# Please clarify content in the consumer line **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 17, 2011, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267 "2011-07-17T08:30:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Propaganda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@Propaganda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Propaganda)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/1 "2011-07-17T08:30:26Z")
Please help me take my understanding and ability to experiment to the next level by clarifying the actual ratio of the various pheromones dispersed in the instant line. I understand some portion of the pheromone content will remain undisclosed, which is fine, however if it could be stated at what percentage they occupy the mix that would be fantastic. Based on information gathered on the forums these are my **assumptions** to the **general content** of the instant line: (updated) IO - 70% alpha -nol / 30% beta -nol [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) - 30% alpha -nol / 70% beta -nol Ammo - equal parts -Androsterone , -rone, and -nol (same amount of -none as in IJ) TUTH - primarily -Androsterone / steering molecules IJ - primarily-Androsterone (80% -none / 20% undisclosed) (same amount of -none as in AMMO) IG - primarily-rone (83% -Androsterone / 16% undisclosed) Instant Shine - primarily TAA / helper molecules My references: > [@Alter ego or AMMO?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/2): > > Alter Ego seems to be 2 parts None to one part Rone and 1.5 parts Nol. Whereas [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is equal parts of all three making it imo more well buffered and versatile. Usually the best way to avoid a None OD is to have more socials in terms of total mcg than None. Alter Ego has more none than anything else and thus imo would likely be easier to OD on if used as a standalone. > [@Ammo vs Turn Up the Heat: with the same none, when would you choose TUTH?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat/9036): > > So I’m pretty new to this forum and I know this topic has probably been discussed already. I’ve been recommended by a few of the more veteran pheromone users that as a general rule of thumb they prefer Ammo over [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). I was also told that they both contain the same amount of 'none. In that case, what are the scenarios, if any, that you would use Turn Up the Heat over Ammo. Thanks in advance everybody! > [@Is Instant Gentleman sexual, does it increase introversion?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-instant-gentleman-sexual-does-it-increase-introversion/189874/14): > > Thank you for your opinion Bob. There is nothing “going on” between myself and GW. I have respect for the man and his opinions and I always have. He did single me out though so I felt the need to point out why I made those comments. Every users situation is different especially in the intro section when your just starting out. He mentioned I have corrected him. I gave my opinion and yes I did say “I don’t know why people are suggesting IG” in that one thread because I really felt it wasn’t the … ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/2 "2011-07-17T15:11:16Z")
TUTH actually has the same none content as [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) but its steering molecules are determinedly sexual rather than balancing. Both have double quantity in their respective “heavy” versions. So that works out around 2.5 in standard and 5mcg of none in “heavy” per spray, can’t remember the total for the bottle but you can approximate by multiplying by 200 for a 30ml. IJ - **Does not contain cops!** They were taken out a good while back. and its none proortion is around 80% - Approx 12.5mcg out of 15mcg total per spray. IS is mainly TAA plus compounds that help make it last. TAA’s issue is that it is one of the shortest acting pheros and on its own, a dose only lasts about an hour. The IS formula prolongs this to around three hours, albeit at the expense of a slight loss in TAA potency. ---
**Author:** ![Propaganda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@Propaganda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Propaganda)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/3 "2011-07-17T18:17:49Z")
Thanks, I updated the list. Any other corrections are most welcome ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/4 "2011-07-17T20:37:06Z")
Keep in mind that unless you can cite specific threads where MHarris, Jasmin, or myself have said whats in a product - you are pretty much taking a shot in the dark. I just want to be clear to new people that what you’ve posted is purely theoretical. I don’t need the liability of people thinking you’re posting facts and taking that as whats in the product they are buying. Again, unless whatever you have has a citation from myself, Jasmin, or Harris. ---
**Author:** ![Propaganda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@Propaganda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Propaganda)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/5 "2011-07-17T20:43:03Z")
Thanks, but the whole point of my thread is to receive clarification on my assumptions. If it is possible would you make corrections to my current assumptions. As stated I don’t expect a full disclosure of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) per product, just a enough information to make well informed decisions as well as to experiment and make documentations based on near fact vs. a shot in the dark of the content in the various products. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/6 "2011-07-17T22:03:04Z")
> [@Propaganda](#): > > Thanks, but the whole point of my thread is to receive clarification on my assumptions. If it is possible would you make corrections to my current assumptions. As stated I don’t expect a full disclosure of pheromones per product, just a enough information to make well informed decisions as well as to experiment and make documentations based on near fact vs. a shot in the dark of the content in the various products. What we are willing to disclose has already been posted online in either the store under its respective product or the forum. Everything else is speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Propaganda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@Propaganda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Propaganda)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/please-clarify-content-in-the-consumer-line/51267/7 "2011-07-17T22:21:49Z")
Yes, I get that. All I am trying to do is to make the best speculation possible within reason. Despite searching the forums and reading for hours on end, data seems to be haphazardly dispersed over thousands of threads, and it’s rather difficult to collect current data efficiently. If anyone has ran across such data I am all ears. =)