won’t use pheromones as a source of my relationship is because I believe that manipulating or influencing someone using anything other than your true personality just to get sex is not really my style. It is also the primary reason why I have never had a girlfriend before. If I wanted to be in a serious relationship with a girl, I would make sure that it is with a person that I would love for the rest of my life and that she would stay with me through all the hardships and cherish with me all the good times we go through together. If I had used pheromones to obtain a girlfriend, can I really make sure that she liked me for who I really was or does she really like me for the product I am wearing? Personally, I also despise the idea that men have multiple sexual partners in his lifetime. Even if such a statement is probably correct, I believe that people should have only one sexual partner in their lifetime and it is to be with the person that they love the most, sexual interactions with anyone else is just temporary gratification and there is no emotional feelings involved. Personally, I can’t even think of having sex with a person who I have just met, so I won’t be using pheromones to get laid. LOL, having said that, am I too old fashioned? Thanks for the quick reply guys, I really appreciate it.
> 
> PS. This pose contains my personal opinions only, sorry if it rubs people in the wrong way.

Well, I think you are a great guy for what you just stated.. I personally agree with some of the things you stated about relationships.. I don’t really agree that all of us guys who use pheromones are just trying to get laid.. Certain pheromones may have that characteristic which appeals sexually to women, but from the posts I’ve read some guys are using pheromones when they are in a relationship to help their girlfriend open up more socially and be at ease.. It’s not just about sex. I mainly like to use them so not only the people I talk to(men and women) feel at ease around me but that I too can benefit from a more relaxed enviroment.. Anyways, let us know how your experimentation works.. Thanks for the feedback!

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/12 "2007-01-02T17:22:34Z")

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> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> The reason why I won’t use pheromones as a source of my relationship is because I believe that manipulating or influencing someone using anything other than your true personality just to get sex is not really my style.
> 
> If I had used pheromones to obtain a girlfriend, can I really make sure that she liked me for who I really was or does she really like me for the product I am wearing?

Its a common misconception that pheromones will manipulate or influence someone to an unreasonable extent. While pheromones can affect a person’s mood around you in a way that is advantageous, they will not influence or manipulate someone to act against their will. Ethical dilemna’s aside, I’m sure most of us wish it really were that easy.

Pheromones are merely enhancers of appeal, and enhancers of mood, rather that _manipulators_ of appeal, or _manipulators_ of mood. They enhance and bring out existing notions of what is attractive, what is respectful, etc etc…they will not instill these notions in others if there is no basis for a person to feel this way around you. There needs to be some substance behind the way a person feels under the presence of pheromones, in order for the reactions to take place.

Pheromones work best though, because they create opportunities by opening up people to you. They allow people to see characteristics in you that they might have otherwise overlooked. While these opportunities are created by pheromones, its still up to you to embrace these opportunities, give more substance to how a person feels around you, and make something great happen.

When it comes to long-term relationships…the feelings and sensations that allow these relationships to function are founded on much more than pheromones alone. The effects of pheromones are momentary, and yes a little superficial…but they allow people a better opportunity to create the moments and experiences that affect people in a more substantial, long-term way… this is true whether the end result is sex, a long-term relationship..etc etc.

> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> Personally, I also despise the idea that men have multiple sexual partners in his lifetime. Even if such a statement is probably correct, I believe that people should have only one sexual partner in their lifetime and it is to be with the person that they love the most, sexual interactions with anyone else is just temporary gratification and there is no emotional feelings involved. Personally, I can’t even think of having sex with a person who I have just met, so I won’t be using pheromones to get laid. LOL, having said that, am I too old fashioned? Thanks for the quick reply guys, I really appreciate it.
> 
> PS. This pose contains my personal opinions only, sorry if it rubs people in the wrong way.

Its a respectful way of life, I think. You’re true to what you believe..can’t hate on that.

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**Author:** ![Asiandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asiandude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asiandude)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/13 "2007-01-02T21:26:29Z")

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I didn’t say that all guys use pheromones just to get sex, however, it cannot be disregarded that there are certainly people who takes this chemical into their own advantage. I am willing to use pheromones to increase my respect in University because it is physically impossible with my personality alone. People are much more materialistic rather than idealistic, thus, it is really quite difficult to gain status unless you are either extremely rich or extremely handsome. However, I do not possess either of these qualities so the only course of action that I can possibly undertake to gain some status is by using pheromones. I know that this respect and status I gained is really nothing more than the product that I am wearing, and I would lose it all when I don’t wear it anymore. However, I could care less about how people who don’t know me think about me.

Relationships are another principle here. I do not plan on using pheromones to be the ignition of my relationship with someone. Although pheromones indeed do not influence or manipulate someone against their will, the fact cannot overlook that they change a person’s perception of who you really are on a subconscious level. In case you are wondering why I bought the Ammunition, Turn up the Heat, and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) even though I stated that I won’t be using them to appeal to females. Here is the answer: Pheromones are sex hormones that haven’t been discovered for a very long period of time, and there haven’t exactly been highly funded researches done to indicate their effects and side effects. Therefore, it can be determined that Synthetic Human Pheromones are a product that possesses a variable effect along with person to person. Therefore, I bought those three products I mentioned above for their whole effect, not just attraction of females. This way, I can effectively determine for a fact whether or not pheromones work for me or not.

Sorry if this seems to be too direct, however, I find it challenging to write something that is implicating the ideas that I need to get through because of my scientific field of study. Thanks for your opinions and fast responses, I really appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/14 "2007-01-02T23:26:46Z")

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> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> I didn’t say that all guys use pheromones just to get sex, however, it cannot be disregarded that there are certainly people who takes this chemical into their own advantage. I am willing to use pheromones to increase my respect in University because it is physically impossible with my personality alone. People are much more materialistic rather than idealistic, thus, it is really quite difficult to gain status unless you are either extremely rich or extremely handsome. However, I do not possess either of these qualities so the only course of action that I can possibly undertake to gain some status is by using pheromones. I know that this respect and status I gained is really nothing more than the product that I am wearing, and I would lose it all when I don’t wear it anymore. However, I could care less about how people who don’t know me think about me.
> 
> Relationships are another principle here. I do not plan on using pheromones to be the ignition of my relationship with someone. Although pheromones indeed do not influence or manipulate someone against their will, the fact cannot overlook that they change a person’s perception of who you really are on a subconscious level.

I (respectfully) disagree. I don’t believe pheromones can change who you are at all…at least not to a significant enough extent to question how somoene _really_ feels about you. In fact if there isn’t enough congruency between how people _consciously_ _percieve you_ (your actions, your appearance, andtheir experience with you), and how they _unconsciously_ _percieve the pheromones_, the mixes tend not to work.

There needs to be existing substance behind how people feel when pheromones are present, otherwise they would likely not feel anything at all. This is the case with social and respect type mixes, however its _especially_ true with sexual/attraction type mixes. This is the very reason sexual/attraction mixes have far less consistency than social and respect mixes…there are too many variables that affect the success of these mixes (women being attracted to you), outside of the actual pheromone content of the mix.

There is far more going on between two people who are attracted to each other than pheromones alone…even when [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are present. Ultimately pheromones can create opportunity, but they alone cannot create attraction. When a woman is attracted to me while I wear synthetic pheromones, I never forget the fact that she is attracted to _me (as I truly am)_ and not the pheromones themselves. If I didn’t truly believe such to be true, then I couldn’t, in my right mind, subject women to them either.

> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> Sorry if this seems to be too direct, however, I find it challenging to write something that is implicating the ideas that I need to get through because of my scientific field of study. Thanks for your opinions and fast responses, I really appreciate it.

It isn’t too direct at all. Let us know how it goes.

-Sig

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**Author:** ![Asiandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asiandude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asiandude)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/15 "2007-01-03T02:29:22Z")

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This conversation should not be to serious because I have no experiances on pheromones previously, so I am basically making speculations on their effects without prior knowledge, Perhaps I will change my mind about them after I get to try them, lol.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/16 "2007-01-03T04:27:44Z")

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> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> This conversation should not be to serious because I have no experiances on pheromones previously, so I am basically making speculations on their effects without prior knowledge, Perhaps I will change my mind about them after I get to try them, lol.

haha its all good man. even with experience everyone ends up with different results and theories. This just happens to be mine. [Pheromone](https://a314.com/) use in general is very experimental, and a lot of times, hypothetical. In this context, good conversational debate is healthy. I think experience, at times, can pre-program expectations and percieved results.

Anyway good luck with everything. Again, let us know how it goes

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**Author:** ![bish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bish)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/17 "2007-02-08T01:47:36Z")

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lol thats funny

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**Author:** ![Pharcyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Pharcyde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pharcyde)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/18 "2007-02-08T01:57:54Z")

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> [@Asiandude](#):
>
> The reason why I won’t use pheromones as a source of my relationship is because I believe that manipulating or influencing someone using anything other than your true personality just to get sex is not really my style. It is also the primary reason why I have never had a girlfriend before. If I wanted to be in a serious relationship with a girl, I would make sure that it is with a person that I would love for the rest of my life and that she would stay with me through all the hardships and cherish with me all the good times we go through together. If I had used pheromones to obtain a girlfriend, can I really make sure that she liked me for who I really was or does she really like me for the product I am wearing? Personally, I also despise the idea that men have multiple sexual partners in his lifetime. Even if such a statement is probably correct, I believe that people should have only one sexual partner in their lifetime and it is to be with the person that they love the most, sexual interactions with anyone else is just temporary gratification and there is no emotional feelings involved. Personally, I can’t even think of having sex with a person who I have just met, so I won’t be using pheromones to get laid. LOL, having said that, am I too old fashioned? Thanks for the quick reply guys, I really appreciate it.
> 
> PS. This pose contains my personal opinions only, sorry if it rubs people in the wrong way.

im of like mind, i dont see much difference between using pheromones and alcohol. i just got turned down today by a girl ive been crushing on for a year who recently broke up with her guy (like 3 months ago), so i have justified using mones to help get a 1st date when my order arrives.

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**Author:** ![HeinzHummer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/heinzhummer/32/941_2.png) [@HeinzHummer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HeinzHummer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/19 "2007-02-08T02:05:41Z")

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1. Dont apply [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to where you can smell it

And why not do this?

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**Author:** ![HeinzHummer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/heinzhummer/32/941_2.png) [@HeinzHummer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HeinzHummer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/placed-order/1348/20 "2007-02-08T02:18:15Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
>
> haha its all good man. even with experience everyone ends up with different results and theories. This just happens to be mine. Pheromone use in general is very experimental, and a lot of times, hypothetical. In this context, good conversational debate is healthy. I think experience, at times, can pre-program expectations and percieved results.
> 
> Anyway good luck with everything. Again, let us know how it goes

Sigma you are wise. There is something in the water in Houston that makes you superhuman. I already repped you once, however, i must spread the love, but if i could, i would do it again.

I totally agree with you when you say that pheromone use and experimentation is based on the hypothetical. Also, Experience within one’s own context will ultimately determine one’s own unique experience to pheromone usage. In other words, your own pheromone: usage/mix/environment/context/skills etc., etc., have alot to do with what the outcome is. There are way too many variables to account for when one is a newbie, HOWEVER, with each pheromonally laden experience, the subtleties become much more clear. So all I can say is keep at it and you will learn with each experience, JUST STAY POSITIVE! Okay, enough from the noob. What about everyone else?  
HH 😃

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