# Poll For the Experimone Users **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 5, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854 "2008-10-05T01:58:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/1 "2008-10-05T01:58:07Z")
**How high have you gone?** (_that’s mcg’s 😃 )_ As i sit and ponder my new shopping cart, i’m curious to find out how high you go and if you care to post which product it was for that would be cool. For me, i think 12.5 has been the strongest and that was for p74 and p123. i’ve had several of the experimones at 10mcg and i’m undoubtedly increasing the TAA this time around. may go as high as 50 for that one and just 10 again for Androstadienone. TAF would have to be 10 as a rock bottom since i really dislike spraying myself 20 times to bring out the nature of the beast. the poll is only set to take your highest concentration, as i said before if you’d like to add a post with the product and concentration that would be sweet 😃 and thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/2 "2008-10-05T05:06:59Z")
only two of us? what is it like midnight on a saturday night and you guys aren’t sitting in front of your computers? ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/3 "2008-10-05T05:12:39Z")
I usually order the putatives is 25 mu, sometimes in 50 mu, but I have ordered [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) in 100 mu. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/4 "2008-10-05T05:52:28Z")
Well josef, since you ask there, i have P83 in 25MCG, [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) in 30MCG & P74 in 37.5MCG 🙂 And based on my intensive testing on P83 & P93(I did not have the time to test P74 yet), i find that P93 to be more effective & better there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/5 "2008-10-05T09:43:21Z")
Depends on the experimone and what my plans are for it. If I mix I go really high, sometimes over 50 mcg. Usually around 30 mcg. If I am spraying it on I go lower, unless I found in my testing that I needed alot of sprays to see results. If you starting out 12.3 mcg is what they usually send out for testing. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 10:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/6 "2008-10-05T10:25:40Z")
The ultra high concentrations are mainly useful for homebrew mixing with EOs and colognes. You wouldn’t normally want to directly spray yourself with several zaps of 100mcg [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Mixed 5 parts cologne to 1 part pheromone cuts it down to a manageable dose and a darn tootin’ scent. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/7 "2008-10-05T10:27:22Z")
thanks very much everyone for the feedback so far. i figure there are at least 30 or 40 of us testing and posting feedback from the experimones so i am really curious to see what levels everyone else is trying them at. i am seriously considering the TAA at 50mcg or higher. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/8 "2008-10-05T10:30:50Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The ultra high concentrations are mainly useful for homebrew mixing with EOs and colognes. You wouldn’t normally want to directly spray yourself with several zaps of 100mcg pheromones. Mixed 5 parts cologne to 1 part pheromone cuts it down to a manageable dose and a darn tootin’ scent. good point. i was experimenting with my own mixes years ago but the convenience factor and androtics dosed products that got me settled into a routine. i am pretty certain i will begin doing some pre mixes again soon, finding out the experimone and concentration combined with what i know about each of you helps me figure out what levels i might be able to get away with, and what to stay away from. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/9 "2008-10-05T14:21:55Z")
i always order mine in 25mcg it might be overkill to be honest not 100% sure and usually i use 1-2 sprays, i just rather not have to douse myself if i need to go up to see a reaction There have been times for experimentation i have gone as much as 150mcg when applying, though i find that usually does not make a huge difference i think there is a linear curve ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/10 "2008-10-07T06:58:00Z")
anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/11 "2008-10-07T07:29:47Z")
My P93 is 10mcg and I’m pretty sure my [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) is the same. My logic is keeping it at a smaller increment gives me precision when mixing. Because if it was 25+ or something like that, I couldn’t really do a touch of it. It would be too overpowering. But then, I can still do 25mcg if I want by adding more sprays. It’s a lot more workable when it’s less concentrated. And not to mention, as I’m becoming more of a seasoned user, I’ve realized that less is actually more. The more you use them, the more aware you become of the subtleties and you don’t have to use as much. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/12 "2008-10-07T08:11:11Z")
thanks for adding that, smoothplayer. i had TAF before at 5mcg but found myself using it regularly at around 70-75mcg so in that particular molecules case i can see myself getting it at 25mcg. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/13 "2008-10-07T09:22:13Z")
> [@Jedi\_Nights](#): > > I usually order the putatives is 25 mu, sometimes in 50 mu, > but I have ordered P93 in 100 mu. Jedi why such high strength [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)? I wear 5 mcg in a mix almost everyday and get consistent noticeable results with it. What is the difference with such high doses of P93 - what do you see with it? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/14 "2008-10-07T15:33:24Z")
Hey josef, I’ve got a-nol and b-nol in 100 mcg but it’s for mixing. -A sent me a freebie 50mcg -none in neroli on my last order. Haven’t opened it yet though. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/15 "2008-10-07T17:58:18Z")
Josef, I find that I usually buy an experimone or putative that I’m trying for the first time around 10mcgs to make it easy to estimate 45mcgs or whatnot. I usually look back at reports regarding the molecule to see what dosages were effective for them. Either way, after using the 15mcg or 10mcg bottle, I usually have an idea of what concentration I want. For example, I would buy TAK at 2.5mcgs after my experiences, I originally had 10mcgs. Renny’s reports also prompted me to purchase TAL and TAH at 2.5mcgs, rather than the usual 10mcgs. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/16 "2008-10-07T22:55:30Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Jedi why such high strength P93? > I wear 5 mcg in a mix almost everyday and get consistent noticeable results with it. What is the difference with such high doses of P93 - what do you see with it? I get them in 25 mu and 50 mu because I can dilute and mix them in to-go bottles. The 100 mu P93 I ordered because I have this feeling that it is similar to [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). I do not get the self effects of Instant Female Magic from P93. I spray IFM on the side of my pants at hip level to avoid the self effect. P93 can go on my chest or arms without any of that. But I have not been able to figure out a good test scenario to contrast the two. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/17 "2008-10-08T01:16:43Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Hey josef, I’ve got a-Androstenol and b-Androstenol in 100 mcg but it’s for mixing. -A sent me a freebie 50mcg -none in neroli on my last order. Haven’t opened it yet though. wow, 50mcg -none. i would call that the “one drop wonder”. open it in the gym and see what happens 😃 ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/18 "2008-10-08T01:21:06Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Josef, I find that I usually buy an experimone or putative that I’m trying for the first time around 10mcgs to make it easy to estimate 45mcgs or whatnot. > > I usually look back at reports regarding the molecule to see what dosages were effective for them. Either way, after using the 15mcg or 10mcg bottle, I usually have an idea of what concentration I want. > > For example, I would buy TAK at 2.5mcgs after my experiences, I originally had 10mcgs. Renny’s reports also prompted me to purchase TAL and TAH at 2.5mcgs, rather than the usual 10mcgs. thanks for the info. i started buying each of mine at 5mcg years ago and found that with stuff like TAF it required 15 sprays for my self effects. 15 is about 13 too many for me lol. personally i try not too read too much feedback for putatives simply because i don’t want to be led along or directed with them. i agree though it is nice in certain cases to know ahead of time and be able to adjust to an appropriate strength. i haven’t mixed anything for years, 100mcg wouldn’t do me much good now because apart from maybe TAA i wouldn’t get much use out of it. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/19 "2008-10-08T16:11:38Z")
the first experimone i ever ordered was taa @ 2.5mcg, so i had to wear like 10 sprays. So the next ones i always tried 10 to 15 mcg. Recently i got 2 bottle with 30 mcg (p74 and p93) for mixing purposes. But if anyone just want to wear them and not mixing, 12.5 works well, and u can easily wear more sprays if u need to 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iamstretchypanda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/iamstretchypanda/32/1228_2.png) [@iamstretchypanda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iamstretchypanda)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854/20 "2008-10-08T17:15:17Z")
My theory is higher is better from the standpoint that its easier to mix and you can always dilute. Mixing is very accurate if you are using ML (versus spraying) so don’t be afraid of messing up a mix because the MCG was to high. Your error rate should be pretty small just measure from the meniscus. If you are spraying and want a lower dose you can always make a togo of half strength by putting in 2.5ML of pheromone and 2.5ML of everclear etc. My issue was that i purchased 5 pheromones in 30ml bottles @ 5mcg and when i mix them it takes 5 sprays to get 5 mcg of each LOL. I use up an entire togo in 2 applications. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-for-the-experimone-users/189854.md?page=2)