# problems with androstenone attraction - do they feel duped?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-androstenone-attraction-do-they-feel-duped/15250>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 10, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-androstenone-attraction-do-they-feel-duped/15250 "2008-07-10T11:07:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-androstenone-attraction-do-they-feel-duped/15250/21 "2008-07-13T09:33:25Z")

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> [@smoothplayer](#):
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> I personally think it’s that you’re wearing TOO MUCH androstenone. I’ve never had this problem with Ammo or NPA, but with Primal Instinct I experienced this. I soon realized that PI was too much androstenone for me to feel congruent with.

As far as I know, NPA has a similar amount of androstenone in it as Primal Instinct. Did you dilute NPA?

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**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-androstenone-attraction-do-they-feel-duped/15250/22 "2008-07-13T11:11:47Z")

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> [@bubblebob](#):
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> As far as I know, NPA has a similar amount of androstenone in it as Primal Instinct. Did you dilute NPA?

Are you sure? I think Primal Instinct is more per drop. But I actually think it may also be because Primal Instinct feels more animalistic/aggressive as it’s more purely androstenone, while NPA feels more sexual/smooth, and it’s rumored to have an additional secret ingredient.

In this chart from LS it shows Primal Instinct to have a tiny bit more pheromone content per milliliter: [http://pherolibrary.com/reference/product-table.html](http://pherolibrary.com/reference/product-table.html)

I don’t know though, there were lots of discussions on LS about which one is more androstenone, but for me at least PI feels like a real kick, while NPA is more user friendly 😉 …and I also think that typically I would wear dabs of NPA, versus using drops with PI. Dabs are less than drops, so perhaps that also plays a role in it. But overall, I think PI acts differently than NPA. PI is a bit more on the aggressive side. NPA is more sexual, but it doesn’t get too out of control for me.

But to get back to the topic of the thread, I have to say, NPA also has a similar affect of “duping” except that if I work in some nice conversation, the combination of the NPA and the conversation really make a solid impression on women. I think what it comes down to is that the stronger the androstenone you’re wearing, the more you have to “bring it” in terms of acting the part.

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