# Possible IS issue

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 24, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010 "2014-05-24T05:16:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![only1fear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@only1fear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/only1fear)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/1 "2014-05-24T05:16:49Z")

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So I usually wear x2ammo to work but today I added in x2 IS. I found it really weird a lot of girls would just come stand by me and every time I looked up I would catch people looking at me then they would look away lol, one of them said they had a really bad headache and felt like everything was spinning, could this be an effect of IS or was she just not feeling good? If it is coming from IS i probably wont wear it to work anymore because I felt sorry for her all day. Then after work I went to mcdonalds and this cute chick at the window started talking SUPER FAST and looked really nervous haha.

I know most of these are good hits, I am just concerned about the headaches part.

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**Author:** ![Mrdimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Mrdimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mrdimes)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/2 "2014-05-24T06:51:51Z")

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Umm those are good things. Not issues. Means they were showing interest in you.

Idk about the headache…what you got we’re actraction hits

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**Author:** ![only1fear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@only1fear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/only1fear)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/3 "2014-05-24T06:59:39Z")

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> [@Mrdimes](#):
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> Umm those are good things. Not issues. Means they were showing interest in you.
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> Idk about the headache…what you got we’re actraction hits

Yea i mean I had good results for most but if it makes this 1 girl feel miserable all day I dont wanna use it @ work. She talks to me all the time at work and was trying to go home she felt so sick, I don’t wanna make her feel like that all the time… Maybe I could try it again and see if she still feel sick or maybe try 1 spray instead of 2. She also asked me if i was wearing cologne and i said it was just body spray lol.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/4 "2014-05-24T11:37:18Z")

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All of those are good solid hits - Go read the IOI sticky if you don’t know these as there are a great many more.

The headache thing may be more to do with the scent rather than the pheros and yes, **any** scent can make things worse if you have some types of headache building. Again, I wouldn’t worry about it. In fact I’d be more likely to associate it with the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) as it is the more prominent scent.

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**Author:** ![only1fear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@only1fear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/only1fear)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/5 "2014-05-24T15:28:39Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> All of those are good solid hits - Go read the IOI sticky if you don’t know these as there are a great many more.
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> The headache thing may be more to do with the scent rather than the pheros and yes, **any** scent can make things worse if you have some types of headache building. Again, I wouldn’t worry about it. In fact I’d be more likely to associate it with the Ammo as it is the more prominent scent.

I found another thread with someone else with similar experience. [Girls Getting Headache from Androstenone? Or Something Else?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girls-getting-headache-from-androstenone-or-something-else/6060)

> [@Girls Getting Headache from Androstenone? Or Something Else?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girls-getting-headache-from-androstenone-or-something-else/6060/2):
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> The first time pheros hit someone, especially if theyre not well-hydrated and/or unhealthy, a headache or other adverse reaction is likely. Instant Shine at high dosages is a big candidate for a headache like you would not believe.

Is this true? But don’t we naturally release [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to so it cant be the first time.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/6 "2014-05-24T16:50:05Z")

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If you are sensitive, or already halfway there, any scent can tip you over the edge. Also, I can get headaches/irritation from certain scents if worn for more than a couple of hours - FF21 (Standard Ammo) and Cool Water are the main culprits - even if I’m around someone wearing them I’ll be feeling not great after a while. So this and other commonalities in the scents suggest they may share a common component I’m sensitive to but its not just the pheros.

Yes, certain pheros - Notably IS, TAA and nols **can** leave you feeling drained/tired/headachy after a few hours at high dose/repeated topups if you don’t take steps to offset it (search for “IS Crash”) but that usually involves a far greater dose than two sprays IS or 7.5mcg of A-nol. Especially on a third party - Whilst it is **just** possible that someone with an exceptionally high sensitivity might get negatives from that kind of dose when wearing it themselves (seen it reported once or twice in several years), the dose needed to affect someone else that way would be enormous, or you would need to be in extreme proximity to them - like in an unventilated car, cupboard, small tent etc. Very little chance in a normal workplace.

The only way to be shure is to start testing the individual pheros and alternatives carefully, swapping-out one component after the other till you find the culprit but I’d still lay money on this being a scent reaction, not the pheros themselves.

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**Author:** ![only1fear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@only1fear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/only1fear)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/possible-is-issue/62010/7 "2014-05-24T18:51:49Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> If you are sensitive, or already halfway there, any scent can tip you over the edge. Also, I can get headaches/irritation from certain scents if worn for more than a couple of hours - FF21 (Standard Ammo) and Cool Water are the main culprits - even if I’m around someone wearing them I’ll be feeling not great after a while. So this and other commonalities in the scents suggest they may share a common component I’m sensitive to but its not just the pheros.
> 
> Yes, certain pheros - Notably IS, TAA and nols **can** leave you feeling drained/tired/headachy after a few hours at high dose/repeated topups if you don’t take steps to offset it (search for “IS Crash”) but that usually involves a far greater dose than two sprays IS or 7.5mcg of A-nol. Especially on a third party - Whilst it is **just** possible that someone with an exceptionally high sensitivity might get negatives from that kind of dose when wearing it themselves (seen it reported once or twice in several years), the dose needed to affect someone else that way would be enormous, or you would need to be in extreme proximity to them - like in an unventilated car, cupboard, small tent etc. Very little chance in a normal workplace.
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> The only way to be shure is to start testing the individual pheros and alternatives carefully, swapping-out one component after the other till you find the culprit but I’d still lay money on this being a scent reaction, not the pheros themselves.

Alright thanks, yeah I heard people got energy drained while using IS but I have no bad effects at all from it maybe because I go to gym to workout alot, will test out IS individually once and see how that goes.
