# Producthood for CTTM2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825 "2008-02-02T23:25:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/1 "2008-02-02T23:25:46Z")
Isnt it about time CTTM2 is made into a product? Many people have written reporting great results with it. And we need a 4x version of it, too. ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/2 "2008-02-03T00:26:12Z")
It’s good idea.For me this product rules.I had various hits with it when people was more talkative and more sicere with me.I had experiences even when people come and start talking to me without me doing anything to initiate the contact.So it’s verry usefull product in my opinion and it really helps to use it along with androstenone products as to make verry simple yet poweful mix that attract girls and opens them socially toward you in the same time.So being percieved as arousing and giving the vibe to girls to socialise with you, can really increase your chances of having success in seducing women.And one more important thing, if u’re shy just use the self effects (spray in your front neck ) as to become more talkative and to overcome your shyness.Yeah, the seldf effects can make even verry shy guy to feel need of conversation and that way to feel more comfortably while talking with just anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Deeds407](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeds407/32/688_2.png) [@Deeds407](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deeds407)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/3 "2008-02-03T01:33:00Z")
i was thinking of getting some when i next put in a order 😃 Whats the smell like?? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/4 "2008-02-03T01:40:13Z")
I can’t say I’ve had better results with CTTM 2 than other androstenol products, but it’s certainly a solid offering and allows a middle ground between Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) alpha/beta ratios for those unable or unwilling to homebrew their own. I prefer a pure alpha androstenol buzz over beta or alpha/beta mixes. I get enough deep conversation at work to last the rest of my life… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/5 "2008-02-03T03:31:35Z")
It’s a simple 50/50 alpha/beta nol mix. One should be able to whip it up oneself from raw ingredients. Going that route also gives the ability to tweak the ratio one way or the other to suit personal preference. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/6 "2008-02-03T03:50:05Z")
I doubt it will be a mainline consumer product given Michael’s resistance for any name which doesn’t reflect the product’s performance. CTTM doesn’t make people come talk to the wearer (although it does sometimes). I do think it’s an attractive mix and when conversation starts it tends to keep it going. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/7 "2008-02-03T04:01:25Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > I doubt it will be a mainline consumer product given Michael’s resistance for any name which doesn’t reflect the product’s performance. CTTM doesn’t make people come talk to the wearer (although it does sometimes). I do think it’s an attractive mix and when conversation starts it tends to keep it going. Tater thinks it would be good to have the 2x and 4x options, and some scent options. It may be simple, but it works. You dont always need a 20-phero combo to get results. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/8 "2008-02-03T18:05:19Z")
I think it should definately be a product, however, if I was working at Androtics, I would consider making up a batch with [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in the mix and asking for test subjects. I honestly think it will actually help reflect the name far better. Well thats my opinion anyhow 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/9 "2008-02-04T15:10:52Z")
> [@Rattlesnake](#): > > I think it should definately be a product, however, if I was working at Androtics, I would consider making up a batch with P74 in the mix and asking for test subjects. I honestly think it will actually help reflect the name far better. Well thats my opinion anyhow 😃 I think something along the lines of what you said would be best. It would need some testing.. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/10 "2008-02-05T09:29:26Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Tater thinks it would be good to have the 2x and 4x options, and some scent options. It may be simple, but it works. You dont always need a 20-phero combo to get results. Tater you could take GWTWs’ and Gegogis’ tip and just get pure alpha and beta Androstenol and mix it up yourself…that way you you could choose the potency you require.You could also choose the scent 🙂 I think i might take it myself ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/11 "2008-02-05T10:52:24Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > Tater you could take GWTWs’ and Gegogis’ tip and just get pure alpha and beta Androstenol and mix it up yourself…that way you you could choose the potency you require.You could also choose the scent 🙂 > > I think i might take it myself It’s true.. in fact my carnival mix has alpha and beta androstenol in it too. I guess it’s a come talk to me mix too then but with added spice and TAC-iness.. 😃😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/12 "2008-02-05T11:02:51Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I get enough deep conversation at work to last the rest of my life… hmm.. with my carnival mix which has both alpha and beta I didn’t seem to get deep conversation, lots of fun flirty talk though 🆒🆒🆒 (probably due to the -none too)… ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/13 "2008-02-12T23:53:47Z")
is IO something like 70/30 alphanol/betanol, and IH 30/70? and people say that IH is better for attraction and when used with -none? is CTTM better for that than IH? and maybe why? so far im getting a feeling from reading reports that betanol is the big important part here, while alphanol just keeps people yapping like they cant stop… ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/producthood-for-cttm2/189825/14 "2008-02-13T17:15:46Z")
How about CTTM formula replacing the IO formula and being sold as IO and renaming IH to Instant Rapport…honesty is too much to expect from [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/).