# Preventing a sale **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 1, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106 "2011-11-01T22:32:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/1 "2011-11-01T22:32:11Z")
Ok, we have quite a few salesmen here. You guys all work hard and put on mixes to increase commissions. I want the opposite. My question is: what mones will make other people reluctant to purchase something? I want to hit an equipment auction and buy some things, but I don’t want yokels driving the prices up. I don’t care if I have to put up some cash, I just don’t want to leave empty handed because this damn auction is 5 hours away. If the prices are too high, I just wasted 10 hours and how many gallons of gas. I’m thinking that A314 and IJ could be a potent combination because of the intimidation factor. I’ve read about other users using it while in a poker game and pushing others out of the pot. Any other ideas? I’m worried that I could create a challenge for some of these people where ego gets involved if I have too much stuff on me. I’ve ruled out several [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) from the instant line because they tend to increase sales, not decrease. IShine, IO, IH are not going to prevent others from bidding things up. Likewise, p83 would probably increase bids and loosen wallets. I can’t think of a reason to use AMMO. I don’t know much about other putatives to make any educated guesses. ---
**Author:** ![mika3549](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mika3549/32/2136_2.png) [@mika3549](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mika3549)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/2 "2011-11-01T22:58:33Z")
when i saw a title ij and a314 was the thing that came to my mind. lets say 4d x A314 and 2 x IJ i think that might do the job ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/3 "2011-11-01T23:37:26Z")
Yeah - IJ and maybe P79 is my suggestion - with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) for good measure. Which brings me to an idea that has crossed my mind before. Could AD determine the phero sig for someone unwell so people could more easily convince their bosses - I’m sure “Instant Sickie” would sell very well? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/4 "2011-11-02T01:13:27Z")
Hahaha. That’s a good idea. Maybe those Harry Potter vomit flavored jelly beans have the sort of scent package that is needed. I’m thinking somewhere around 4-5 drops of A314 and 3 sprays of IJ. I have to do some research on p75 and p79. p83 is really the only putative that I have, and I haven’t used it much at all. I ordered it before the recent craze for p83 and now I really save it for special occasions. ---
**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/5 "2011-11-02T01:23:13Z")
heres a more effective way, simply stop talking and ignore people. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/6 "2011-11-02T01:43:20Z")
That would prevent me from making sales if I were a salesman, however I want to prevent others from bidding in an auction. If I were super friendly and started talking to everybody there that would probably hurt things, but that’s not the environment of a typical auction unless you are already buddy buddy with people there. ---
**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/7 "2011-11-02T01:45:21Z")
depending on the people and auction type, IJ and A314 can help, but when emotions are mixed with monetary gain, it will usually outweigh mones. Just some 2cents worth. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/8 "2011-11-02T02:54:03Z")
I hear ya. I’ve gone back and forth over whether A314/IJ will help me out or cause challenging/higher bids. I think this may end up being a long term testing thing for me, if I manage to hit these things up often enough. The way I look at it, if it worked for poker it may work for auctions. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/9 "2011-11-02T03:38:47Z")
Maybe you want some IH though? An honest seller may offer an item to you at honest prices… just saying… ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/10 "2011-11-02T05:25:42Z")
A314 + IJ is also what sprang to mind for me ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/11 "2011-11-02T06:31:47Z")
Maybe TAK (Instant STFU)… ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/12 "2011-11-02T14:38:32Z")
Or even, now that I think about, a splash of Est to reduce competitiveness. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/13 "2011-11-02T14:41:52Z")
> [@The\_Hammer](#): > > I’m thinking that A314 and IJ could be a potent combination because of the intimidation factor. Thing is, IJ/A314 may be the utter bastard sig but it is also the sort of bastard who knows his stuff and means it. That alone may intimmidate people into a sale or make them jump on your bandwagon? ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/14 "2011-11-02T16:09:19Z")
I agree with Dbot on TAK. Sedate them! If the crowd is mostly male, you could try massive amounts of A1 to make them withdrawn, and perhaps make the females content with what they have. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/15 "2011-11-02T23:33:20Z")
I’d be sedated it I used Tak! I’m intrigued by Est and A1 usage, though I’ll skip the A1 since I don’t know about the effects on myself. I honestly think that A314/IJ plus one more will make everything work. I like the idea of an intimidate and sedate mix. Make them not care enough to outbid the asshole. ---
**Author:** ![henk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/henk/32/5189_2.png) [@henk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/henk)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/16 "2011-11-02T23:45:27Z")
I would say no mones… just kick them in the face. Seriously high A314 and high IJ works great. ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/17 "2011-11-03T01:06:07Z")
My concern about a314/IJ would be either shit testing you (driving up the price), or respecting your opinion too much and so wanting what you want. With a nice dollup of est, people will be more inclined to want to protect you, without really thinking you know what you’re doing. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/18 "2011-11-03T01:19:55Z")
TAK is pretty awesome for this, and I’d throw in VERY low dose of -none (possibly via a drop of A314) to make sure you don’t lose status. ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/19 "2011-11-03T03:44:48Z")
> [@dbot](#): > > My concern about a314/IJ would be either shit testing you (driving up the price), or respecting your opinion too much and so wanting what you want. > > With a nice dollup of est, people will be more inclined to want to protect you, without really thinking you know what you’re doing. I wonder if EST could backfire and result in others bidding more to prevent you from suffering monetary loss, or if the lack of congruence detection in the scenario leads to unidentified source of mones- like, they don’t know who to ‘protect.’ I agree that it might be useful in decreasing competetiveness overall though.. I guess my final vote is A314/IJ/EST ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/preventing-a-sale/53106/20 "2011-11-03T18:30:31Z")
despite the incongruence with the raw aggression of IJ and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), adding large dose of A314 works well when it comes to intimidating people.. might project a “drug lord in a white suite” kinda vibe… aggressive like a thug but also projects some kind of success/monetary reach so differentiate you from just another street corner thug (IJ+P75) I tried it a few times and it was awesome 🙂