# Putative Pheromone P133 - Inconclusive **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [June 8, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956 "2014-06-08T03:23:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/1 "2014-06-08T03:23:38Z")
**[Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) P133 - Inconclusive** [Experimone](https://a314.com/)\*\*? \*\*[Putative](https://a314.com/) Pheromone P133 \*\*Check it out in store here: \*\* [Putative P133 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Available in all dosages between 125 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray. **Dosage Guidance (Successful Ranges Tested So Far):10mcg - 30mcg** \*\*Common ways to apply: N/A \*\* \*Please keep in mind this is merely what has worked well in the past for a very limited number of users who have conducted a limited number of tests. This information is merely provided as a convenient starting point. It’s good to be open minded and adventurous, as it’s quite possible that dosages much smaller and perhaps even larger provide useful (though often different) responses. Many molecules we have are active in at least 2 useful ranges.\* \*\*Observed P133 Effects: \*\* \*\* N/A \*\* Only 4 users had used P133 and gave a review. So far, this molecule gives out different effects from different users. One reported it made him calm, relax and sleepy, but others reported being hyper, being friendly, and makes people talk. We are encouraging more users to test this putative and share their experiences using P133. \*\*Interesting Combos: \*\* - _Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread!_ **Real User Feedback:** > [@](#): > > P133 2 spr in the hand split each side of neck, on throat and remainder wiped in inside of fore arms. > As usual the fragrance is very pleasant IMO. > > No self effects but I don’t really feel them anyway. Not yet > No no noticeable self effects. > > … > > Now hear this…fast forward2 hours - about 3 hrs after application. Ok so I’ve know this one guy for gotta be at least 7 years and he insisted on shaking my hand when I walked up. Never done that in the 7 years I’ve known him. Other guys were real friendly and talkative. Lots of respect from them. > > The long and short is this… Guys act as if I’m the mans man, like the a314 effect. > Girls on the other hand turn into school kids, giggly beaming and chatty school kids. A strange division between the men and women. As I mentioned before I’m very new at this and as far as I see the p133 so far has given me the most reaction of any mone so far. > > Day 2 > 2 sprays 1 to each side of neck; 1 spray split between wrists > > … > > About 3 hours after application, my 1st fare of the day was 4 Japanese businessmen. Normally these guys keep themselves to themselves, talking in Japanese but they did want to include me in the conversation. Still not unusual but it seemed like they deemed it very much a necessity. Felt very much the alpha. Nothing much for the remainder of the day except, in hindsight, I do remember having a possible hit at the gas station. The clerk there is normally very chatty and all smiles but it seemed a little more boosted? This was also a good 10 hours after application. - **Unijack** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unijacks-ongoing-foray/64033/8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unijacks-ongoing-foray/64033/8)) > [@](#): > > Hi, I received p133. It is friendlier. It makes people talk. It is like mixture of IO and IH. It is bad when used with A314. It is also very strong. Only one spray can do the work. - **Kalpan** ](link address) > [@](#): > > 26MAR2015 > Tested a freebie I got of P133 > 2 Sprays on each side of neck > 1 spray per wrist > Self effect: the whole day I was hyper and hyper. I’m usually able to calm my hyper but it completely unleashed on me and didn’t let up until about 4 1/2 hours later. It was insanity. I couldn’t stop running my Yap either. > Didn’t notice anything really from anyone else. - **RedLebowski** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reds-after-action-reports/63881/27](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reds-after-action-reports/63881/27)) > [@](#): > > Self effects: > Relaxing, calming, disinhibiting, numbing, altruistic inducing, borderline apathetic, cognitive function slower, desire reducer, pain reducer, sedative > > Effects on others: > Small social enhancer, and very little attention grabbing > > Side notes: > Very nice putative indeed. If a person just wants to be calm and relaxed and forget the world then this is a good one. I imagine in high doses it could induce sleepiness. At lower dosages shows promise for being courageous but higher dosages exhibit social awkwardness and timidity. - **Jdub** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/6](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/5)) > [@](#): > > I also received p133 and i also feel like ‘mood enhancer’ when im happy then im more happy with the mone but when im down then im down with p133. > I used mixed with ISx2-1spray, IHx2-1spray and IGx2-1spray all together at one time and i felt so great, full of positive energy and optimistic. **simba17** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p133-tested-for-a-month-seems-to-be-a-mood-enhancer/66512/8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p133-tested-for-a-month-seems-to-be-a-mood-enhancer/66512/8)) > [@](#): > > Self effect: recklessness. xD I’ve felt good, confident during the class and was quite reckless in my moves, sometimes trying new things, or making up new things all together. > > Effect on others: I’ve gotten a LOT more smiles today than I have in a while. Girls were more chatty, but also 1 girl started teasing me (pretending to hit me with a tile like thing, for no apparent reason, we were just chatting about how hot it was in there) and 2 other girls gave me shoulder pats while talking, like 1 was good work today, you tried a lot of new things etc. and the other was kinda random talking about how i’m not joining another class anymore, but that it was okay and all that jazz haha. **lalythil** ]([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-steps/66252/63](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-steps/66252/63)) ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/2 "2015-06-12T20:56:04Z")
First up, P133. First application, 30mcg to my chest after work. Felt calm, relaxing. Normally I just go on the couch, but now I just felt like sleeping. 2-3 hours in and I almost fell asleep, which is unusual. Could be the stress from work, could be the P133, I am not sure. I did notice that the sleepiness started to fade around 5-5.5 hours later. I think it resembles a bit the same effect I have when I have some alcolhol, it also makes me relaxed and sleepy. ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/3 "2015-06-16T22:25:56Z")
Okay, after trying out P133 I can say for sure that 20-30mcg in combination with a bed will make me go have a nap within minutes. Its a very “relaxing and calming” putative for me. Not sure what others think, but if I feel a bit sleepy and use P133 I can sleep within minutes. Also weird thing is that i had a weird but very relaxing dream, woke up this morning very happy and relaxed, not sexual like usual but just like I was flying on air with fluffy animals all around me. I think the best way to compare P133 is with weed(?) ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/4 "2016-07-01T14:44:18Z")
**P133 Report** I got this as a freebie on my last order so here is my report on it. It is 5MCG a spray and 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent. What is interesting is there is no reports not even 1 about this one. So here goes. **5MCG** 1 spray to throat. I did not notice a lot, but did get some type of light spaceyness type of feeling right away. I also lost a little focus. I did not get much else from 5MCG. **10MCG** 2 sprays to throat. I went to a friends house to organize some church stuff. Driving there I had a hard time focusing and driving altogether. Very similar to my experience with P125 . I wanted to look around instead of paying attention to the road. I was spacing out a lot more than I did at 5MCG. I finally get there and walk in and my male friend is 40/White and his wife is 36/White. Right away his wife greets me with a big hug and smile and she never does this. So there may be some attraction to this who knows. I took it as somewhat of a hit. After this I spent about an hour with my male friend and did not notice anything different with him. No I am in there dinging room at the table and she is on my right about 3 feet away and he is standing on my left 4-5 feet away. I can now tell this molecule is hitting her good, but I am getting nothing from him. She seems to be connecting with me way more than she ever has. She is being more open and brutally honest with her feelings which I appreciate. From her I am getting a feeling like IO / IH combo or some type of A or B Nol . **20MCG** I really feel this thing now at this dose. I fell really loose and having more fun. What is interesting is the is no difference from this dose and 5MCG on the spaceyness or lack of focus. This seems to be more of a party molecule with some type of social effect where random people connect with you. I feel great with this thing on. Setting was church for the hell of it. Everyone was over the top friendly and having fun within 6 feet of me. Today this seemed to effect everyone old, young, men, women, and every skin color. It only lasted 4 1/2 hours, but sure was fun. Very bubbly molecule so far. **15MCG P133/10MCG A1** I chose this because wife and now daughter who is having her first period were not in a good mood. The A1 did it’s thing and helped come them both down and make things easier. There was this floating feeling and kind of light and social chatty feeling to right away after I applied the P133. The P133 helped the wife open up more and have fun. **15MCG P133** There will be 2 parts to this test and will explain the rest later. I am getting the happy body hi feeling and feel like I am floating which is a great feeling. Focus and concentration are lowered a bit. I feel very social and connected to things and like there is no wrong with the world. Very at peace and feel loved with this on. This molecule makes me want to forget everything and just have fun. Effects on wife is she is more open and we are having more fun together even though we are doing chores and cleaning. **15MCG P133/7.5MCG TAA** This is part 2 of this test. 1 hour has gone by and I have decided to try and layer TAA over this molecule to see what will happen. I used 2.5MCG a spray and 6% Neroli of TAA . I fell it is important to keep the scent the exact same when doing this for this test. After I sprayed I felt really good and happy with a smile glued on my face. Then out of no where I get this huge sexual urge that hit me like a freight train and came out of no where. Daughter is outside playing with her friend and then I look at wife and say take off your clothes now and demanded that she do so. She is worried about daughter coming in the house so I go and lock the door and say take them off or I will rip them off. During sex wife was more relaxed than normal and happy. The sex was intense and then afterwards we are both in this happy social state and very relaxed. What threw me off is TAA I know very well and I did not think this P133 has a sexual side. **P133 10MCG/P79 20MCG** I wanted this setup to see what if any flaws the P133 has. So far I am getting the light floating feeling and wanting to be social. After 5 minutes I got a huge sexual appetite again. I just can’t figure out the sexual part of this molecule as this part is very tricky and very random with P133. I do not notice any difference with focus or concentration with the P79 added. Wife is happier and in a better mood with P79 added. This is a good molecule and think of it as more social and think it would be good for a party or even some family gatherings like a B Day party. Seems to get everyone a little more friendly and chatty. There is also a feel good side this as well where you feel like you are floating and feel very light and bubbly. There is a sexual side to this molecule that is random and can not figure out and now I am out of the whole Togo bottle to test any further. **Strength** I give it a 7. **Length of Effects** I got around 4-4 1/2 hours out of it. Seems to not last quite as long as others. **Tenacity** It does not last long and is somewhere in the middle between slow burner and aggressive. **Effectiveness&Consistency** I give a 6 as all aspects of this were consistent except the light floating feeling and the sexual part of this. **Diffusion&Sillage** What was different with this was that even though the scent was gone the effects were still there and hit people 6 feet away. But everyone within 4 feet it hit much harder. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/5 "2017-01-03T01:07:09Z")
**P133 test** _(Togo)_ **5 MCG** Sprayed 1 spray P133 to right side of neck just below ear. Let settle and headed out to run errands. Self effects start to kick in and I start to feel a tad light and relaxed. Feeling pretty euphoric and disinhibited. As time goes by I start feeling super relaxed. This feels comparable to TAC. Feeling quite content and no rush to do anything. Smell is great. All I can really smell is the neroli like most Ps I’ve tried. As time goes by I can feel this one really slowing me down as in my actions are less calculated. As soon as I step out my car to go in the store a blonde 30s Caucasian woman who’s parked next to me gets out of her car sees me and smiles like as friendly as you can imagine, Mr. Rogers if you will. It takes me about 4 times as long to walk towards the entrance than usual. I don’t seem to have a care in the world. Walking very slowly. The best way I can describe it is anti-paranoid. The total opposite end of the spectrum. Nothing seems to faze me. The music playing in the store is neither interesting to me or bothering me (sometimes the music they play is annoying). About 25minites into it now. Head is starting to feel light. I walked passed a few women, the younger ones seem to be drawn and respond much better. Men seem to notice me as well. **10 MCG** About 30 minutes into shopping I add 1 more spray to other side of neck. Time seems to be slowing down to halt. I’m feeling the onset of difficulty breathing. Almost like the heart rate has slowed down a bit. My presence seems to be even less noticed now. Not ghosting, but no pulling attraction. Kind of feel numb, mentally and physically. My movements have become extremely slow and tunnel vision has set in. From someone else’s perspective I probably look like I’m in deep thought. Not a single care in the world either. Was super indecisive in the store, didn’t even end up getting anything. Looked around at a ton of things, mostly just stuck staring. **15 MCG** Less than 1 hour from initial sprays I head out to my car to go to next store. Spray 1 more spray to Adam’s apple this time. About 10 minutes later. At this point I’m totally mentally relaxed but not necessarily physically. I’ve become so calm, formulating words and sentences takes extra effort and I feel like the most docile person on the planet. A couple gals in the store I went to (20s Caucasians, brunettes) and a 20s Caucasian male seemed to have their attention drawn to me. The male seemed to be looking for a reason to help me. Feeling very gentleman like myself. I found it difficult to maintain eye contact with people, however. **Conclusion..** _Sillage:_ 7 feet _Scent:_ Orange, nice _Rating:_ 10/10 _Length of effects:_ At about the 2 hour mark the effects and even the smell were almost entirely gone. _Consistency:_ 100% self effects 20-50% on others _Self effects:_ Relaxing, calming, disinhibiting, numbing, altruistic inducing, borderline apathetic, cognitive function slower, desire reducer, pain reducer, sedative _Effects on others:_ Small social enhancer, and very little attention grabbing _Side notes:_ Very nice putative indeed. If a person just wants to be calm and relaxed and forget the world then this is a good one. I imagine in high doses it could induce sleepiness. At lower dosages shows promise for being courageous but higher dosages exhibit social awkwardness and timidity. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/6 "2017-01-05T04:36:50Z")
**P133 test** _(Togo)_ **5 MCG** Sprayed 1 spray P133 to right side of neck just below ear. Let settle and headed out to run errands. Self effects start to kick in and I start to feel a tad light and relaxed. Feeling pretty euphoric and disinhibited. As time goes by I start feeling super relaxed. This feels comparable to TAC. Feeling quite content and no rush to do anything. Smell is great. All I can really smell is the neroli like most Ps I’ve tried. As time goes by I can feel this one really slowing me down as in my actions are less calculated. As soon as I step out my car to go in the store a blonde 30s Caucasian woman who’s parked next to me gets out of her car sees me and smiles like as friendly as you can imagine, Mr. Rogers if you will. It takes me about 4 times as long to walk towards the entrance than usual. I don’t seem to have a care in the world. Walking very slowly. The best way I can describe it is anti-paranoid. The total opposite end of the spectrum. Nothing seems to faze me. The music playing in the store is neither interesting to me or bothering me (sometimes the music they play is annoying). About 25minites into it now. Head is starting to feel light. I walked passed a few women, the younger ones seem to be drawn and respond much better. Men seem to notice me as well. **10 MCG** About 30 minutes into shopping I add 1 more spray to other side of neck. Time seems to be slowing down to halt. I’m feeling the onset of difficulty breathing. Almost like the heart rate has slowed down a bit. My presence seems to be even less noticed now. Not ghosting, but no pulling attraction. Kind of feel numb, mentally and physically. My movements have become extremely slow and tunnel vision has set in. From someone else’s perspective I probably look like I’m in deep thought. Not a single care in the world either. Was super indecisive in the store, didn’t even end up getting anything. Looked around at a ton of things, mostly just stuck staring. **15 MCG** Less than 1 hour from initial sprays I head out to my car to go to next store. Spray 1 more spray to Adam’s apple this time. About 10 minutes later. At this point I’m totally mentally relaxed but not necessarily physically. I’ve become so calm, formulating words and sentences takes extra effort and I feel like the most docile person on the planet. A couple gals in the store I went to (20s Caucasians, brunettes) and a 20s Caucasian male seemed to have their attention drawn to me. The male seemed to be looking for a reason to help me. Feeling very gentleman like myself. I found it difficult to maintain eye contact with people, however. **Conclusion..** _Sillage:_ 7 feet _Scent:_ Orange, nice _Rating:_ 10/10 _Length of effects:_ At about the 2 hour mark the effects and even the smell were almost entirely gone. _Consistency:_ 100% self effects 20-50% on others _Self effects:_ Relaxing, calming, disinhibiting, numbing, altruistic inducing, borderline apathetic, cognitive function slower, desire reducer, pain reducer, sedative _Effects on others:_ Small social enhancer, and very little attention grabbing _Side notes:_ Very nice putative indeed. If a person just wants to be calm and relaxed and forget the world then this is a good one. I imagine in high doses it could induce sleepiness. At lower dosages shows promise for being courageous but higher dosages exhibit social awkwardness and timidity. ---
**Author:** ![Trillmendous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Trillmendous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trillmendous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p133-inconclusive/65956/7 "2017-01-19T07:50:10Z")
I decided to finally try out my freebie while i ran some errands. I didn’t really notice much of it’s effects on others as I didn’t encounter too many people while running these errands but after I was all settled I seem to have had enough confidence to DM someone I’ve been trying to talk to for a while now but never had the balls to man up and do it. It was just one spray but I think I had a boost in confidence and kind of a carefree attitude while I was wearing this.