# Pre-Order Review (Comes with Suggestions) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 10, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222 "2010-06-10T03:29:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/1 "2010-06-10T03:29:13Z")
Hi Guys Before i start i just wanted to say that i had typed my post (pretty long one at that) and encountered an error upon posting. Bah! 😠 Now that i got that off my chest lets get the formalities out of the way. Im a guy in my late 20’s from Singapore, in SE Asia. I chanced upon Androtics Direct whilst googling for Android phones lol, blame it on typing too fast. I started reading and it piqued my interest as i didnt know pheromone manufacturing has matured and bloomed. I read about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ages ago but that was while it was in its infancy. I have always been a _scent oriented_ person, i love and hate people by their scent. (Scent, not smell mind you lol) After a few days of reading AD i was quite impressed with their range, especially the ability to _customize_ for specific events and started compiling my wishlist. Now purchasing items from the internet has its risks and i had my concerns(shipping, exchange rate and of course it being a Scam lol). Which brought me to this forum. Most of my concerns have been addressed after reading this forum for another half week. I was happy to learn that AD is run like a _family business_ where the customers arent treated like customers, they are treated like family. I must admit i joined (and am posting) to queue and earn my gift certificate simply to defray my shipping cost (cant be helped my wishlist is too big lol, not to mention the exchange rate will hit me quite hard ☹ USD$1:SGD$1.4). Believe me i was finalising my purchase and thinking what do i need for my first purchase and what can wait when i found out about this promo. Good Move there on having these $25 GC promos 🙂. Before i sign off i have a few suggestions/questions: 1. Why arent there any Set/Packages? Maybe something along these lines: - Starter Pack (2-3 Travellers To Go Sprays) - Romeo Set (IFM/AMM + TUTH) - Power Suit Set (A314 + IS) 1. Could you guys put a complete catalog please? i had a hard time finding IFM/A314 after reading it from this forum. (and there i was impressed with wat i saw at the site not knowing i was only scratching the surface lol) 2. How long does it take to replenish stock? Could you perhaps put a Status on Out of Stock items? Instead of putting Out of Stock maybe Ingredient Shopping / Mixing / Brewing / Stock Available. Best of course is if it includes a timeline (eg Brewing (2 weeks more) ) 🙂 Thank you for reading, i cant wait for my GC so i can finally submit my order. Ami~ ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/2 "2010-06-10T03:41:10Z")
I only remembered this snippet which was in my original error-ed post after i had posted. (sorry for the tongue twister lol) You guys at AD remind me alot of this one movie i saw titled Perfume: Story of a Murderer. Where this guy was born with an incredible nose, he can literally smell everything. Gist of the story is that he went on a quest to manufacture the very first [pheromone](https://a314.com/) (i hope to God you guys arent using his techniques lol (you’ll understand if you’ve seen the show)). ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/3 "2010-06-10T05:40:21Z")
Hey ami81, Welcome! I’m just heading to bed but wanted to comment quickly. Alot of your suggestions have been mentioned in one way or another and I believe Androtics wants to do stuff like that, but the company is having growing pains form the recession and other personal issues. But time heals all wounds. One thing in your introduction I missed is what were your intents with pheromones? Are you looking for women, respect, bonding? And where do you see yourself using them the most and with whom. We can help guide you in whats best to use! Curious, if you’ve made up your mind on your first purchase, what are you looking to get?🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/4 "2010-06-10T07:20:53Z")
Hi Daset1 Ah ok i guess i should have been reading the forum further back to get that. Thats sad news indeed, as i feel the company has quite abit of potential for this niche and relatively untapped market. To me AD is like Apple, they can have many competitors but they dont have anything to worry as they’re in a class of their own. Perhaps what they can consider is marketing to parts of the world which are less affected by the recession? Right, i forgot all about that. Personally my take on pheromones are to improve my quality of life at every level, both from my own perspective as well as my interaction with other people (friends or at work). I want to lead better, meet people easier, laugh louder, flirt sexier, fall in love harder. Ambitious huh lol. Do remember that i have yet to place my first order but these are my Wish List at the moment. - A314 (lets face it, we spend most of our days at work anyways =D ) - Instant Shine (There are days where i wake up and see everything clearer, the sky is bluer, grass is greener and i _ **know** _ that its going to be a great day. Only problem, i have no control when it happens) - Ammo - Turn up the Heat - Instant Openness - [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) - Come Talk to Me I think theres a few more but i couldnt find them on the site again. Anyways, what my first purchase is might depends on whats available i guess, i might opt for travel version for some of them, but my feeling is Instant Shine is gonna b one of my staple lol. I have a few more questions that i forgot to ask previously. 1. Does a high humidity country affect the usage? i know that low humidity and high heat is a problem but what about high heat and extremely humid? 2. does smoke smell dampen the scent? ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/5 "2010-06-10T12:32:04Z")
Welcome Ami81, You are very ambitious and i can appreciate that and it looks like you have done some reading and become pretty well versed. Im sorry to tell you but IFM is no longer offered and probably will never be coming back due to a patent from what i have read. The store here has plenty of growth and customers to grow but there has been both personal issues and professional issues with banks cancelling lines of credit for no reason just because the high institutions needed bailouts and cut back on lines of credit to people who paid on time every month. There are postings from the company in the store section forum and i think you should read up on things there. Smoke should not affect the diffusion of the mones but may make the neroli or other coverscent less noticeable just like it would if you had cologne on, the smoke tends to get overpowering at times. Humidity also has a part in using mones and i think you should use the search function at the top of the page to search posts and threads which can answer a lot of your questions because theres years of knowledge packed in there. I really like your idea about the packs of mones together that would complement each other nicely. I think you have some great mones picked out thus far and looks like you really want to tap into them all for every occassion and reason. Look forward to hearing more from you ! ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/6 "2010-06-10T12:35:54Z")
> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/official-reponse-whats-going-androtics-similar-41596.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/7 "2010-06-10T13:16:21Z")
> [@ami81](#): > > Do remember that i have yet to place my first order but these are my Wish List at the moment. > > - A314 (lets face it, we spend most of our days at work anyways =D ) > - Instant Shine (There are days where i wake up and see everything clearer, the sky is bluer, grass is greener and i _ **know** _ that its going to be a great day. Only problem, i have no control when it happens) > - Ammo > - Turn up the Heat > - Instant Openness > - Instant Female Magic > - Come Talk to Me Yes I think thats a good list. IFM was discontinued but as you grow on the fourms you’ll find that some of the advanced products can help have the same effect. After you participate on the fourms for abit your upgraded to reporting user status and thoes advanced products are made available to you at better price points 🙂 I highly recomend A314, people place alot more value on you when using. I love it! And for the socials you may want to get IO and IH as oposed to IO and CTTM. CTTM is the combination of IO and IH. SO if you were to get IO and IH you can better see the individual effects and choose when you desire one or the other. ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/8 "2010-06-10T13:56:52Z")
> [@Katalyst](#): > > Welcome Ami81, > > Smoke should not affect the diffusion of the mones but may make the neroli or other coverscent less noticeable just like it would if you had cologne on, the smoke tends to get overpowering at times. > > Humidity also has a part in using mones and i think you should use the search function at the top of the page to search posts and threads which can answer a lot of your questions because theres years of knowledge packed in there. I really like your idea about the packs of mones together that would complement each other nicely. I think you have some great mones picked out thus far and looks like you really want to tap into them all for every occassion and reason. Look forward to hearing more from you ! Hi Katalyst, Thanks for the clarification, i was curious abt [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) being used in clubs where smoke is predominant, now it makes sense that most people douse themselves with extra strengths. i think im getting impatient and better send out my order before any more stock runs out lol. ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/9 "2010-06-10T14:01:20Z")
Hi Daset > [@daset1](#): > > Yes I think thats a good list. IFM was discontinued but as you grow on the fourms you’ll find that some of the advanced products can help have the same effect. After you participate on the fourms for abit your upgraded to reporting user status and thoes advanced products are made available to you at better price points 🙂 i was abit confused about the advanced product, the catalogue states the pheromone type but not the effect. i suppose the premixed ones are compounds of these but i have no idea which is used for which mix. > [@daset1](#): > > I highly recomend A314, people place alot more value on you when using. I love it! > > And for the socials you may want to get IO and IH as oposed to IO and CTTM. CTTM is the combination of IO and IH. SO if you were to get IO and IH you can better see the individual effects and choose when you desire one or the other. Yes i was highly disappointed that A314 is sold out at the moment. Was considering IG as a substitute. It was said that its the lil brother of A314, smoother etc. I was very disappointed to hear that CTTM was no longer produced and thank god you explained that CTTM is IO + IH lol. ill add IH to my list then ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/10 "2010-06-10T18:50:29Z")
> [@ami81](#): > > Hi Daset > i was abit confused about the advanced product, the catalogue states the pheromone type but not the effect. i suppose the premixed ones are compounds of these but i have no idea which is used for which mix. > > Yes i was highly disappointed that A314 is sold out at the moment. Was considering IG as a substitute. It was said that its the lil brother of A314, smoother etc. > > I was very disappointed to hear that CTTM was no longer produced and thank god you explained that CTTM is IO + IH lol. ill add IH to my list then Yeah they make the advanced section more vauge so that peoples experiments are not bias when reporting. But in some cases its easy to read up on the advanced products by using the search function. I still like IG, I’be had times when using it that people go out of their way to help me or circle around me as the center of attention even when I’m avoiding it lol. I belive A314 will be back soon though. I think they still produce CTTM2 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/11 "2010-06-11T00:13:25Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course Steve is available to answer any question you might have regarding mones and you can speak to him personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and he will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/12 "2010-06-11T01:03:23Z")
> [@daset1](#): > > Yeah they make the advanced section more vauge so that peoples experiments are not bias when reporting. But in some cases its easy to read up on the advanced products by using the search function. That makes alot of sense, after all they are an R&D company. Perhaps you could help share if there were any previously compiled list of Experimental -Mones? Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙂 > [@daset1](#): > > I still like IG, I’be had times when using it that people go out of their way to help me or circle around me as the center of attention even when I’m avoiding it lol. I belive A314 will be back soon though. > > I think they still produce CTTM2 🙂 Lol if IG does that, does that mean A314 gives u pseudo super star aura kinda thingee? i will wait for the next batch of CTTM then. I have read quite abit of Spaceland and the results. Was curious about the advertised effects. Have sent my order yesterday, was expecting AD to call me as its an International Order however this AM i received DHL’s Delivery Invoice. Cant wait 😃 I noticed ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/13 "2010-06-11T01:04:23Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Thank you Mickaelia, i will use it for my next batch 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/14 "2010-06-11T01:07:20Z")
> [@ami81](#): > > Thank you Mickaelia, i will use it for my next batch 🙂 heres one thing I found, others have made summeries of what they’ve found… [http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh\_IA&gid=1](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA&gid=1) ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/15 "2010-06-11T06:47:32Z")
> [@daset1](#): > > heres one thing I found, others have made summeries of what they’ve found… > > [Mix Guide](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA&gid=1) Thank you so much Daset1, exactly what i was looking for. Sorry for being so inquisitive, but i have one more question: How were the pheromones made? Primarily what extract were they taken from? Animals? Vegetables? People? Jus wanna make sure im not wearing an _Essence of Steve,_ or a _Distillate of Mickaelia_. 😛 (No Offense to Steve or Mickaelia but you guys are the most prominent people here that Newbies like me know of who are affiliated with AD) ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/16 "2010-06-11T12:22:55Z")
> [@ami81](#): > > Thank you so much Daset1, exactly what i was looking for. > > Sorry for being so inquisitive, but i have one more question: > How were the pheromones made? Primarily what extract were they taken from? > > Animals? Vegetables? People? > > Jus wanna make sure im not wearing an _Essence of Steve,_ or a _Distillate of Mickaelia_. 😛 > (No Offense to Steve or Mickaelia but you guys are the most prominent people here that Newbies like me know of who are affiliated with AD) Thats a good question I was wondering myself, you could ask in the mens section.. would have more visibility there. I would presume its synthetically made in a lab. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/17 "2010-06-11T14:45:28Z")
I don’t think CTTM is coming back or IFM fyi ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-order-review-comes-with-suggestions/39222/18 "2010-06-11T17:05:13Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > I don’t think CTTM is coming back or IFM fyi Aw man… Not even for custom mixes?