# Potential Issue with Ammon **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132 "2010-11-06T18:05:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FluDawg33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@FluDawg33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FluDawg33)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/1 "2010-11-06T18:05:34Z")
Hey Everyone, I’m pretty new and have been doing some experimenting lately. Initially, just with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). The good news is that I think I’ve been having a few more “hits” recently than without. The issue here is that I have been feeling down and depressed a LOT lately. I stopped using it for a few days, but I’m not positive if that made a difference or not. Not sure if anyone has had experience with Ammo having this effect? Also think I may have noticed this with Turn up the Heat after nights out on the town. ---
**Author:** ![jap88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@jap88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jap88)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/2 "2010-11-06T18:29:55Z")
> [@DrewFlu33](#): > > Hey Everyone, > > I’m pretty new and have been doing some experimenting lately. Initially, just with Ammo. The good news is that I think I’ve been having a few more “hits” recently than without. The issue here is that I have been feeling down and depressed a LOT lately. I stopped using it for a few days, but I’m not positive if that made a difference or not. Not sure if anyone has had experience with Ammo having this effect? > > Also think I may have noticed this with Turn up the Heat after nights out on the town. I can’t say I have personally, and I use Ammo a lot. The only negative effects I get from it are the occasional headache. Stay off it for a while longer and see if it helps. ---
**Author:** ![CHALA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@CHALA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHALA)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/3 "2010-11-06T18:30:00Z")
Hmmmm i doubt very much it is the Ammo. If anything with Ammo i feel horny and ‘up for it’ along with being more confident. Give it a few more tries and then you can isolate it down to the Ammo or just yourself. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/4 "2010-11-06T19:40:07Z")
What I’ve noticed is after awhile, using mones just tires me out mentally and physically. I get into kind of a haze. This usually occurs during a pherobomb, while trying something new, or just going mone heavy for too many days in a row. Maybe you need to up your fluid intake, take some vitamins etc. Fatigue can create a lot of interference in your life and bring about depression…I’m not saying this is it, but I know I have to just step back sometimes and let my body rest away from the mones. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/5 "2010-11-06T20:03:17Z")
I think it might be due to a trace amount of taf in ammo. People say it is just three raw mones, but others have also informed that a tiny traces of molecules such as taf are in it.taf makes ur brain really focus, and after awhile it gets worn out or something, according to someone. Anyways, mones make ur brain active; that is why I don’t recommend u wear it in school. Ur cognitive ability would be less than maximal when on mones. Also, think mones as something like alcohol. U don’t want to use it everyday. Some will say alcohol isn’t bad but that is a huge lie. It is a waste byproduct of yeast in anaerobic condition; it is equivalent to human piss after excercise. Do you think yeast would drink our piss to get tipsy if they had some brain? Think about that 😉 Drinking and using mones would be VERY BAD for ur body and brain. I suggest u use mones a few times per week, excercise and eat well, and don’t smoke or drink. There ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/6 "2010-11-06T20:08:13Z")
Pheros need a break… I try not to use them too often, never dose up more than once or twice a week, always with at least 2 days between… ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/7 "2010-11-06T20:36:54Z")
mmm…this could partially explain why I’ve been bummed out and tired lately. And I have given myself a bit of a break this week. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/8 "2010-11-07T00:01:49Z")
> [@2000GT](#): > > mmm…this could partially explain why I’ve been bummed out and tired lately. And I have given myself a bit of a break this week. take a break for about a day or two for every 5+ hours of usage. That should help you from burning out after a few weeks. It is funny, because this topic always comes up, and i always tell people mones are no candy and they should take of their health by using it with moderation 🙄 Some people always chime in and tell me how mones don’t do jack to their health, even if one uses it everyday… it should happen now? … well, any time soon… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/9 "2010-11-07T00:54:40Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > take a break for about a day or two for every 5+ hours of usage. > That should help you from burning out after a few weeks. > It is funny, because this topic always comes up, and i always tell people mones are no candy and they should take of their health by using it with moderation 🙄 > Some people always chime in and tell me how mones don’t do jack to their health, even if one uses it everyday… it should happen now? … well, any time soon… 🆒 _nods_ been doing just that for the past few days. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/10 "2010-11-07T08:52:36Z")
Anone anol and arone are in Ammo and these three are not known to cause depression. In fact generally they will cause a feeling of power confidence and upliftment. I dont believe there is TAF in it unless they did something to the world addition which is a possibility. Trace amounts of taf should not cause depression or depletion either just sharpen the hits so you notice them more. There are a few other possibilities to consider though… We are all chemically different and maybe anone which is in both ammo and tuth doesn’t agree with you. I still feel this is unlikely since you make most [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) naturally though. The signature can be triggering a memory of someone who is close to you but brings you down. Scent is the strongest sense for triggering memory. Could be your neurotransmitters are depleted. I dont think you have used it long enough for that to occur from pheromones alone though. If you have other habits that cause this, those combined with mones can make it occur faster. Caffeine intake, Bad diet, alcohol all can contribute to depletion. You may have read how A1 causes depression in a small percentage of men and it has you worried it will happen with other pheromones. Its sort like a placebo effect. Moderation is important with pheromones. Anything can cause health concerns if over done. I suggest taking pherobreaks. Take a good multi vitamin to keep your neurotransmitters in top form. Lay off caffeine sugar and alcohol if you use those alot, drink more water, get 8 hours of sleep if you can and get some exercise and you should snap back and not have this problem. I watch all those factors and use pheromones probably a lot more then most people and I notice when I slack off in those areas I crash and burn much quicker then if I am mindful of it. Just like eating to much cake can give you a fat ass to much mones can make you feel tired and run down. If you want to eat cake you have to get out there and work it off. If you want to use mones you have to be mindful of your diet and other health habits. Tish ---
**Author:** ![AplAy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aplay/32/1054_2.png) [@AplAy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AplAy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/11 "2010-11-07T19:04:52Z")
This topic is REALLY interesting and also important I think because two things I have been concerned about synthesized mones are: 1) do they work at all? and 2) how much of them is healthy and how much of them is unhealthy? I use AMMO + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) right now and I use them rarely at all actually, compared to many people I would suspect. I only use mones a few times at a month because I do not really like the idea to spray some known and some unknown chemicals into my nose. The nose is closest connected to the brain of all sense organs so if you do not know how chemical affects you, avoid it! Now, I do have some empirical evidence from my own life that might support and suggest the idea that “too much mones will make you depressed/weary and so on”. Sometimes when i have been very lazy I haven’t taken showers for at least a week and sometimes even longer and this means my body is producing alot of mones naturally that never get washed away through showers and I can assure you without have been reading this thread before that I did not really understand why the hell I would get tired after a week of no showering. I thought it was a psychological thing that I did not take care of myself and thus I was telling my subconscious bad stuffs about my own self-worth and yadayada. But there might be a mutlifactor here: too much mones = no showers + affect on the brain 24/7 and yadayada. So, moderation as people suggests is the key to avoid alot of headaches and such by mones and that is why I rarely use them and I also keep them in a safe box and I only spray on in other toilets or outside so I do not get any mones in my own bathroom (neva!!). Call me mones-neurotic but I do not like the idea of sniffing unknown chemicals up my nose 24/7! 😉 \\ AplAy /// ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/potential-issue-with-ammon/43132/12 "2010-11-07T19:11:47Z")
> [@AplAy](#): > > This topic is REALLY interesting and also important I think because two things > I have been concerned about synthesized mones are: 1) do they work at all? > and 2) how much of them is healthy and how much of them is unhealthy? > > I use AMMO + Instant Shine right now and I use them rarely at all actually, > compared to many people I would suspect. I only use mones a few times at a > month because I do not really like the idea to spray some known and some > unknown chemicals into my nose. The nose is closest connected to the brain > of all sense organs so if you do not know how chemical affects you, avoid it! > > Now, I do have some empirical evidence from my own life that might > support and suggest the idea that “too much mones will make you > depressed/weary and so on”. Sometimes when i have been very lazy I > haven’t taken showers for at least a week and sometimes even longer and > this means my body is producing alot of mones naturally that never get > washed away through showers and I can assure you without have been > reading this thread before that I did not really understand why the hell I > would get tired after a week of no showering. I thought it was a > psychological thing that I did not take care of myself and thus I was telling > my subconscious bad stuffs about my own self-worth and yadayada. But > there might be a mutlifactor here: too much mones = no showers + affect > on the brain 24/7 and yadayada. So, moderation as people suggests is the > key to avoid alot of headaches and such by mones and that is why I rarely > use them and I also keep them in a safe box and I only spray on in other > toilets or outside so I do not get any mones in my own bathroom (neva!!). > > Call me mones-neurotic but I do not like the idea > of sniffing unknown chemicals up my nose 24/7! 😉 > > \\ AplAy /// Do you use scented products of any kind? Showergel/soap, body spray, deodorant, scented detergents in your laundry, air freshener etc.? Given anecdotal reports it does seem that concentrated mones seem to stimulate parts of the brain that are not often used which could create neurotransmitter depletion and subsequent feelings of depression and/or lethargy. NT depletion is also one of the effects of over training in bodybuilding and other sports. Proper nutrition, supplementation and rest can be a tremendous help in reducing or avoiding the effects.