# Putative Pheromone P125 - Mild Excitement, Social Effects

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**[Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) P125 - Mild Excitement, Social Effects**

[Experimone](https://a314.com/)\*\*™ \*\*[Putative](https://a314.com/) Pheromone P125  
\*\*Check it out in store here: \*\*

[Putative P125 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/)  
Available in all dosages between 125 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray.

**Dosage Guidance (Successful Ranges Tested So Far):**

**Common ways to apply: 1 spray of 12.5 to 50 mcg**

\*Please keep in mind this is merely what has worked well in the past for a very limited number of users who have conducted a limited number of tests. This information is merely provided as a convenient starting point.

It’s good to be open minded and adventurous, as it’s quite possible that dosages much smaller and perhaps even larger provide useful (though often different) responses. Many molecules we have are active in at least 2 useful ranges.\*

\*\*Observed P125 Effects: \*\*

\*\*Upbeat, Cheerful, Excited, Social \*\*

According to the reports about P125, it gives a breath of excitement and rush. It also has a social effect as reported. Though there were also reports that it gives no effect. One user had compilation of experiences and mixes and is recommended for read.

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927) - BLADE

\*\*Interesting Combos: \*\*

- P125 - 8mcg + TAC - 3mcg + P83 - 3mcg + P79 - 2mcg
- P125 30mcg + P83 20mcg + Meo - Est 50mcg
- _Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread [link]!_

**Real User Feedback:**

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> 2.5 sprays of P125 approx 32.5mcg of pheromones.
> 
> So far I’m getting flowing and pleasant conversations with this Putative . Interactions have gone on longer and are more cordial than anything. My respect vibe is still there, but its more open and less threatening.
> 
> This might have to get field testesed in social situations when I go out tonight.
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> I decided to reapply again today about 5 horus after initial application.
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> P125 25mcg total to both sides of the neck.
> 
> I got a nice little rush when I applied this on, we’ll see how the rest of the interactions move forward on this day.
> 
> The interactions I had were just plain out pleasant. I met with a long time client today, and there was something different with her today in our interaction, it was less professional and more personal. I mean she was telling me about how she recently got engaged, this and that, but I couldn’t exactly pinpoint what was going on. So far what I noticed about this was more social in work environments. - **P51Mustang** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/365](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/365))

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> P125
> 
> 1 spray 12.5 mcg split to wrists.
> 
> Self effects \>\>\>\>\> The scent smells manly to me. I think it may be akuto or some other cologne. It smells nice just not something I would use. I know I didnt order this in akuto but its definitely not light neroliwhich I usually get. There is nothing light about this scent.
> 
> No real self effects.
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> 25 mcg wrists and neck.  
> Self effect… Nothing except annoyed by the smell.
> 
> Effect on others… Ran to the mall, The only reaction I got from others was they seemed to want to stay out of my way. Little things annoyed me but not to the point of anger. I feel a sense of impatience from myself and from others.
> 
> 37.5 mcg  
> Wrists neck and back of neck.
> 
> Same sense of impatience. At work people still seem to be trying to stay out of my way. A few friends commented on the smell and said the scent “wasn’t me”. I agree the scent is causing a problem here.
> 
> Little things like dropping a letter while sorting or the coffee ring left on the counter in the lunch room just annoy me. Generally I am not a person who gets annoyed easily. I am pretty laid back and easy going.
> 
> I didnt reapply before going home but my husband could still smell the scent of it. He commented on it and said he didnt like it.
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> I cant test this one more, the scent is to distracting to me. Not because its bad but its just not something I would not use. Maybe I got someone else’s bottle or something.
> 
> No worries I have some other new goodies to try out - **tisha23** \

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> Tried more sprays at 12.5mcg and no noticable effects have been seen yet. Will try upping the sprays to see what happens. - **Liquid\_Mind44** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-journey-into-liquid-minds-mind/57033/20](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-journey-into-liquid-minds-mind/57033/20))

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> Revisited this useful little thing last night
> 
> PRODUCT - P125, 12.5mcg Akuto
> 
> - BetaNol, 50mcg, Akuto
> 
> APPLICATION - Spray to each wrist of P125, 2 sprays to throat P125. Waited a couple of minutes and then 1 spray Betanol to throat.
> 
> SELF EFFECTS - Felt upbeat and happy to be doing what I was doing. great day for it - sun was shining, I’d been for a run, work was over - that cheery what a wonderful world feeling I get from P125
> 
> EFFECTS TO OTHERS - My GF had invited a friend of hers over for a BBQ and a few drinks. They hadn’t caught up for awhile and it had caused a bit of tension between them. The friend has been going through a rough patch in her relationship for about 6 months but just won’t help herself when it comes to sorting things out. That’s worn on my GF who keeps trying to be supportive but has pretty much run out of sympathy given this girl keeps putting herself back in the same situation.
> 
> Anyway, The upshot is that I didn’t expect this night to be all that good. I expected tension between the girls, tears from the friend when her latest issues came up in conversation - in short, the same sort of thing i’ve seen the last couple of times the three of us have hung out. Hence me choosing the little P125 happy juice.
> 
> As we hung out in the kitchen preparing food, the mood lightened noticeable within minutes. Everyone was talking, laughing, helping out. Plenty of friendly banter and stirring. Even though there were only three of us, the vibe went from “dinner” to “party” if that makes sense. Hell, let’s have a few wines, it’s only Friday tomorrow, lifes too short not to have fun.
> 
> I cooked up a magnificent BBQ and we sat around eating, talking. A couple of wines for the girls and a few beers for me. Wow - this was the most fun the three of us have had in a long time hanging out.
> 
> Eventually, the relationship issues did surface, but there were no tears at all! I can’t credit the mones , really, for this. The girl does seem to be slowly coming to terms with things and looking to move on.
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> After the friend left, my GF just wanted to keep partying…and talking (damn BetaNol, lol)
> 
> We were out of wine and beer - so we hit up the Vodka. Hey, you only live once right? Let’s make a night of it. I’m finding P125 really makes you want to enjoy everything and it certainly very clearly hits others - I don’t think I’ve seen as obvious a response on someone else with any other P.
> 
> In all, a really fun night which I am now paying for… I feel very scratchy this morning at work… I wonder if anyone will notice if I curl up under the desk and nap… - **BLADE** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/9](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/9))

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> Cheers Andrew.
> 
> The best results I’ve seen with P125 were around the 40-50mcg mark. Ideally I probably would have gone for about 10mcg per spray, but my limited remaining stock didn’t allow it
> 
> So 8mcg per spray it shall have to be. Given i want to be around the 40mcg mark i’m looking at 5 sprays - so the other ingredients I mixed to get a reasonable but not overpowering amount at that many sprays.
> 
> Having said that, I’ll probably start out a little lower in the spray number and see whether the P79 can intensify the effect and limit the need for too many additional sprays.
> 
> I was thinking more along the Instant line with this - heavy on one particular thing with a couple of little harmonisers and intensifiers - as I’ve said, I think P125 does a lot even just on it’s own. - **BLADE** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/13](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blade-testing-p125/32927/13))

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> On it’s own, P125 is quite energetic. It has an air of excitement to it that seemed to vanish in this mix and I’m suspecting TAC was the cause. Given the bonding elements of P125, in retrospect it probably didn’t need the TAC . - **BLADE** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-outing-for-my-p125-composite/33997/9](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-outing-for-my-p125-composite/33997/9))

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> It is a little more laid back and composed than P125 - the feeling of sociability is a lot calmer, more chill. - **[BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p91-vs-p125/34376)**

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> The Composite was mixed to hit the following dose per spray
> 
> P125 - 8mcg  
> TAC - 3mcg  
> P83 - 3mcg  
> P79 - 2mcg
> 
> Nice and simple and designed to showcase P125. Target dose was 5 sprays as I didn’t get much from P125until I tried 40-50mcgs?
> 
> ? A nice start for P125. The usual banter between us as we strolled up the street was just that little bit more amusing. More giggling and singing from her, accompanied with the playful teasing of someone who?€™s known you a long time. Interestingly, cocky comments from me that she would normally try and lovingly shoot me down for, were greeted with enthusiastic agreement for a change?€??€?well, the ones that were cocky AND true anyway, lol. Normally she’ll never admit I’m all that? (go to post for the whole report) - **BLADE** ([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-outing-for-my-p125-composite/33997/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-outing-for-my-p125-composite/33997))

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> TEST # 2 – WORK  
> PRODUCT – P125  
> AMOUNT – 4 sprays 10 mcg – total 40 mcg  
> SELF EFFECTS – A couple min after application, I got a tightening in my stomach. Like when you are expecting something is going to happen, you get that feeling in the pit of your stomach. I do not feel anxious, however it is the feeling I personally associate to being anxious. The feeling died down after about 45 min. I did not notice any over the top self effects beyond this.  
> EFFECTS ON OTHERS – For the most part I did not notice any obvious effects. Well at least from 99% of people. 1 woman was completely blown away by this. Her stats: 25 years old, black, married, dresses somewhat provocatively . Within 45 min of me arriving at work she sent me a silly email. She never has done this before. I decide to play back. We email back and forth a bit joking. About 2 hours after application, she walks by my desk, and out the corner of my eye, she looks like she is tripping and falling. Her plan was to scare me and fall into me. hmmmm ok. She is totally not like this. I think it embarrassed her however, because when she started to trip I moved out of the way. I did not realize what she was doing, then I laughed at how retarded she looked. That broke the cycle. It was funny though.
> 
> DURATION – I am not sure. Like I said, I only noticed 1 response. - **[andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p125/36571)**

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> P125 30mcg  
> P83 20mcg  
> Meo - Est 50mcg  
> All applied to neck, dry down between different spays.
> 
> Went out for Halloween, just because I could. Not in the traditional sense of dressing up and asking for candy. Hit the local bar. Bumped into a few people I knew and had a couple of drinks with them. Doing some bar leaning and just watching people interact (favorite past time of mine :-)).
> 
> While I was bar leaning I had a blonde come up to me and ask ?where?s your costume?? I was like huh? I was a bit slow last night, probably the meo ? est I’m thinking. I just laugh and went ?Ha! Where’s yours!?!? She had a couple of friends with her, a girl and guy (together). So I ended up joining them and we all had a few games of pool.
> 
> The blonde, was giving me a lot of eyes and when handing the pool que over to me there was always a hand on hand exchange, this easy to spot, because I would go in lower than her hand and she would drift over mine? this didn’t happen with her friends I noticed? anyway the night lead on and got late. Her girl friend had a chat with her and then they decided they were leaving us to it?. :-).
> 
> Found a free booth and had a good one on one chat. I let her do most of the talking and found myself quite attentive to what she was saying and even to a point where I thought to myself this is VERY odd. Normally I would have been bored to tears at this point but not show it. Not sure if this was the mones I was wearing or not. I could tell she was wanting to get closer but was holding back a lot, this could have been the way I was acting towards her however and not the mones. We got taxi back to her place (which was in the complete opposite direction to mine) she knew this? and we went inside and I got my Halloween candy?.! 🙂 Breakfast was nice too! I thought I smelled pretty bad by that point. But it didn’t seem to worry her!
> 
> I couldn’t say what each of the mones here was contributing to this. But her body language suggested she was into it right from the start of the evening. It started with hair twirling / flipping and then got better as the night progressed. She was 40. From the time of first application to meeting her would have been about 1.5 hours and by the time we where at her place would have been 4 hours latter  
> I felt calm and just sort of go with the flow, couldn’t really care what happened and wasn’t surprised when things did happen? was more.. oh cool… ok 🙂
> 
> I won’t be seeing her again, unless I bump into her again. It’s a respect thing; I don’t have a lot for woman that will jump you after such a short time? same could be said for me too I guess. - **[Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alfas-journal/33486/5)**

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> 4 x P125 (20 mu total)  
> Applied to forearms, top and bottom, one to each side. Short sleeve shirt on today… It’s HOT.
> 
> Mid 90’s F  
> Humidity @ 50%
> 
> Exposure to mones from initial application: 5 minutes
> 
> Did have a slight tingling in my nose after initial application. More of a perked up feeling with this on. I spoke with a gal in accounting, seemed to be a bit ditzy today. Likely caused by the heat, though the A/C is going, walking outside between buildings or in the warehouse… nasty! It’s a bit slow this week as many are taking an extended holiday week. She wasn’t much into talking. She was about 4 to 5 feet away during our interactions for about 2 minutes… Normally, she would be more talkative…
> 
> @ 10 minutes from application time:  
> I spoke with another engineer in the warehouse, I found talking to him was fine, we had some comments on the weather and the weekend. I don’t know why, but, I’d have to force myself to look him in the eye. I felt a bit, reserved and deferential to him. He is a long time engineer with much experience, older than me. Don’t know what that was about.
> 
> @ 15 minutes from application time:  
> Another sales person that I spoke with tells me he didn’t report what I told him to report last week. He didn’t seem too worried about it, now, though, he did come to my cabin to complain last week. So, though, last week I had gave him clear instructions on how to resolve his issues with one of our contractors, I told him,today, I’ll take care of it. Likely, because it’s a bit slow… but, had a feeling of wanting to be of service to others.
> 
> @ 60 minutes from application time:  
> Observations, before application, I was a bit tired, slow and methodical. Feel some pep in me with that inclination to help others out… Have things racing in my head to get done and am having to force myself to just pick ONE and get it done then move on to the next thing… Have to keep an eye for anything else. - **[1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p125-5mu-cookie-scented-mmmm-cookies/51111)**

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**P125 Report**

Androtics was nice enough to include this in my last order so here is my report on it. So this 1 was very tricky and some results were inconsistent, but this is what I got out of it. This will be from a 5ML Togo 5MCG a spray 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/).

**Self Test**

**5MCG** slight increase in heart rate and nothing else

**10MCG** Same as at 5 MCG but slightly more of a heart rate increase

**15MCG** Now this is where it kicks in. Heart rate increased more. At this dose I feel more alive and social. All my other tests I will probably start at this dose. I got a rush feeling and it is sort of like a caffeine rush without the buzz. Not a bad feeling I quite like it. I have things to do and don’t want to drive because of this. 20 minutes later this thing is setting in and hitting harder and I am very bubbly and happy with a slight butterfly feeling in my stomach(almost like I got with MX274 and IS/B). It is now 30 minutes later and I feel this thing alters my senses somehow. It is 62 Degrees in the house and I am not cold at all(I live in Arizona which is a hot state so I am used to heat). Now I am usually cold around 67 or so and turning heater on. I notice I have to watch the time to as it seems easier to lose track of it.

**20MCG** I am getting the same effect as I did at 15MCG but it is hitting a lot harder now. I am really having fun and laughing a lot more and feel like I am at a party or at least want to be. I just feel wonderful and like I have taken a heppy pill. This thing for me is like a mix of TAA and P91.

**25MCG** I am getting the same feeling as I did with 20MCG, but now I have seem to have a huge appreciation for music. It is like I can actually feel the beat and Music is making me feel even better. This may be to the sense perception. I have no sense of time and I am just in this happy place.

**30MCG** No difference from 25MCG

**35MCG** no difference from 30MCG. This is where I stop my self test because I feel 15-25MCG will be my test range. I didn’t experience any transition at all with this molecule. This was just a self test and it may transition on other people I don’t know.

**Test 1**

2 sprays to neck 1 left 1 right 1 spray each wrist for 20MCG total. I decide to wait 30 minutes before going out because of driving. After 30 minutes I go to Wal Mart to pick up a prescription. I start driving and noticed I am very distracted, not good. It takes everything out of me to pay attention to the road. I catch myself looking around instead of focusing on the road. I get to Wal Mart and I have no hits to note. I was trying to invade everyone’s space to. I walk around a while and I had maybe 15 different subjects men and women of all ages and nothing to note. I even say a few 1 liners to try and open a few people up like “Hey nice shirt” or something like this.

A few hours later I pick my daughter up from school and take her to gymnastic practice. There are always super hot MILF’s here so this will work. I walk in and take a seat. A few minutes later a mid 30’s woman white sits on my right she is a 9. I have seen her before and she is kind of a stuck up snob. She starts playing on her phone and I am watching her body language and she is really closed off. She is sitting 2 feet away and within the mone cloud. I try to make friendly chit chat with her but she is just being rude so I give up. Then a Hispanic woman same age sits on my left same age and an 8. I open her up within a few minutes and she opens right up and smiling a lot. She is giving me IOI’s and being very flirty and seems to be having a lot of fun just watching the kids and us chatting. She knows I am married and we know each other not well, but we see each other often here. She is way more flirty than normal with me and even says" I really like you but respect you are married", I couldn’t believe this as this seems out of line for her. She is more the quite type and more reserved. So this molecule has to be working here. We both enjoyed the friendly flirting. So there may be some type of attraction here or this thing may alter the perception of this I am not sure. Possibly a slight beautifying. This could be also that I didn’t have the wife. Hard to tell here.

**Test 2**

3 sprays 1 each wrist and 1 to throat. Now I don’t get quite the rush feeling with this setup, but this is good because my focus is better this way to. This time I am with the wife getting groceries. I notice on the way to town she is very bubbly and not paying as much attention to the road. So I have to watch her like a hawk here. So this thing I wouldn’t drive at all with it if possible as this is very dangerous. This molecule is not good for focus either like to study for anything. Very distracting molecule, but it sure is fun so like a trade off.

We get to the grocery store and right away we see a family friend Hispanic middle 50’s. Right away she is very bubbly and laughing and kind of being loud like she has a IDGAF attitude. This is not quite like her. So this is seems to be hitting her good. No huge hits to note while here. I do notice that most people I come in contact with are generally smiling and seem to be having fun for grocery shopping. Men and women are smiling more when with 6 feet. This thing seems to be hitting more women than men.

I do notice this thing hits much harder for the first 2 hours, then I get more subtle effects after that. I would like to see more from this molecule. This thing is a roller coaster ride for me for sure.

**Test 3**

I use same 3 app points and sprays as test 2. I wait an hour before I try to drive and then I go to bank to deposit some checks. I see one of the bankers I deal with sometimes there so I go say hi to her and within a minute of talking to her she is laughing and smiling a lot. She starts to tell me all kinds of things like her period and other crazy things. I don’t know if it is the IDGAF attitude or what. I barely know her. I was shocked by this. I don’t know if she is in party mode or this is somehow a verbal disinhibitor or what. She talk on for a while and doesn’t want to get back to work it seems like.

After the bank I have to go to a friends house to drop a USB stick off he asked me to put music on for him. He is middle 30’s white and girlfriend is the same middle 30’s white. I get there and drop it off and he decides to listen to a few songs. Within a few minutes he is really into the music him and his GF and then they starting letting loose and dancing. They are having so much fun and ask I stay a while. Then they say “hey Dance with us”. I normally don’t dance at all but figure what the hell you live once. Now for 2 hours this goes on before I realize I have other things to do and I completely lost track of time. But we sure had fun and it was worth it.

**Strength** This thing is a 10 very potent and one of the strongest hitting single molecule I have used.

**Length of Effects** The first 2 to 3 hours this thing hits hard then subtle effects till around 5 hours for me.

**Tenacity** This thing attacks and hard. like a military fighter.

**Effectiveness & Consistency** Very effective, but as far as consistency some parts were inconsistent. I would like to have figured out more like attractiveness or sexual part of this molecule.

**Diffusion/Sillage** Mone cloud was around 6 feet or so. I don’t have anything special to report here.

**Music** This thing reminds me of Rick James. "Cocaine is a hell of a drug: comes to mind here because it is exactly like this.

I have to write that I would not drive with this because it can be very dangerous. The most appropriate environment would be like a bar or party something like this.
