# Putative Pheromone P109 - Happy, Bubbly, Friendly **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [June 3, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096 "2014-06-03T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KDC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea666f/32.png) [@KDC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KDC)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/1 "2014-06-03T15:04:36Z")
\*\*[Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) P109 - Happy, Bubbly, Friendly \*\* [Experimone](https://a314.com/)\*\*? \*\*[Putative](https://a314.com/) Pheromone P109 \*\*Check it out in store here: \*\* [Putative P109 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Available in all dosages between 125 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray. **Dosage Guidance (Successful Ranges Tested So Far):** **Common ways to apply: 12.5 mcg - calm and contented, nice feeling, 20 mcg to 37.5 mcg - bubbly, happy, 50mcg - jovial, bouncy** \*Please keep in mind this is merely what has worked well in the past for a very limited number of users who have conducted a limited number of tests. This information is merely provided as a convenient starting point. It’s good to be open minded and adventurous, as it’s quite possible that dosages much smaller and perhaps even larger provide useful (though often different) responses. Many molecules we have are active in at least 2 useful ranges.\* \*\*Observed P109 Effects: \*\* **Happy, Attractive, Light, Silly, Friendly, Bubbly, Uplifting** Majority of users expressed that P109 gives an uplifting, happy feeling to the user. The users felt they became friendly and lost social anxiety. It helps a person to interact with other people. In spite of that, a few said it had no effect to them. One reason said is that they are used to another pheromone/putative. One user attributed P109 with irateness of his family members. Another user said it would help a person mellow in a moody day but not really make someone ?up?. Some users said P109 has little to no external effects, though many users stated people on their surroundings acted better on them with P109. My observation is that P109 has an effect to the user and that uplifting and confident effect to a user made others respond nicely to the user. It’s an indirect effect at least. Pets like dogs and cats are said to be affected by P109. Using P109 with other products also create a more intense effect. \*\*Interesting Combos: \*\* - 1 drop of A314 + 1 spray TUTH + 1 spray 7.5mcg P79 + 1 spray 12.5mcg P109 ? giggly, intimate - 2 sprays of P109 on the neck (20mcg total) + 1 spray of IS 2x on the neck + 1 spray of IS 2x on the hair ? delightful, friendly - 7 sprays of 10 mcg P109 + Instant shine 3 sprays ? happy and friendly - 5 sprays of 10mcg P109 + 4 sprays of tal (12.5mcg) ? calm but serious, polite responses from others - _Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread [link]!_ **Real User Feedback:** > [@](#): > > \A weird thing happened this morning. I was sleeping on my side in bed & my 4 yr old female kitty was trying to get down the neck of my nightshirt! She kept trying to stick her nose in my cleavage. Last night, I was wearing IS/B, which I’ve worn many times around her, andP109, which I just got. > > Anybody else ever have this happen with P109 & cats? - **ladyofthewoods** ]([http://www.pheromonetalk.com/p109-kitties-64883.html?highlight=P109#post499228A](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-kitties/59504)) > [@](#): > > \I know p109 does a dog tried to pull my pants off with its mouth like growling at me and then when my friends mom tied him up he was staring me down and we had a staring contest hahahaha. - **Jstn** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-and-tuth-effect-on-animals/44111/3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-and-tuth-effect-on-animals/44111/3)) > [@](#): > > \I like what P109 does for me, in a joking fun mood. > > I spray about 25mcgs today and it really is a carefree lighthearted vibe that it gives you. Its like a party time/fun time molecule on how it affects me. > > You know I did notice however I was getting irritation from nonesense, but I’m chalking that up to my exhausted nature this morning. > > Also for example, I spilled hot tea, all over myself, this morning and all I did was laugh about it. It kinda gives you that “laugh about it now because in the bigger picture, it doesn’t matter” - **P51Mustang** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/380](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/380)) > [@](#): > > \ P109 helped to bring everyone together and made where I was a central location for everything. I also had some of the other staff who do not answer to me, come up and ask me for help. I want to say this is somewhat authoritative in a way that there is a trustworthy vibe that comes with it. - **P51Mustang** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/951](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/951)) > [@](#): > > \ I’ve been making everyone around the office laugh. I feel like I’m just having so much fun today - **P51Mustang** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/370](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/370)) > [@](#): > > \Products > > - P109 Unfragranced 10mcg > - IS 2x > > Dosage > > - Two sprays of P109 on the neck (20mcg total) > - One spray of IS 2x on the neck > - One spray of IS 2x on the hair > > Self-Effect > Initially, I felt rather delightful. This is more than what I’ll normally experience with IS alone (or regular IS mix), after all, I am so accustomed to IS by now (it is in my daily mix). Then, after maybe one hour, I was beginning to feel a little irritated and short-tempered. > > Notable Events > > 1. Had an argument with a family member (FM1) over where to go for lunch, which had never happened before. It was quite a silly argument but I can’t seem to help it. > 2. Had another argument with a stranger, on some really small stuff that I can’t even recall. > 3. Was waiting for my car and a lady approached me for direction. The unusual part is the way she looked at me, and how her eyes lingered even after I pointed the right way to her. And yes, she repeated what I said and I felt she was trying to extend the conversation. She is not cute. I was in a hurry. > 4. At the restaurant, the waitress (cute) was overwhelmingly welcoming. She being Japanese may have something to do with it, but I still feel that she is extremely warm and “interested”. But I was with the said FM1. > 5. Had yet another argument with FM1… which was rather unbelievable as I have tried to tone down and just do my own things… wtf is P109 doing to me and people around me? > 6. Went to a fruit stall after dinner… not my first time but the owner (male) was unusually friendly today. Had a great chat, bought some fruits and he even offered some free samples of other fruits when I was about to leave (also never happened before). > > Given that I am hardly an combative individual, I must attribute P109 to my heightened level of irateness (or to others). That being said, it does also makes me appear more “friendly” and allow others to act more “friendly” towards me. Maybe the negative effect only work on family member (or those who was used to my regular phero signatures). Anyway, what a weird stuff! - **phillykid** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-decidedly-mixed-results/38455/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-decidedly-mixed-results/38455)) > [@](#): > > ?I went phero free for 3 days and decided to test P109. Days 1 and 2 with P109 really didn’t seem to give me any self effects or effects on others that I could obviously see. This was wearing it to work and a couple of watering holes. > > On Day 3, I decided to up the dose as the day went on. 1 spray is 12.5 mcgs. > > 6:45am leave for work and 1 spray onto the back of my hands and wipe under chin. Drove to work and every thing was rather deja vue - just another day. > > 7:15am another spray like the first and walk into Diner E. I ordered my breakfast and just another morning. Sure do like watching Ms. M’s bottom as she serves the different tables. Cute nose too! I’m calm and contented. I drink my coffee quickly so to get to see her walk away again. > > 8:15am at work and yet another spray on the back of the hands and wipe onto my jaw. Talked with a co-worker, Ms. E, and she is happy this morning. > > What the heck - 8:30am another spray - this time to my upper chest. > > I’m very calm and collected and studious about my work. Ooops, got sidetracked when I was looking something up on the internet and found an interesting article not related. Tsk! Tsk! > > 10:00 break another spray to the back of the hands and wipe on jaw and head down to the lunchroom. People are chatting about boring and superfluous stuff - I grab a water and bag of chips and head back to my cubicle. Work work work - Oh! It is now - > > 12:45pm and another spray and head down to the burger joint. Uneventful. > > 2:45pm and another spray. > > 3:00pm screw this - I’ve had enough and the boss isn’t around to help and got an email that an incompetent boss is being promoted higher up the ladder. I suppose it is nasty for me to wish to be around when that mighty one takes a fall. I’m going to Watering Hole N! > > 3:30pm I arrive at the watering hole and just the barmaid is there. We exchange pleasantries and share disappointments of the day. I’m self-absorbed about that interesting article I saw on the internet and am wondering what it is that I’m missing from my big sociological picture of the world I live in. > > About 4pm three of the regulars have shown up and I hit the men’s room and put on 3 sprays - the bottle is almost empty. There’s nothing unusual to note about their behavior or conversation. > > I paid my bill at 5pm and went home. Went to bed early too. > > So, what is P109? Calm and contented to be apathetic? Or was that just myself three days in a row? Someone else needs to try this brew and help figure this one out. - **Jedi\_Nights** ]( [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-solo/33336/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-solo/33336)) > [@](#): > > \ Product and dosage: > > p109, grapefruit fragrance > 7:00am - 12.5mcg, neck/chest > 10:00am - 37.5mcg, hair, wrists, neck/chest > > Environment: > At work, small hospital > > Self effects: > Initially, nothing. > > After the second application of 37.5, my mood became…jovial, ebullient maybe even, though not in any loud way…there was a bounce to my step, and I felt a nice cheerfulness, not-quite-bubbly-ness…my “hi” to coworkers that I encountered felt brighter and more heartfelt, more sincere (though my greeting in always sincere, and truly meant, it just felt…more so). I felt more confident and focused as well. > > Somehow I felt more energy, less procrastination. I felt more efficient, and when the courier returned with work I had to do, which I usually just ignore until I feel like doing it, I got right to it without a sigh or pause. > > Effects/others: > Patients and coworkers responded to my efficient cheerfulness with cheerfulness and appreciation, perhaps even with more respect than usual. > > People who came into my office (housekeeping, courier, secretary) kind of hung out for a little while and spent more time than normal in the course of their duties, chatting. > > Were they affected by the putative, or were they responding to my attitude? > > Factors that might have affected effects on both self and others: > Today, for the first time in a few months, I decided to walk to work rather than drive, because I was feeling in need of exercise. This might have also contributed to increased energy and better mood. > > Also, I had set my clock for 5:30am thinking to get up and walk in the park before I had to be at work at 7:00am. As usual, I hit the snooze button repeatedly until 6:45am, then jumped up and rushed around showering and dressing frantically. > > As I walked out the door at 6:55am, I looked at my cellphone to check a missed call. To my surprise, it was only 5:55am!! Somehow when I set my clock the night before, I must have accidentally hit the “set time” button at some point. > > Suddenly I had a whole hour before work, and it felt really good. Though I didn’t do the walk in the park (since I had already showered by then), I sat on the front step for awhile, then leisurely walked to work. > > Conclusion: > I should accidentally set my clock too early more often, lol. > But seriously, I need to try this one again with my normal yucky morning rush and no walking to work. Or get up early, walk to work and then not try p109, and see if I have a similar day. - **SillyKitty** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-at-work/29181/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-at-work/29181)) > [@](#): > > \ Here’s my test results w/ P109 (NOT MX109 ). I haven’t read any threads about this one and if I did, I don’t remember so no pre-conceived notions here! Observations are self-effects only as I did NOT notice any effect on others at any time. These are not subsequent days, just random here and there when I thought I’d have the most interaction w/ others. > > Test #1 (at work; interaction w/ employees & customers off & on throughout day) > > # Sprays: 1 > > App Point: throat > Scent: no smell on drydown beyond initial alcohol smell > Inital Observation: none > 5 min Observation: none > 15 min Observation: none > > # Sprays: 1 (approx 15 min after 1st Application) > > App Point: throat > Initial Observation: none > 30 min Observation: none > > #Sprays: 1 (approx 30 min after 2nd Application) > App Point: throat > Initial Observation: none > 15 min Observation: not much ambition; I pretty much wasted the rest of the work day doing not much of anything > > different day ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Test #2 (In my car on the way to the bank in town, then returned to work) > > I really wanted to see what self-effects, if any, I would have @ high doses, so I sprayed 2 sprays to throat and then unscrewed the lid and breathed from the bottle during my 5 minute drive to town AND BACK (yes…that’s 10 min of inhale-time!). I figured if there were any self-effects, this would definitely do it! LOL! Initially, the only effect I got was the tip of my nose tingling but I think this was just from the extra oxygen from my deep breaths and probably a little from the alcohol in the mix. > > 10 min Observation: Tingling in nose gone; no effects noticed on the ladies @ the bank > 30 min Observation: Back at work; tired; lazy > > #Sprays: 2 more (approx 30 min after initial application & sniffing test) > App Point: throat > Initial Observation: no change from the tiredness/laziness > > 15 min Observation: I felt like I should go home & sit on the couch and meditate; not able to focus on one thing for very long; scatter-brained > > 1 hour Observation: same so I decided to spray on some Shine which I always get an initial “rush” from and then a giddy, energetic feeling for approx 2-3 hours; Sprayed 2 sprays Instant Shine 2x to throat > > Initial Observation w/ Shine addition: same “bleh”, mellowed out, lazy feeling; NO initial rush like I usually get from Shine > > 5 min Observation w/ Shine addition: Sprayed 1 more spray Instant Shine 2x to throat/face; weak “rush” feeling; no “up lifting” like I usually get > > 20 min Observation: same so I Sprayed 2 sprays of TAF (25 mcg); usually Shine w/ a spray or two really gets me buzzed and wired, but this time, the effects were mild like what I would normally see w/ a very small amount of Shine/ TAF ; was able to get more done @ work, but at a slower, less hurried pace than usual; still somewhat lack of ambition; initially I chalked this up to just one of those days kinda thing but my other tests w/ Shine and TAFhad very similar results; TAF alone w/ P109 gave me a spaced out feeling > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~different day~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Test #3 (church; grocery store; home w/ 3 little kids) > > #Sprays: 3 > App Point: hair & throat > Initial Observation: none > > 15 min Observation: chilled out; not griping @ the kids to get ready for church as usual; more of a “whatever goes” attitude > > 30 min Observation: kind of zoned out in church; hearing but not really listening; slightly tired; this is unusual for me as I enjoy this normally > > 90 min Observation: at the grocery store, I think I could have just spent the afternoon wandering up and down the isles, thinking of everything, yet nothing in particular > > 2 hour Observation: at home; feeling lazy; kids were kind of wild (they are 7, 5, and 3 years old) but didn’t seem to bother me @ all even after they spilled red koolaid on the carpet and tipped over the trash can in their over-zealous attempts to imitate their favorite race car drivers. LOL! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I tested and managed to use up 2 TOGO’s all with very similar results as above: > > I was thinking maybe it would mellow out someone in a bitchy mood, not bring them “up” per se like Shine or IFM , but more bring “down” the bitchiness. Maybe to the point where you think you should just sit on the couch and think about it for a while! LOL! > > For me, it seemed to nearly negate all effects of the Shine! And I gotta have my Shine!!! - **river** ]([P109 a No-Go w/ Shine?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-a-no-go-w-shine/25304/1)) > [@](#): > > \ I doused myself with 5 sprays P109 (3x neck, 1x hair (or what’s left of it ) and 1x spread between both hands) - nothing else. I didn’t notice any scent other than the one coming from the alcohol, and after the drydown it was completely odourless to me. > > After spraying it on I felt something changing - a self effect I couldn’t describe in any way, I just felt that it did something. I went shopping for an hour and during this time it became more and more clear what has changed: I always feel a slight little social anxiety lurking somewhere in me when I’m out (after all I’m what you’d call a ‘lone wolf’ type, and social activities always put a little stress on me). But not this time - it was gone, and I felt totally relaxed and content. Nice! I have the feeling that there’s more to it - but I still can’t describe it fully. There’s some physical aspect to it, too… Maybe a physical relaxation, too?? _shrugs_ Btw, no signs of the ‘drunken’ feeling that P103 seems to give me (I’ll give this one a try again after I received my bottles with perfumers alcohol in a diluted version - the 50 mcg per spray proved to be far too strong). > > I didn’t notice any effect on others - but provided they got the same effects as me it would be extremely hard to spot on strangers. I’ll give it a try when I’m back at the office next week - I might be able to see a difference in the people I know. > > I’d say if this effect of easing anxieties proves to be consistent, P109 might become a useful addition to mixes for people who suffer from a little anxiety or stress. We’ll see… - **bubblebob** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-p109/24339/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thoughts-on-p109/24339)) > [@](#): > > \ P109 - Social Testing > > Earlier testing of P109 by other members [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-pretty-cool/22358](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-pretty-cool/22358) ,[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-another-report-this-stuff-is-awesome-confirmed/22632](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-another-report-this-stuff-is-awesome-confirmed/22632)[](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/11)suggests a relaxing self effect and a friendly, happy social effect. > > Based on that assesment, I looked for test environment that was moderately stressful and/or streneous around people that i have a baseline familiarity with. > > Environment - major urban area > Activity - delivery route > Subjects - short term (15min. or less)exposure (within a 6ft radius) to aprox. 30 test subjects. 90% male, 90% with 2yrs. or more familiarity > > Zero Hour > The stroke of midnight Dia Del Muertes, the witching hour All Hallows Eve (for a little added tension and weirdity) > > 60mcg - forearms and chest > > 15 min > First receiver signed without a count. He said “is it right?” I said “yes” He signed. > I have never known him to sign without a count no matter how small the order or how busy. > > 1 hour > Situation normal. Test subjects behaving normally. Heavy traffic, moving well. No noticeable self effect. > > 1 1/2 hours > Some residual muscle pain, no change from baseline. > > 2 hours > 50mcg - forearms and chest (MT, no mas) > > 2 hours > 4th reciever on time. pressure’s off. subject behaviors ordinary. > > 2 1/2 hours > Heard the police department helicopter cruise past at what sounded like a normal altitude. Not unusual in the city at night. Then i realized that i was inside a building, in a room with 20+ people working, moving boxes, carts rolling back and forth. Then realized that i was hearing 3 seperate trucks idleing outside at the dock and 2 seperate refrigeration compressors running outside. It is possible that there was a general increase in auditory perception. The effect that i was most aware of was that sounds were more sharply defined, clearly seperated from each other. This lasted less than 15 min. > > 3 1/2 hours > Usual 30-45 min rest period. Comfortable power nap, no dreams. > > 5 1/2 hours > subjects behavior normal > now the city awakens > time to sit up and dance > > 8 hours > empty, outbound, and hammer down. > > conclusions > In this test P109 had very limited external effects with only one possible trust response. Self effects were limited to a single auditory enhancment. This auditory effect was of the same nature as reported in the earlier test. Interestingly, it occured at roughly the same length of time after application of a comparable doseage. No analgesic response was noted. > The auditory self effect may be repeatable and should be studied further. - **OoohYahhh** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/11](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-what-is-it-first-test-results-included-in-thread/21876/11)) > [@](#): > > \ p109: 10mcg sprays: 6 > is/b: x5cops sprays: 3 > tal : 12.5mcg sprays: 1 > p74 : 37.5mcg sprays: 2 > > self effects: I just started the morning, so I was pretty cheery lol > > Reactions from others: > > - Bus: People stared, wanted to be close to you. Surrounded me like a pack of kids (it was crazy!)…All they did was stare, nothing else special that I could say lol! > - I go to school, my teacher is there (it’s a female teacher, but in general, she’s an extremely sweet lady), but today, she had this massive smile everytime she saw me, it was really nice, it felt nice. > - My other male grumpy teacher, was also such a nice guy today. I went to his office during his office hours to ask him questions about my project concepts. And he was so proud of me … he also seemed to “open up”. He was told me that whenever he sees me it remembers him, of himself when he was young … it was pretty heartfelt. And I haven’t seen him talk like that to anyone, he’s always been a grumpy man who yells or is moody…and today he smiled at me 2 times > - So after lunch I press the key codes to open the security door to the lab, I hear a “Hello!” from my other male teacher miles away (don’t know if he got a waft like 3 meters away), but the funny thing was that I was searching for who that was, I did a full turn, and mumbled as I opened the door, and he comes behind me and says sorry! LOL!!! > - Came back on the bus, same treatment, people are crowding/staring around me lol > > However, I love instant shine (mine has 5X cops though) with p109 as well, I’ve been using this combo lately. > > p109: 10mcg > sprays: 7 > instant shine : 3 sprays > > self effects: I feel so happy that I’m humming to myself lol! > Reactions: > > - In the bus people are so fricken friendly, I got alot of smiles from the senior residents in my area. It was the cutest thing lol > - My teachers were really really nice, nobody wanted to trash my concepts (like they usually do so I don’t finish school early than the other students, it’s pretty sad). One teacher kept saying thank you repeatedly 3 times in a row…it was kind of funny > - Everybody in my class were in a happy go lucky mood when I was around them. Lotsa sexual innuendo going on. > > It’s a nice everyday mix imo > And that’s about it! But I only have half of p109 left _tears_ lol! My hobby runs out so fast! - **msselva** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spring-fever/12878/410](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spring-fever/12878/410)) > [@](#): > > \Alrighty, so today, I tested p109 and tal (at 12.5mcg) in a family get together. Used no cover scent. > > 5 sprays of p109 > 4 sprays of tal (12.5mcg) > > I started of with 1 spray of tal (first hr, I got nada, felt nada), > 2nd spray (got nada, but felt a bit more focused), > 3rd spray (after 2 hrs, felt a teeny bit strong, got a few looks but nothing major), > 4th spray (after 3 hrs, felt pretty tough, and people were really helpful lol) > > Self effects: I felt calm again, but definately not my bubbly-self. I apparently looked like I was serious according to sister lol > > Reactions from others: > > - Uncles were really – really polite to me, they usually joke around, but today they didn’t. > - Aunts were nice as well, they were chill and were having a great time, I did get the “Oh my goodness, you’ve grown up!!” alot…and a few of them see me like everyday. And today I look grown up?! Lol, oh boy! > - My baby cousins were really well behaved, as they were playing they would come to me and ask me anything they wanted but really politely —note: the kids were around me all the time, even when I was not playing with them (while my sister and god-brother got crap lol!) So this was interesting. - **msselva** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spring-fever/12878/406](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spring-fever/12878/406)) > [@](#): > > \ Tried this mix: > 1 drop of A314 > 1 spray TUTH > 1 spray 7.5mcg P79 > 1 spray 12.5mcg P109 > Visited the gf. Conversation was real giggly, felt more intimate then usual, and sex was really intense. - **Pheraoh** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p104/5363/34](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p104/5363/34)) > [@](#): > > \ “P109 Twilight Zone”, where everyone is super-friendly and eager to help at all times… but just watch out for those schoolkids! - **ntk23** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-pretty-cool/22358/2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-is-pretty-cool/22358/2)) > [@](#): > > \ I will state this. I have used this couple of times in my house just to see if there are any self effects. Ive done this two times now. What i have noticed is that my cat loves it. Now my cat is lovey dubby but when i put this stuff on both times she just wants to kiss me on my nose and rub against my legs to the point of where it can get anoying. Don’t know if thats a positive find or not but i think it may affect cats. - **Astewar** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/4)) > [@](#): > > \ I haven’t noticed any attraction from it yet but what i have noticed is that it makes me more agressive when i weight lift. Its kind of wierd actualy. - **Astewar** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-experiment/63681/10)) > [@](#): > > \ Day 1: I tried only p109 by itself. Not too fond of the smell I find it mixed with the neroli to be kind if off putting and chemical-ly. It did make me want to leave the house and get out and about although I felt a slight bit if agitation. My cats seemed to like it from a distance and would nuzzle the bottle until I sprayed it for the first time then they were out off by the perfume scent. They normally hate my perfumes which is why I mention this. It made me and other people overly talkative and I talked on the phone with my mom for three hours non stop and I normally ignore her phone calls because talking on the phone makes me feel awkward but not that day haha, it also made other people chat uncontrollably. - **UFO1** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-test-results-i-dont-give-a-damn/64280/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p109-test-results-i-dont-give-a-damn/64280)) > [@](#): > > \ results with my own body chemistry gives a cool, calm, and collected effect with a hint of confidence. It works great for work and has become my daily wearer while at work. - **DonJuanDeMarco** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-eager-to-test-ad-pheromones-its-a-hobby-m-latino-34/65831/11](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-eager-to-test-ad-pheromones-its-a-hobby-m-latino-34/65831/11)) Special Thanks to NFN for compiling the research portion of this thread. Be sure to give her massive rep points! ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/2 "2015-01-13T06:42:11Z")
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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/3 "2015-05-04T08:57:12Z")
Wow my experience was adifferant with it. I found inhibition was completely gone and it did make others chattier around me. I call it the I don’t give a dam in a bottle. That is how I felt when I wore it like I didn’t care about anything when I wore it ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/4 "2016-04-14T06:59:36Z")
I am wearing it right now. I believe I have the same urge to socialize as you all have stated, quite possibly because “I don’t give a damn” ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/5 "2016-04-14T20:25:23Z")
I just may have to order more and retest. I remember it was like a IDGAF attitude and it made me and others forget things ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/6 "2015-12-18T16:04:42Z")
Tried 20mcg P109 while going to work. I feel like A314, but more into a straight face mood. Put the word “soldier” on it, and I have to say it describes my feelings when I went to work quite perfectly. Focussed and direct to the point. Not really speeding, but more relaxed and less talkalive. Getting stuff done is a keyword. Unfortunately no real interactions and stuff, so not much to say about it other than that it gives me quite the good alpha vibe. Its hard to describe the feelings I get from this one, but if I have to place it in a character it would be some biker guy at a shady bar enjoying his beer. Calm yet having an air of power. ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/7 "2016-04-14T06:38:01Z")
Two and a half sprays (one partially missed my neck) to my neck of P109 @ 5mcg on my neck at home alone for testing @11:32PM Now that I’ve gotten used to the scent of Neroli, I’m able to discern the mental effect of the Neroli scent has on me opposed to the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). I did two drops of A314 on my jaw line around 3PM, so the effects are close to worn off. The P109 makes me feel kind of like IS. Uplifted, but in a different direction of uplifting. I have more of a desire to make chit chat with people, even though there is nobody around. This could be an effect of the fact that I am wearing a new pheromone and want to try it out. I might be feeling more confident as in my inner dialog improves under the influence of this within 5 minutes of wearing this. I feel more capable of relaxing. 8AM the next day: I mostly felt inclined to socialize but there was nobody around. This might be effective in getting the friendly side out of someone. ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/8 "2016-04-14T20:03:04Z")
I sprayed 10 mcg of P109 around 9:30AM. I felt the same uplifting sensation a few minutes after application. I met a client for a few minutes, and there were no noticeable affects with her. She communicates openly and freely the previous times I saw her. The self effect I had with her, was I felt like being more agreeable, and less jumpy. I went to the gym after, and felt the same increased level of increased agreeability among my interactions with people. I did biceps, tricep, and ab workouts along with 20 minutes in the steam room. Now I’m back in my office typing this report. I imagine I’m clean of the P109 after the steam room, sweating in the gym and the shower. I’m curious to find out how P109 works with A314. ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/9 "2016-04-20T06:00:09Z")
Hello, hello. Welcome to another edition in “The Chronicles of chrisEPZ” Tonights mix is 3PM: Two drops of A314 on jaw line 8:40PM: 20MCG P83 on forearms 1 IS X2 spray 2 sprays P109 @ 5mcg Once I arrive to the parking lot @ 8:50PM: two sprays of IH regular strength on forearms The location: Upscale, neighborhood bar / pool hall. The company: K (Male friend from high school) and J (Never met him before) Self effects: On the drive over, I feel very bouncy, upbeat, in a good mood. More enticed to speed and run through empty stop sign intersections than usual. I should minimize driving with this on. The vibe between the three of us was cozier than I was expecting and I’d attribute this to the IH. I felt closer to K than I have in the past. I told him “I love you” which I’ve never told him. We’ve been through some good and bad times together in the years. J and I were getting along. He was open to accepting me. At one point in the night, K asked if I was on any drugs. I said no. He said “Your super upbeat. It seems like you were at a couple pubs before this” I admit, I was very upbeat, talkative and happy. I attribute these effects that others noticed on me to the P83 and P109 combo. I see the possibility of the effect being narrowed down to P109 in the future. I told him “Pheromones. P83 and P109” and he laughed. I sprayed him with ammo and TUTH when we were in Vegas in January, so he knows I experiment with these things. My hypothesis of the P109 self-effect: I felt more talkative, bubbly and outgoing than normal. I noticed K started to pick up the same bubbly feelings and emotional patterns after he asked if I was on drugs. K and I maintained less physical distance than J and I did, so he had greater exposure to the stuff. P109 seems like it is a lot of fun. When I have sprayed P83, I did not get the same result. It’s still possible that this experience wouldn’t have happened with P109 alone, and only happens with P83 added. I had a lot of fun tonight, and I think the pheromones added to it. The chronicles will be continued in another post, soon. ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/10 "2016-04-24T16:48:53Z")
Meet with K at the same pool hall from post #92 with his male friend G. 30MCG of P96 & P83 at the forearms 1 IS x2 on neck 2 drops A314 on jaw 2 sprays P109 self effects: I feel the normal god-like confidence from A314. My theory is that it’s best to let go of myself and let the A314 (as well as all pheromones but mostly A314) have control. I feel less rushed when wearing A314. I put on the pheromones and went to drink a cup of water. Usually I’d chug it really quickly and in a hurry, but the A314 slows me down and makes me take my time. It makes me take my time with other things, and calms me down. I need to give control of my thoughts and feelings to the pheromones (especially A314) to achieve better congruency & the best results. P96 makes it difficult for me to ignore how I feel, makes me more aware of my emotions and how I feel. The same super chatty and talkative effect of P109 was there, but not as intense. I might be building a tolerance P83: I’m a little tight lipped at first, but I put on a sociable face and get to being outgoing. The P83 might have sped up this process. Effect on others: We play a 10-15 minute game of pool. Respect hits from the A314, people put me on the same pedestal and interact with me like I’m a creature from a higher dimension. No significant effects on others while we are playing pool. I feel like I’m on a high of confidence at this time. Go to the bar at the hotel across the street and start a conversation with the female bartender who’s probably 30 – 45. Her and I connect very well, and I think it is the P96. I understand women think with their emotions and men think logically. I hypothesize P96 helps men connect to the emotional style of thinking. I notice one of the male bar tenders shrug her off – I couldn’t imagine having that response to her because we were connecting so well, and I think he was shrugging her off because the lack of emotional connection he has with her. P109 – I start to get louder and more vocal at this point. I think less before speaking, less social anxiety and more free flowing, non-restricted speech. I drop off G to his car and go to another bar with K. I spray One spray of ammo summer to him and myself on a wrist A very similar sensation of warmth that IG gives is felt. They’re 90% the same. When we get to the bar, there are no women in their early to mid 20s. We sit down and have a drink. Our conversation is flowing freely and is upbeat. I feel the androstenone rush and I think he does too. We leave the bar, I drop him off and call it a night. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/11 "2016-05-05T13:32:25Z")
Hi chrisepz! Love your reports. I am interested on the combos though. While it is right to identify the individual’s effects (just like what you did above), I think it would be interesting to hear from users such as you, a description of the combos effect as one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/12 "2016-08-05T14:42:14Z")
My first report from a year and a half ago when I was newer. I received P109 as a freebie in one of my orders and this is my experience with it. It is 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) 5 MCG a spray. 3 sprays to my neck 1 left, 1 right, and 1 center. Self effects are pretty good. I am in a better mood not as much as I am when I wear TAA , but still noticeable. I feel inhibition is gone completely, and I just don’t seem to care about much. It seems to help with anxiety a little bit to. I haven’t seen any negatives with this. I have tried from 1 to 5 sprays and think for me I find 3 sprays good. I tried 4 sprays at work 2 sprays on neck left and right and 1 on each wrist. I find some co workers seem to talk about things that they normally wouldn’t, like they let there guard down and don’t care. I get good effects on both women and men. There seems to be nothing sexual at all with this one. I can see using this in a mix for breaking LMR though. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p109-happy-bubbly-friendly/62096/13 "2016-08-05T14:47:01Z")
**P109 Report** For reference I got this same putative some time ago as a freebie and reported on it and it is Page 1 Post #5 in my journal. It was when I was really new and learning how to test so the report is not that good. I have not looked at that report or looked anything up to keep true the Androtics way of blind testing and I wrote everything down I got and am now transferring it to here. This will be 5MCG a spray in 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) **15MCG** 3 sprays 1 left and 1 right of neck, and 1 to throat for 15MCG Total. Right away I feel more carefree and in the moment with no worries about daily stress or the stress of what I have to do tomorrow. A total in the moment feeling with no worries of anything. I notice the Wife is more happy and bubbly and has a similar attitude. She is a school teacher and has a lot of work to do with school starting soon and is stressed out to the max. But within 10 minutes of exposure to this she is relaxed and not worried what she has to do for tomorrow. It is 5PM and normally around this time she would be home and stressed about tomorrow. Well not this time which is a nice change. We are enjoying time with our daughter and having family time and playing a board game together. Nothing fancy and this is my only test subject this time and the self effects I got, but it sure was a nice change and know this putative was at work here. **30MCG** I start with 15MCG and spray 1 left 1 right on neck, and 1 throat. I let set in for about 10 minutes and feel the same way I did before at 15MCG and I see the same effects from wife. After the 10 minutes I spray another 15MCG and over the same exact app spots 1 left 1 right of neck and 1 to throat again. I really feel this thing now. I am getting the same effect as at 15MCG, just much stronger. I do not see a transition with this molecule and remember I ran out of it the last freebie to test this and that is why my tests are higher in dose starting out. We are going to wife’s brothers B-Day dinner at a Mexican restaurant. She decides to drive so we go in her car and here is where things get hectic. We get in her car and it is trashed. Now to make a long story short when I met my wife I took everything and anything I had and bought her a car and paid it off to make sure she would have something nice and dependable for her and her daughter. This is like the 5th or 6th time I have found this thing totally trashed and it just makes me feel like my hard work is treated like crap so I really lose it and bad this time and even mention I do not know if I want to even stay with her anymore as I have about had it. Well I finally just stay quite after 5 minutes of talking and just sit in my thoughts. Now this putative is at work here and I just could not stay upset at all no matter how hard I tried. Real calm like I just expressed my concerns and how it made me sad, and then I just took a beep breath and we went to the B-Day Dinner. This is somewhat of an eye-opener. With this molecule on if something is wrong or you get upset, just take 5-10 minutes to think about things. After that it just seemed like all the right words came out of my mouth to fix things and make it all better and without trying or thinking about things to. Right away things are better and we are having fun again instead of drawing things out 2-3 days of being pissed off. We get there to the B-Day dinner. With 30MCG there is no over the top hits, but I notice some really important things with the molecule though and I find the hits are more subtle, but really important I find with what I got. We get there and there is about 16 of us all family and we sit in the back all by our selves and there are 2 tables where 8 sit at one and 8 at another. I sit in the middle of one of the tables so I can observe how interactions go. This thing is a social lubricant especially in larger crowds when they are within about 5 feet of the mone cloud. I will break down what I observe by table and I am sitting at **table 2**. **Table 1** about 3 different conversations going on and I notice a few people trying to talk over each other. A lot more noisy to in general and the intensity of people are very high in there attitude and body language and being very vocal like they feel the need to project there opinion and voice to get through to there targets. People are all over the place and jumping back and forth with different conversations and the whole dynamic is just everyone seems scattered with everything even the whole ordering of there food with the waitress. Seems somewhat dysfunctional socially over there. **Table 2** This is where I am at and I am in the middle with everyone within 5 feet or less. Everyone calmly orders there drinks and everyone is interacting with everyone in a calm state and there seems to be this unity in that everyone is having the same conversation and enjoying it. No one is talking over no one and the general vibe is calm and smooth with more soft laughing and having fun and just being in the moment. More smiling and even notice my wife to the left and father in law in front of me pupils are dilated more than normal. Waitress takes our order and it takes her half the time as it did the other table and no mess ups either when we got our food unlike the other table that had a few from the waitress being distracted from them being very loud and intense. With conversations no one was talking over anyone else and everyone was very polite when talking and the others all listened. Overall vibe is very mellow and calm, with some light laughing and everyone is cheery. Overall I am very happy with results. Effects seem to be more subtle and this seems to work very well among group settings. I have tested this thing in low doses and do not have a whole lot to report and I actually get the same effects at 10-30MCG pretty much, just it hits harder at higher doses and I see no transition in the way this molecule behaves. **15MCG P109/Michael Storer Kadota** 3 sprays and same as before 1 left 1 right of neck and 1 throat. I kind of wanted to test this with the Kadota as a cover scent to see what happens. I spray the P109 and wait 10 minutes and I get the same consistent self effects. After this I spray 3 sprays of the Kadota over the same app spots. I have to solo test this cologne and report later on. But I love the fig tree smell over this molecule and it totally overpowers the Neroli , but it is a nice sweet smell that is not bad and I actually like it more than the FF20 /Himalayan scent and it is not over powering. On the car ride there I see it effecting the wife the same as it always has and the stress is gone and worries of life to. We get there and start shopping and the woman that greets us is maybe 35 white and right away she comments on the scent and says she really likes it. Also she is smiling and seems to be in a good mood right away, but nothing out of the ordinary. I thank her and we grab our basket and start shopping. I will try my best to separate the hits I got from the P109 verse the scent from the Kadota as this is tough because what I find is the scent draws people in and causes them to breathe deeper and what this does is allows the molecules to work even better and hitting people even harder. What happened with this setup is with men I got nothing and this could be due to the scent who knows, but with women 3 separate women I came really close to 30-50 age range 2 White and 1 Hispanic, they started to breathe deeply and then I got a comment on the scent of the cologne and within 5 minutes they all became more friendly and more relaxed and almost to the point of the P109 being disinhibiting. What was weird is my wife did not mind either and normally she would have been upset, but it was like we were all having fun with no worries. No jealousy or anything which I found to be weird. Again the effects are more subtle than in your face and you have to open people up a little to see the maximum effect from this molecule. **A314 REV32/30MCG P96/15MCGP109** 3 drops of A314 to jawline, 15MCG a spray of P96 1 left and 1 right neck, and 3 sprays P109 1 to each wrist and 1 to throat. Normally as a general mix I use IS instead of P109 so I thought I would change the 2 out to see what I would get. The setting is church. I feel very happy, but not as intense as I would with the IS, but I do feel more carefree so like a tradeoff as far as self effects. I am in just the moment attitude and I love it with no stresses right now. I get there with the family and I am getting the respect/emotional vibe I normally get from the A314 / P96 setup I expect. People are happy to see me, not over the top IS happiness I am used to , but everyone I interact with seems to be complaining a whole lot less about there problems in there life and seem to be more carefree and this takes about 5 minutes to take place. Within this 5 minutes also I notice people are invading my space also and drawing in closer to the point of almost toughing me men and women of all ages and races. There may be a possible synergistic effect of the P96 and this molecule. Everyone seems more loosened up also. I think this molecule is better suited for more uninhibited environments. **Strength -** I give an 8 and the effects are more subtle even in higher doses. **Length of Effects -** About 5 hours on average in indoor environments with temp being around 75 on average **Tenacity -** More of a slow burner, with a good cover scent it does change this a little bit into more of an attacker. **Effectiveness & Consistency -** I give a 9 as this thing never changed and stayed the same the whole time and no matter what dose I tried to. **Diffusion/Sillage -** The mone cloud was about 5 feet or so. People did not seem to follow and I had to do a little work and within 5 minutes this molecule would hit people. **Texture** For some reason a hard smooth granite counter top comes to mine. Thank you guys for the freebie and in return here is my report