# Pushing someone over the edge with P81 + P83? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 30, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493 "2009-11-30T20:36:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/1 "2009-11-30T20:36:13Z")
I’m posting this in the Men’s section for a reason… I have a target who responds well to [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (lot’s of touching, hugging, playfulness) & from what I’ve read on the forum about P81 it gives some of the guys, well, a woody. I’m thinking of adding it to the P83 & seeing if I can push said target over the edge. What do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/2 "2009-11-30T20:46:11Z")
> [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > I’m posting this in the Men’s section for a reason… > > I have a target who responds well to P83 (lot’s of touching, hugging, playfulness) & from what I’ve read on the forum about P81 it gives some of the guys, well, a woody. I’m thinking of adding it to the P83 & seeing if I can push said target over the edge. What do you guys think? Are you serious. Lady don’t play with me , if P81 has the ability to do that I want , no I need to know…Tell me so I can get my x-mas [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) order in.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/3 "2009-11-30T20:51:43Z")
I’ve never tried P81 with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) but I really like it with P75 and yeah, it does have a tendency to make me stand up and salute for no apparent reason. I’ve also worn it with Meo-Est and TAC instead of ~none and it gives both me and my GF a good time. I say go for it, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. Just be sure to report your findings for us! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/4 "2009-11-30T20:59:29Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > Are you serious. Lady don’t play with me , if P81 has the ability to do that I want , no I need to know…Tell me so I can get my x-mas pheromone order in.😃 Of course I’m serious! I’ve had enough of him “Dicking Around” 😛. I’ve been having very bad fantasies about his long dark hair & where I should feel it’s silkiness…sorry, zoned out there for a minute. I am soooo ready to give that boy the proverbial push off the cliff 😮 I guess I need to order this today & get overnight in time for Friday. I’ll let you know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/5 "2009-11-30T21:00:56Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > I’ve never tried P81 with P83 but I really like it with P75 and yeah, it does have a tendency to make me stand up and salute for no apparent reason. I’ve also worn it with Meo-Est and TAC instead of ~none and it gives both me and my GF a good time. I say go for it, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. > > Just be sure to report your findings for us! 😃 Hey, even a salute for no reason is still a good salute! As Mae West said “A Hard Man Is Good To Find!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/6 "2009-11-30T21:01:38Z")
Ooh, you are so naughty! Hopefully this will help you take matters into your own hands, so to speak. 🙂 > [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > Of course I’m serious! I’ve had enough of him “Dicking Around” 😛. I’ve been having very bad fantasies about his long dark hair & where I should feel it’s silkiness…sorry, zoned out there for a minute. I am soooo ready to give that boy the proverbial push off the cliff 😮 > > I guess I need to order this today & get overnight in time for Friday. I’ll let you know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/7 "2009-11-30T21:03:19Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Ooh, you are so naughty! Hopefully this will help you take matters into your own hands, so to speak. 🙂 I’d rather he took matters into his hands… ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/8 "2009-11-30T21:10:22Z")
> [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > Of course I’m serious! I’ve had enough of him “Dicking Around” 😛. I’ve been having very bad fantasies about his long dark hair & where I should feel it’s silkiness…sorry, zoned out there for a minute. I am soooo ready to give that boy the proverbial push off the cliff 😮 > > I guess I need to order this today & get overnight in time for Friday. I’ll let you know how it goes. Oh girl I love how you think. Marry me! I am getting excited thinking of how you going to get him in that spot and render him helpless with your womanly powers. I am so with you on this. NAUGHTY , NAUGHTY, NAUGHTY! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/9 "2009-11-30T21:26:03Z")
Just a suggestion for when you order, you shouldn’t need to get anything more than 12.5mcg per spray. A couple of sprays should be all it takes (I’ve worn it from 12.5-50mcg). I’m a pretty happy, horny guy to begin with and 12.5 was MORE than adequate. 😃 No need to waste money getting a stronger dose than you need. I know I deserve a good spanking for not posting on this but the self effects were a bit embarrassing. :o ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/10 "2009-11-30T21:41:18Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Just a suggestion for when you order, you shouldn’t need to get anything more than 12.5mcg per spray. A couple of sprays should be all it takes (I’ve worn it from 12.5-50mcg). I’m a pretty happy, horny guy to begin with and 12.5 was MORE than adequate. 😃 No need to waste money getting a stronger dose than you need. > > I know I deserve a good spanking for not posting on this but the self effects were a bit embarrassing. :o We understand babes…lol…Not really , am laughing my butt off over here. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/11 "2009-11-30T21:57:28Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Just a suggestion for when you order, you shouldn’t need to get anything more than 12.5mcg per spray. A couple of sprays should be all it takes (I’ve worn it from 12.5-50mcg). I’m a pretty happy, horny guy to begin with and 12.5 was MORE than adequate. 😃 No need to waste money getting a stronger dose than you need. > > I know I deserve a good spanking for not posting on this but the self effects were a bit embarrassing. :o LOL now your secret is out! ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/12 "2009-11-30T22:36:56Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Just a suggestion for when you order, you shouldn’t need to get anything more than 12.5mcg per spray. A couple of sprays should be all it takes (I’ve worn it from 12.5-50mcg). I’m a pretty happy, horny guy to begin with and 12.5 was MORE than adequate. 😃 No need to waste money getting a stronger dose than you need. > > I know I deserve a good spanking for not posting on this but the self effects were a bit embarrassing. :o Noted. Thanks dear! ---
**Author:** ![Butcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Butcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butcher)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/13 "2009-12-01T03:58:17Z")
I have never tried P81. But [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) at 20 mcg makes me disturbingly hot 😉 I would guess that P83 at 12.5 mcg and 2 sprays to her throat/neck would direct my _attention_ to her 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/14 "2009-12-01T15:21:39Z")
P81 is definitely good stuff. I haven’t had the involuntary salute effect… or maybe, it happened when I was around the one woman I have so far met who made me salute all the time anyway. lol But I have noticed that it turns me into a deviant alpha horndog. Careful with this one. OD can make a guy act really bizzare. It does me, at least. I find that my maximum dose is 22.5 mcg if I don’t want to act like an arrogant … well… prick. ---
**Author:** ![Sicpric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sicpric](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sicpric)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/15 "2009-12-01T15:27:08Z")
> [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > I am soooo ready to give that boy the proverbial push off the cliff > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/eek.gif](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/eek.gif) If he’s like 99% of the other guys out there, simply try asking! lol ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/16 "2009-12-01T18:02:21Z")
> [@Sicpric](#): > > If he’s like 99% of the other guys out there, simply try asking! lol I don’t think he works that way. He’s a little shy & sometimes gets freaked by strong independent women. I want to push him over the cliff BUT make him think it was his idea. ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/17 "2009-12-03T00:49:48Z")
Where the HELL is my package! (drums fingers on table impatiently…) ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/18 "2009-12-03T00:51:22Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > naughty , naughty, naughty! yes, yes, yes!!! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/19 "2009-12-03T01:14:22Z")
Alcohol! 😃 > [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > I don’t think he works that way. He’s a little shy & sometimes gets freaked by strong independent women. I want to push him over the cliff BUT make him think it was his idea. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/20 "2009-12-03T01:25:01Z")
Alcohol + mones should get him moving And I’m curious to see how this mix pans out. p83 is amazing.. haven’t tested p81 but if it does what people are saying it does.. this could be a lot of fun. I’d suggest throwing some TAC in the mix too as folks have mentioned that it adds to orgasm intensity [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493.md?page=2)