# Pushing someone over the edge with P81 + P83?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 30, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493 "2009-11-30T20:36:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/14 "2009-12-01T15:21:39Z")

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P81 is definitely good stuff. I haven’t had the involuntary salute effect… or maybe, it happened when I was around the one woman I have so far met who made me salute all the time anyway. lol But I have noticed that it turns me into a deviant alpha horndog. Careful with this one. OD can make a guy act really bizzare. It does me, at least. I find that my maximum dose is 22.5 mcg if I don’t want to act like an arrogant … well… prick.

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