# Public Announcement: Why I am no longer using androstenone **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 3, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/public-announcement-why-i-am-no-longer-using-androstenone/58048 "2013-02-03T18:37:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 22
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/public-announcement-why-i-am-no-longer-using-androstenone/58048/22 "2013-02-07T14:18:17Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > You out of all people would know, you used to be the admin here and have helped countless of people here and given feedback. I’ve read a good amount of reports here which mimics a lot of what others have reported previously. I’m not going to just say it from memory and I’ll look up specific posts if I can find instances from a report that people read and tested that conincidentally multiplied exponentially. > > And tisha, I’m not even speaking about what those people say. But collaborative obsevations I’ve done here in conjunction with some members that widely contradicted the herd reports we’ve done here. > > And to evolver, > > Let’s agree to disagree. > > Everytime someone here offers a dissenting opinion droves of people automatically come and rebute it. No I’m not trash talking AD, I’m still using my IBF combo to great success but really think about it, how much of how these molecules are used are really about internal mechanisms that blossom because of a belief that mones work. I believe they do and seen it myself but not to the extent of what most people say. When you’re into it all the time and immersed you won’t see the other side and equate a lot of what you see/do/experience on them. > > But nothing I can do to change your mind on the subject so I’ll drop it. How about this: is there any doubt that very few men out there have natural NONE at levels (armpits mainly) above 10 mcg.? Has anyone read otherwise? Is it safe to say that wearing amounts of above 5 mcg., you’re getting closer and closer to a powerful amount not found in nature? You have to add what’s on you to what your body produces. Two sprays of AMMO – yes, you could have 10+ of NONE on you. What of this: [Pheromone dosage response curves](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-dosage-response-curves/100) Is there any Real dispute that NONE OD does exist or that it isn’t essentially a fundamental truth? What about what is said in the link re an “attack/war dose?” I think that makes a pretty powerful theoretical statement. Is there any real doubt here? If so, where? Not as to semantics but the Core theory and concept. That said, I disagree with nothing in the linked post, which is why I don’t buy from other cos. The whole chemical formulary requires a proper theoretical framework, which AD has and **some** others don’t. “But nothing I can do to change your mind on the subject so I’ll drop it.” You can change my mind. My mind has changed as a result of wearing some hefty NONE and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). I’m talking prob. 20-40 mcg. combined in places I Know to be Dangerous. I’m more interested in Why you think they way you do. There are no wrong intellectual arguments. It is by dissent that the truth is discovered, thought the Greeks. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/public-announcement-why-i-am-no-longer-using-androstenone/58048)._