# POLL: Do you want MX297 to be released in 30mL version?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 8, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937 "2009-12-08T19:04:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sharpy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharpy/32/347_2.png) [@Sharpy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sharpy)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/61 "2010-12-13T07:01:07Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> I did have a great result. I had a few girls at bars INITIATE convo and stuff.
> 
> two down sides:  
> I had a couple guys talking down on me. When I wore ammo and IG around them, that went away. In fact, tehy respected me more than I even wanted 🆒  
> some girls don’t take you seriously; at least sexually… I guess I should add some TUTH or MX389 😃

That is so interesting, about using it on its own, that also happened to me. (…guys talking down to me…)  
I also used ammo and IG, but I also had A314 at the neck.

2 weeks later; I replaced the A314, with 1X TAF; 2X P86; 2X P102 ( all standard doses ) Although I don’t sit around waiting for ‘hits’ (…because ‘hits’ generally just don’t happen!! And if you call someone smiling at you a hit… you’re going nowhere!) I pursue whom I’m going after, and I have so much more sex because of either [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), or MX353 as the base of my mix. 😉

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/62 "2010-12-13T16:34:05Z")

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got to bust it out again… better yet, I will SPRAY them on my friends, so I get the social proof… lol… I will wear ammo and a bit of A314… so i will be like the sexy leader that knows a VERY COOL GUY 😃

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**Author:** ![Sharpy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharpy/32/347_2.png) [@Sharpy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sharpy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/63 "2010-12-14T11:57:47Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> got to bust it out again… better yet, I will SPRAY them on my friends, so I get the social proof… lol… I will wear ammo and a bit of A314… so i will be like the sexy leader that knows a VERY COOL GUY 😃

Whoa. FUCKING WHOA!.. Gimme a second here, please.  
AAAARGH!! My head almost exploded! 😃  
That is extraordinary.  
You know that would work, don’t you?  
The picture… a group of ‘stand out’ people in a crowded bar, and one stands out even more-so!

Talk about being completely in-control of your immediate environment!

That is …ingenious…

I can’t BELIEVE that idea has never crossed my mind!! 😮  
I’m… 😕  
_…speechless!_

Yeah… that’s the word I’m looking for!  
…

…um…

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…hm…

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NUP! …I got nothing… (LOL) 😃

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**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/64 "2010-12-14T13:43:19Z")

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Or just hang-out with high-status alphas whilst wearing A314, etc.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/65 "2010-12-14T16:45:34Z")

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> [@Sharpy](#):
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> Whoa. FUCKING WHOA!.. Gimme a second here, please.  
> AAAARGH!! My head almost exploded! 😃  
> That is extraordinary.  
> You know that would work, don’t you?  
> The picture… a group of ‘stand out’ people in a crowded bar, and one stands out even more-so!
> 
> Talk about being completely in-control of your immediate environment!
> 
> That is …ingenious…
> 
> I can’t BELIEVE that idea has never crossed my mind!! 😮  
> I’m… 😕  
> _…speechless!_
> 
> Yeah… that’s the word I’m looking for!  
> …
> 
> …um…
> 
> …
> 
> …hm…
> 
> …
> 
> NUP! …I got nothing… (LOL) 😃

Is this a joke? lol… Actually, I tried this before… a couple of my friends are really shy. I put some A314 and some masculine mones on them, while I wore some Ammo and IS… I sat on the table and talked with them for awhile…  
I saw all these women AND men looking at our way! Of course, I, not being shy and like talking to girls did all the approaching and talking, while my friends looked on… They sure made me look good 😃

A mad social proof: I am cool and sexy that even rich, high-status A314 men want to hang with me, lol…  
Now, I just need to find a cute girl that is willing to let me spray some ISa and couplin on her, so I get even more social proof…

thank goodness, my friends don’t believe in mones, so they can’t even think I am a pervert, hahahah  
of course, they are really timid and shy around hot girls, so yeah, mones didn’t work out too well for them 😉

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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/66 "2010-12-14T17:35:15Z")

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I will actually Take MX390… I own too much akuto ☹ but 30ml would be the best present ever!!!

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/67 "2010-12-14T19:18:18Z")

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Ok. Let me say this again, but I’m going to start just listing the hundreds of posts I made next time 😛

MXs are not released in 30 mL due to their experimental nature. We can not exhaust the supply that quickly purely because of demand. It is released in small quantities for a reason. Unless you want the molecules inside 297 to fall to the same fate as [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and other putative that are now out of stock. 😜

When an MX gets the esteemed pleasure of becoming a full product, then it can be a 30 mL. However if you guys want that to happen you need to start reporting properly. Not this “Let me spray everything on at once and mix it with sweat-sock scent (copulins) and let me pour cat urine all over my body too”. That data doesn’t help us, which means we can’t even think of upgrading the MXs you want to become permanent.

You need to work with us here, people 😛

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/68 "2010-12-14T19:24:18Z")

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> [@John Sebastian](#):
>
> Ok. Let me say this again, but I’m going to start just listing the hundreds of posts I made next time 😛
> 
> MXs are not released in 30 mL due to their experimental nature. We can not exhaust the supply that quickly purely because of demand. It is released in small quantities for a reason. Unless you want the molecules inside 297 to fall to the same fate as P75 and other putative that are now out of stock. 😜
> 
> When an MX gets the esteemed pleasure of becoming a full product, then it can be a 30 mL. However if you guys want that to happen you need to start reporting properly. Not this "Let me spray everything on at once and mix it with sweat-sock scent (copulins) and **let me pour cat urine all over my body too"**. That data doesn’t help us, which means we can’t even think of upgrading the MXs you want to become permanent.
> 
> You need to work with us here, people 😛

You don’t like the smell of cat piss? 😛

For what it’s worth, I’ve opted to back to basics and start off testing everything on stand alone first. A shame it’s so damn cold out here because the hits ain’t coming ☹ But yea, I’m fine with the togo bottles, especially if it helps keep other items in stock.

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**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/69 "2010-12-14T19:27:28Z")

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> [@John Sebastian](#):
>
> Ok. Let me say this again, but I’m going to start just listing the hundreds of posts I made next time 😛
> 
> MXs are not released in 30 mL due to their experimental nature. We can not exhaust the supply that quickly purely because of demand. It is released in small quantities for a reason. Unless you want the molecules inside 297 to fall to the same fate as P75 and other putative that are now out of stock. 😜
> 
> When an MX gets the esteemed pleasure of becoming a full product, then it can be a 30 mL. However if you guys want that to happen you need to start reporting properly. Not this “Let me spray everything on at once and mix it with sweat-sock scent (copulins) and let me pour cat urine all over my body too”. That data doesn’t help us, which means we can’t even think of upgrading the MXs you want to become permanent.
> 
> You need to work with us here, people 😛

A small shift in topic…  
I’m new here. In recent years, have any experimental products become part of the product line?

I have no interest in exp mixes. I’m feeling that it is better to wait until they are released with a detailed description of their purpose of use.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/70 "2010-12-15T08:45:16Z")

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> [@jackslater](#):
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> A small shift in topic…  
> I’m new here. In recent years, have any experimental products become part of the product line?
> 
> I have no interest in exp mixes. I’m feeling that it is better to wait until they are released with a detailed description of their purpose of use.

We don’t always reveal when it has. But I can tell you that products you see today are all refined from experimental product in one way or another. For example A314 Sprays A & B as well as A314 Rev 23 (the current oil version used) all benefited from experimental products.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/71 "2010-12-15T16:27:06Z")

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> [@jackslater](#):
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> A small shift in topic…  
> I’m new here. In recent years, have any experimental products become part of the product line?
> 
> I have no interest in exp mixes. I’m feeling that it is better to wait until they are released with a detailed description of their purpose of use.

Nice avatar! you into gothic girls?

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**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/72 "2010-12-15T16:35:45Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> Nice avatar! you into gothic girls?

It depends on if they lie often or not.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/73 "2010-12-15T16:37:29Z")

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> [@jackslater](#):
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> It depends on if they lie often or not.

Well, all girls are “liars” , I guess 😛

haven’t seen a blonde goth before though

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/e/e74beb02d10006f79e706fa33caf637b85e83a58.gif) ](https://edge.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/laughy.gif)

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**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/74 "2010-12-15T16:39:01Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> Well, all girls are “liars” , I guess 😛
> 
> haven’t seen a blonde goth before though
> 
> [http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/laughy.gif](http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/laughy.gif)

If I found out she was a liar, than she would owe me; before I blew her cover.

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/75 "2010-12-18T02:57:47Z")

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I just received my bottles and loving this stuff put in a 30ml

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/76 "2010-12-18T03:19:15Z")

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Since people knocked what I said back with posts unrelated to this topic (instead of using the PM system) and people are still asking this, here is what I said before:

> [@John Sebastian](#):
>
> Ok. Let me say this again, but I’m going to start just listing the hundreds of posts I made next time 😛
> 
> MXs are not released in 30 mL due to their experimental nature. We can not exhaust the supply that quickly purely because of demand. It is released in small quantities for a reason. Unless you want the molecules inside 297 to fall to the same fate as P75 and other putative that are now out of stock. 😜
> 
> When an MX gets the esteemed pleasure of becoming a full product, then it can be a 30 mL. However if you guys want that to happen you need to start reporting properly. Not this “Let me spray everything on at once and mix it with sweat-sock scent (copulins) and let me pour cat urine all over my body too”. That data doesn’t help us, which means we can’t even think of upgrading the MXs you want to become permanent.
> 
> You need to work with us here, people 😛

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**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/77 "2010-12-18T03:31:10Z")

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> [@John Sebastian](#):
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> Since people knocked what I said back with posts unrelated to this topic (instead of using the PM system) and people are still asking this, here is what I said before:

NO PROBLEM when I ordered I did not read the part I should report,but I can tell you I have been using this alone and I am liking it a lot.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/78 "2011-01-11T00:35:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> JS writes, “Let me spray everything on at once and mix it with **sweat-sock scent (copulins)** and let me pour cat urine all over my body too”.

Hmm, stinky socks and pussy are pretty distinct and separate scents…

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/79 "2011-01-11T00:57:00Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> Hmm, stinky socks and pussy are pretty distinct and separate scents…

Yeah, I realize what they’re _supposed_ to smell like but I had the displeasure of smelling some not long ago and it came across like a sweat-sock scent. I guess the manufacturer was way off. Maybe he was a virgin and just guessed. The bottle was unlabeled so I don’t know who it’s from.

But my comment still stands that people complain we aren’t making new product or “upgrading” [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) yet continue to give us data we cant use despite the money we spend/lose giving them discounts for being “reporting users”.

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**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-do-you-want-mx297-to-be-released-in-30ml-version/189937/80 "2011-01-11T01:14:51Z")

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I wish I’d thought to add a bottle of this onto my last order. Next time, I’ll pick some up and give it a proper solo testing.

By the way, JS, I just want to point out that your rep score is currently 314. Very alpha.

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