# Professional Gay Male Testing Reality

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 21, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445 "2011-03-21T13:02:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![thebachelorboi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@thebachelorboi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebachelorboi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/1 "2011-03-21T13:02:38Z")

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Firstly: Sorry for the re-post, I have deleted the duplicate thread; but I wanted to make my introduction properly so I can get a gift cert too. 🙂

I am a 28 y/o Professional Gay Male, who is of average looks. I am 5’ 8.5", 165lbs, with generally short brown hair which I like to spike and hazel colored eyes. I’m just barely above average weight, but I by no means look overweight. I also have moderate body hair and facial hair, which I keep shaved 80% of the time, with the exception of a goatee I keep trimmed. I live on the Treasure Coast of Florida, the sunshine state. I’ve been out of the dating and social scene now for about 5 years, because of the untimely passing of my ex-lover.

That being said, things have drastically changed for me in the last 90 days. I met someone, which we will get into far more detail about as this journey progresses. I seem to have purpose in my life again, and a motivation and determination to become a better me and prove to this person I can be everything they ever wanted, just as they are to me.

So for the last month now I have been reading up all over the internet about pheremones and their use in various social environments. More specifically, I have been directly interested in the affects pheremones can provide for a Professional Gay Male, like myself, on both Straight Men and other Gay Men in both professional and social environemnts; as well as the resulting affects on nearby women. Much of my research has indicated that truly Gay Men, respond in the same manor in which a Female would respond to a Straight man; they respond to the natural male pheremones. While Straight Men will respond to pheremones like A314 when worn on another male, they require the female pheremone for an appropriate sexual response towards another man.

So the number one question for anyone wanting to try pheremones, “what is it that I want to get out pheremone use?”.

Purpose #1: I want to change the environment in which I work. I am the IT Consultant for a small shared office environment in an industrial area of Florida. There are six offices within the building which come to me for their IT and various other business needs. We are a close tight-nit group that works together and helps each other build our businesses for success. Sometimes, I get a bit overwhelmed and people tend to over-utilize me but not recognize the benifit they have in me. I am very under-paid and very over-worked. After more than a year of this, it has started show. I am looking for something to not only re-energize my attitude about work, but to inspire the others around me to change their attitude towards bothw their work and with me.

Purpose #2: I run several small online companies and a local business which I really want to ramp up into much bigger revenue-generating companies, which I know they can be. I put myself in too many hats and I need some focus and direction for myself and the confidence that I can push things forward in the right direction. I want to boost my own internal self-confidence and reliablity while inspiring others to help me. I want to be seen as a great leader and inspirational figure-head.

Purpose #3: I met another Gay Male just over a month ago. There was an instant an undeniable connection between us; but this person has been horribly hurt in the past and even physically abused by someone they thought they truly loved. This pain has caused a very long and meaningful process of us getting to know each other; but I fear that we may be stuck in a sort of friendship pattern that may make it hard to pursue anything more for some time. The thing is, I know that if he could just take that leap of faith and just give in to what we feel, he would find something more than he ever though he could have. Okay, a bit much to share at once, but it is the truth, all of our friends see it. I am looking for something to help deepen our personal connection, but at the same time ignite a passionate fire to make him want more than just friendship. I want him to feel like he can trust me, open up to me, fulfil his needs with, and know I am always going to be there. Things I know he knows, but is affraid to admit he knows. (I know I can liquor him up and get this affect, but I think he needs to open his eyes and see it when he is sober.)

Purpose #4: There is a persona that I would like to project while out in a bar or night club, but have not quite perfected. It’s something best described as Brian Kinney from Queer as Folk. It’s that guy that all the guys are looking at, trying to figure out. The one everyone wants to and trys to make moves on, but no one is going to get anywhere without his approval. When all of your friends see it and talk about it. It’s insaciable. You may ask why this matters, given the third purpose of pheremone use for myself; but here’s the thing…when I take that person out, it’s very hard to keep him focused, he is very much constantly observing and reading the people around him. I’ve noticed though, that when I dress and act a certain way, in which others notice me; he constantly wants to show others that im his property; which I very much like. So, for me to project that manly in demand feeling, he feeds off it.

So those are the main reasons for me wanting to try pheremones and what you will find me discussing here as my journey unfolds. Nearly all of my research has pointed me here to Androtics Direct and after weeks of debating and calling and reading forums; I decided only minutes ago to take the plunge. I placed the following order:

TOGO-IO  
TOGO-TUTH (qty x 2)  
TOGO-IS  
TOMO-AMMO  
TOGO-IH  
A314/sp/A  
TOGO-IG

I pretty much chose one of every To-Go spray that was available. I would have also ordered [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) (which I very badly want to test out), but it has been out of stock for some time and from what I hear may not be around again for a while. I also chose A314.A because of the fact I live in Florida and the overpowering number of males my workplace and business. I decided with the To-Go sprays for several reasons..

(1) Pricing for Demonstrative Purposes  
(2) Portability and Convinience in Changing Affects  
(3) Shorter Duration - Incase of Disasters

My order should be out on Monday and I can’t wait to get Tuesday’s mail to begin some serious testing! I’m working on some very specific testing sceanrios so, please keep an eye out for my postings. If anyone would like to offer any advice or tips on combinations for first-timers, feel free!

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/2 "2011-03-21T14:00:34Z")

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Hey thebachelorboi, Welcome! You definitely found the best place to learn about and use [pheromones](https://a314.com/). Your plans sound interesting, I believe there are a few others actively testing the same objective.

But I wanted to comment from my own experience with women. If they don’t feel for you a certain way or already categorized you as a friend the pheromones won’t persuade otherwise. But what they can do is help the two of you communicate, bond, and connect easier.

I believe your on the right track to make some good tests! Look forward to hearing what you discover.

> [@thebachelorboi](#):
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> So for the last month now I have been reading up all over the internet about pheremones and their use in various social environments. More specifically, I have been directly interested in the affects pheremones can provide for a Professional Gay Male, like myself, on both Straight Men and other Gay Men in both professional and social environemnts; as well as the resulting affects on nearby women. Much of my research has indicated that truly Gay Men, respond in the same manor in which a Female would respond to a Straight man; they respond to the natural male pheremones. While Straight Men will respond to pheremones like [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) when worn on another male, they require the female pheremone for an appropriate sexual response towards another man.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/3 "2011-03-21T19:04:49Z")

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Welcome to the mone forum! I’m… not sure where to begin!! You’ve got such a great intro post! You have explained exquisitely in your 4 points, specifically, what you want out of your mones! It’s been a while since I’ve seen such a clearly explained intro post… Congrats!!! 🙂

TOGO’s are the way to go for testing and ease of re-application during the day. That’s great that your trying out all of the Togo’s… Personally, I started out with IS in a TOGO to see what mones do to me and those around me. Once you get started, go to the men’s forum and start up a new thread for your journal.

It’s one of those things that you need to get out of your system, just going crazy with the mones and try out several crazy combo’s to ‘see’ your results. Now, once you get it out of your system, the mone crazy’s, then try them out one at a time, slowly incrementing your amounts while you observe your self effects and the effects on others.

Post up your experiences on your journal and will check in on you once in a while! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/4 "2011-03-22T21:42:58Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk Bachlerboi!

First of the [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) that straight men use to attract females is the same products that will be and are successful in gay men attracting other males.

A314 is a great product for work and if you are able to understand the product and use it well it will work wonders in your sex and social life as well.

This product I recommend for all men on this forum who can pull it off.

If you are shy , awkward and unsure A314 is not for you at the moment but you can work up to it by using Ammo as a confidence boaster and IG which gives similar effect but it’s more approachable and less dominant.

For your friend I suggest instant honesty for a warm, closeness. He will feel he can trust you and it will allow him to open up more.

Ammo also to give off that strong sexual vibe without being too harsh or over powering. If he has been through something like what you described you want to be patient and gentle

For a club scene that is highly sexual tuth will do a great job.

**Your gc was issued! 🆒**

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**Author:** ![thebachelorboi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@thebachelorboi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebachelorboi)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/5 "2011-03-24T23:53:27Z")

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So I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who welcomed me to the community. I have a feeling this is going to be one wickedly awesome ride for a lot of people, including myself! I’m actually a few days into my Phero Baptism now and I have some really good feelings about where things are going to go. I have a lot more testing scenarios in mind and I’m working on some specific record keeping for those who are interested in the more detailed side of things.

I really wanted to make a shoutout to 1Alpha for his compliments on my original post. As well as Mickaelia for her insightfulness in both confirming my original research and helping to give me some direction in getting started. In particular I liked your approach of IG + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to get started at work; although I was a little skeptical about the Ammo, it seems like it was more of what I needed for myself than for others which was great. I decided to go with IG + IH + Ammo, which seemed to give me just the right affect for my existing workplace. As for with my friend, IH over IO was definately a better choice. I have found with IO he is way more friendly; but with IH, he actually cuddles with me, lets me embrace him and comfort him. I could spray IH all day just to keep close to him 😃 As for TUTH, i noticed it helps him accept the fact he is into me and wants to show it more to me both in words and physically. I only wish I would have went for that third spray the other night _wink_!

Also, I want to say that I havent felt more like a welcomed family member like I have with this Forum and Androtics. The fact you reward your customers for loyalty and how far you go out of your way to help people is amazing! Not only did I get a free $5.00 for signing up, my first order gave me $10 in rewards and it came with 3 extra products I didnt even order, plus some candies. To top it off I also now have a Gift Card for posting in the forums…add it all up and I have gotten about $80 worth of free products just for spending $100.00! I mean really, thank you! I can’t wait to place my next order and don’t think it will be my last! _GRINS_ KUDOS!!!

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**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/6 "2011-03-27T03:42:29Z")

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> [@thebachelorboi](#):
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> As for with my friend, IH over IO was definately a better choice. I have found with IO he is way more friendly; but with IH, he actually cuddles with me, lets me embrace him and comfort him. I could spray IH all day just to keep close to him 😃 As for TUTH, i noticed it helps him accept the fact he is into me and wants to show it more to me both in words and physically. I only wish I would have went for that third spray the other night _wink_!

Heya thebachelorboi,

This happened in the office environment??? 😛 I mean did you use TUTH at work??? 😮

I am going to spray myself crazy with loads and loads IH and see if I get cuddles 😃

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**Author:** ![thebachelorboi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@thebachelorboi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebachelorboi)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/7 "2011-03-27T23:03:30Z")

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> [@little](#):
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> Heya thebachelorboi,
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> This happened in the office environment??? 😛 I mean did you use TUTH at work??? 😮
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> I am going to spray myself crazy with loads and loads IH and see if I get cuddles 😃

These specific reactions were on gay male that I met a little over a month ago that I have become very close friends with but want to take it to the next level. While he also comes to the office with me sometimes, these affects were all later when we were home alone.

I’ve been finding that IG x2 sprays + IH x2 sprays + Ammo x1 spray is a great combination for the office. But it in no way is causing people to cuddle with me around the office. See my post: [Professional Gay Male in the Workplace](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-in-the-workplace/49452)

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**Author:** ![Txfox76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txfox76/32/2307_2.png) [@Txfox76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Txfox76)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/8 "2011-03-28T16:09:34Z")

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Welcome Thebachelorboi, nice to meet you 🙂  
I was going to recommend IH for the guy frined but I see Mickaelia beat me to it, so instead, I offer a hearty “Yeah, what she said!”

If I were going to rename IH I’d call it “Instant Intimacy” it is like people can’t help but say what they are feeling or thinking. It is excellent for removing “buffers and filters”

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**Author:** ![tperesf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb8c5e/32.png) [@tperesf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tperesf)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/professional-gay-male-testing-reality/49445/9 "2011-04-24T21:42:39Z")

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Bachelor Boy, I am also gay and I am trying to make up my mind for my next order.  
I am looking for the perfect pheromone to attract other gay guys and, while [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) seems to be eternally out of stock, I’ve been considering to test a recipe for gay men given by Steve in another post, consisting on a mix of IS, IH, IO, IG, TUTH and P83. Problem is: This will turn out to be too expensive and may not even work the way I want it to.

So, I’ve been considering an option two, which would be The Alpha A314.  
What is your experience with using it with other gay males?

One good point of Alpha A314 is that is seems (from what I’ve read) it would also be pretty good for projecting myself in the work environemnt
