# Problems with getting rid of Androstenone - help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 10, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-getting-rid-of-androstenone-help/1492 "2007-01-10T04:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 37
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-getting-rid-of-androstenone-help/1492/37 "2007-01-14T12:59:24Z")
> [@](#): > > I know nothing about the herb, but as far as androstenol breaking down I know a couple thing for sure. There is a bacteria that eats -Androstenol and converts into -none. It is mostly in your armpits and around your nipples. The bacteria is associated with sweat glands. If you apply -Androstenol in areas with low amounts of sweat glands then the conversion rate is minuscule. Plus most of it would diffuse into the air prior to conversion. Oxygen also can convert -Androstenol to -none. It’s kind of tricky but from what i’ve read in 1 journal, a forum with a phero chemist, and around this forum, the oxygen conversion is rather slow and it seems to disipate before conversion. I’m sure a small portion converts so if you are constantly OD’ing on androstenol then you could have -none build up from that alone. > > I’d say stop using pheromones entirely fro 2-3 weeks. If you are puting off a cloud 30 ft in radius that is overly noticable:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: then you have a major problem. You need to let your system re-regulate. I’ve underestimated your situation. This is rather serious. Without proper engineering of a vehicle agent, none of this is _actually_ necessarily true, unless youre spraying it all in your armpits. Lor, I _know_ you are sensitive to 'none. Do you, in _the real world_, _actually_ FEEL an uncomfortable, uncontrollable Androstenone rage after 2-3 sprays of Spaceland/[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)/Alpha Androstenol? Smooth, do you? _Really_? Does anyone? A lot of you have **tons** of experience with Androstenol, and I’ve never heard anyone report major none-like effects to me. Even after several hours? I know some “reputable” pheromone “chemists” constantly try to connive you into thinking conversion happens. They cram it into the brains of newbies who will perpetuate the BS becuase they don’t know any better. Then everyone pretends its common knowledge, when this effect, in reality, _actually **doesn’t** happen!!_ I mean, suuure it does on a tiny little scale, but not in monstrous, frightening porportions. If that THEORY worked in reality, I would have to lock up in a fetal position and tremble at the mere mention of mega doses of Androste_nol_. Does that make sense to YOU? Here’s my take on Smooth’s situation, because baby, trust me, I’ve felt it before. My apartment is constantly bombarded with not only ONE pheromone user, but SEVERAL at any one time (a significant other, a bevvy of friends, relatives, rock stars and aspiring actors, you name it, all cycling through to spray on their chemical charisma). Over some months, you can only imagine the residue collecting… _down to the porous carpet pad._ How does one DEAL with this pheromonal fever? It’s much easier than you think, and you’ll feel like superman afterward. Just takes a little elbow grease. I’ve phone lectured Lor about the use of an **ozonator** to obliterate unseen toxins and traces of pheromone residue. We have an industrial ozonator “clearing the palate” in the lab every night. It outputs the same amount of O3 necessary to clear crime scenes and supermarket meat departments. You know when to turn it off when you come back and there is an extremely alpine-smelling fog of ozone. Some ozonators come with an attatchment that’s a tube with a little diffuser ball at the end. That one diffuses ozone into liquids (kind of like an aquarium filter). Sometimes I will fill up a small tub with some blazing hot water, drop in the ozonator ball and a few hot-water-safe garments, and deactivate anything remotely pheromonal. I usually blast my clothes with a straight shot of ozone, as well. I will just position the stinky parts (armpits, crotch, neck) of clothing in front of the ozone spout and its completely fresh and reset in a few minutes. Also. Important. Rent a Rug Doctor at your local supermarket. Forget the craptacular solvent-laden, seizure-causing solution they have there. Instead, opt for your own Ultimate Clean Slate PheroWiping Witches Brew: - near-boiling water - a heaping scoop of oxi clean - a heaping scoop of borax - a few tbsp Woolite Oxi Deep steam steam cleaning solution - Optional: a mL or so of tea tree oil Now suck the living fuzzballs out of your floor. Go slooow and steady. A foot per second is recommended. _You will be absolutely astounded at the crap that cleaner will suck up,_ and how white, shiny and beautiful your carpet is (and how **black** , murky and wretched the dirty water is). Your carpet becomes so white it will fluoresce. I mean, this is “call up the neighbor who you don’t even know and have him come over to gawk in awe at your carpet with you and later share a beer” type effects. It doesn’t stop there, either… Okay, big deal, it’s bright/clean, right? No way! Tip of the iceberg! My friend and I spent a half dozen weeknights sucking the residual crap out of my carpet. Immediately afterward I noticed a DRAMATIC upward change in my mood. Everything felt clear and calm and _good_. Immediately my epileptic cat (who is dosed heavily with potassium bromide to keep her seizures at bay, which consequently makes her act kind of like a stoner) was BOUNCY, darting everywhere like analert little panther. All around, the improvement was amazing. I could only imagine how many years of grit and residue was sucked up, obliterated, disinfected, DESTROYED by this special mix. Tip: Remember to wear lots of TAH when you return the machine. My local Ralph’s only charged me for 4 days, even though I kept the machine for 8! Another tip: Smooth, Start applying your 'pheromones in the shower (or some other non-porous haven that you can BLEACH THE CRAP OUT OF afterward). And While the shower is OFF, of course. I’m a stickler to having people apply in my bathroom where there is NO CARPET. Believe me, it makes an ENORMOUS difference. Call me if you want me to talk you through it. I know you can obliterate this Androstenone ghost haunting your house. Phero-busters! Consider me the Peter Venkman of pheromone hauntings. (Harris would be Egon Spengler, of course.) --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-getting-rid-of-androstenone-help/1492)._