# Putative Pheromone P135 - Inconclusive **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [June 8, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p135-inconclusive/65957 "2014-06-08T03:23:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p135-inconclusive/65957/1 "2014-06-08T03:23:38Z")
**[Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) P135 - Inconclusive** [Experimone](https://a314.com/)\*\*? \*\*[Putative](https://a314.com/) Pheromone P135 \*\*Check it out in store here: \*\* [Putative P135 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Available in all dosages between 125 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray. **Dosage Guidance (Successful Ranges Tested So Far):5mcg - 20mcg** \*\*Common ways to apply: N/A \*\* \*Please keep in mind this is merely what has worked well in the past for a very limited number of users who have conducted a limited number of tests. This information is merely provided as a convenient starting point. It’s good to be open minded and adventurous, as it’s quite possible that dosages much smaller and perhaps even larger provide useful (though often different) responses. Many molecules we have are active in at least 2 useful ranges.\* \*\*Observed P135 Effects: \*\* \*\* N/A \*\* Only 6 of P135 users gave a review. They had an initial conclusion that it gives out calm, relaxing, dreamy feeling; focus, heighten sense effect; reminisce type of vibe. It’s being thought of as a social mones because it helps in conversations/interactions. We are encouraging more users to test this putative and share their experiences using P135. \*\*Interesting Combos: \*\* - _Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread!_ **Real User Feedback:** > [@](#): > > P135 review > 05/29/2015 > 4 sprays @5mcg/spray > > Self effects: gave me a bit of anxiety to start?? Not sure but maybe it was from anticipation of what effects it would have. Later on as i stopped trying to look for signs, i felt this calm dreamy feeling, things didnt bother me, i felt like i cared less about things as they happened, but it felt like i could focus more readily on specific objects, where as my peripheral awareness felt shitty. Seemed to bring about a reminisce type vibe to it. > > Other people: brings up conversation easily, makes me think it is a social mone, maybe it taps into memories since others also seem to be in a reminiscent mindset also. Family opens me easily, and i feel more in tune with paying attention to the convo. Seems to envoke a carefree feel in my vicinity. > > 05/30/2015 > 4 sprays @ 5mcg/spray > Second day of testing in my home, and it seems to definitely bring about a carefree feel to it. Things are less serious but in the way that people just don’t care to get angry over things which seemingly would normally make them mad. Gives an air of joker-ness, and makes me act randomly, at least more so than already. If i had to compare it to anything i have tried, it would comparison of P96 mood lifter, TAC relaxant effect, SOB asshat vibe or jokester vibe/maybe APi for smooth status, or the calmative effect of P86 , but it reminds me of the effects of Anol , and a slight hint of Bnol. Conversations are a bit deeper than normal since its family, but it has more Anol feel to it. > > 06/02/2015 > 1 spray @5mcg > Self effects: calming effect but nearly as pronouced as 4 sprays. Allowed people to share their thoughts a little more. Other than that after an hour and 20 minutes of exposure to time in class, there was not much else i noticed, other than its calming effect, not just on myself but the classroom as well. > > 06/03/2015 > 2 sprays @5mcg > Friend noted his spacing out, as well as my own, and also noted that it increases focus of objects he pays attention to, but everything else on his periphery is shitty. It came in line with my experience, and i showed him what i had here on my phone for self effects. I gave him the instructions of observing others to see what the effects were. I didnt get to see him after class, but ill be messaging him shortly when I’m not busy. He told me it added a calm quality to his overall experience, and this was also correlated with another friend to whom i gave aproximately the same dose to as well, who i did see after class but oy because he has the same sociology class as i do. He said it made the girl he was talking to shy, but without further informatiom from other sources, i cannot validate that it was P135 responsible for that shyness or quietness. > > If i had to round this all out, i would say this. > > 1. P135 causes people to space out for maybe a quick couple seconds, whether they just space out or play possible scenarios in their head about whatever i wouldn’t be able to tell. I know for my freind he says its like those movies where people imagine shit happening and then they return back to the present, and for me my brain races through many thoughts at once. > 2. Calms people down in a way that’s different than TAC , but works on a similar level, without the orgasm thing. > 3. Has a decent level of socialness to it, as it gets people to talk on a level just short of small talk but can escalate from their pretty quickly, people seem to warm to you quick. - 1. [pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosloths-p135-observations/64454) > [@](#): > > Im still working on figuring this one out in terms of social settings, but it appears to bring the level of energy down to some degree, making it not as exclamatory in a classroom setting. Going to work with it and see what comes up during my last week here in classes. Im convinced that it has the ability to recall memories, or some kind of memory effects where people will bring up past events in convo, like a reminiscing type memory effect. Could it help in bringing up information one may have studied on based on a certain situation? This would be something to try and test. Meaning i would have to spray myself, study slmething, and then give myself a practice test while wearing it a couple hours later and see if anything comes up while thinking about the questions presented. Hmmm it gives me an idea… - [pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherosloths-p135-observations/64454/3) > [@](#): > > So I have been testing testing p135 for a while… > > observations: > at 5mcg -can hear stuff from a long long distance,can see better,things looks sharper and some times has an airbrush effect,notice minor details.However,this heighten sense effect has a really short lifespan(15-30 mins).People seems to open you and talk about events from the past.There is a verbal dis-inhibition effect with this one, so try not to get angry(you wouldn’t like what you say). > > at 10mcg-people tend to open you and say the most inappropriate things from their past(stuff you wouldn’t tell people you know because you don’t want to ruin your rep).If you try to remember something from the past,you will be stuck in your head for good couple of seconds.For some reason, you can’t get angry! > > The bad > Make sure to clean your application points properly or you will act like an amplifier of anger. > > The ugly > For some reason,next day this molecule brings back bad memories from past and makes you self pitiful/angry/depressive.This is the reason I didn’t go over 10mcg. > > Possible uses:talk about the past with an old friend,unlock repressed memories and help with amnesia. > > What would I call this molecule:back to the past - [jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/let-the-games-begin/64533/5) > [@](#): > > So yesterday (Sunday), I decided to meet my family at church for the first time in a few weeks. I thought it would be a good time to try Puppy Love around people. In a hurry, I grabbed a bottle and sprayed it on my wrist. As soon as I smelled it, I realized it was the wrong bottle! (Puppy Love is the only vanilla scent I have.) Guess which one it was. I can’t really mix the two because the perfumes are so different, so I thought “Why not?” and sprayed my other wrist. When I arrived at church, I didn’t feel nearly as anxious or agitated as a normally do at church, even around people who normally bother me the most. I also didn’t feel as frazzled as I normally do when I return home on Sunday. I think it was a success. - [Fairymone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fairymones-journal-for-p135/65524) > [@](#): > > Today I woke up feeling anxious about the day. Later in the morning, I sprayed P135 (5mcg per spray) onto my hand and sniffed it. Within a few seconds, I felt a strange sense of peace and calm. A couple of hours later, I sniffed the pump to see if I could feel the same effect and I did! I think if I pair it with Instant Shine , it might be just right for a job interview. I’ll let you know how it turns out. - [Fairymone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p135-i-think-ive-found-the-magic/65508) > [@](#): > > P135 I love and people men and women treated me good with this one on. There is a weird brain glitch I got sometimes with it though where I would see something move or forget where I was at. I have seen different effects from other users. - [justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-chronicles-of-chrisepz/65622/26) > [@](#): > > and P135 seems to do something I’m trying to put my finger on. In 2 different cases in the last week I wore it and talked sitting next to Christina, and within the next hour she got dressed really nice and did up her makeup, even though she wasn’t leaving the house either time. - [Doctorawesomeness](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/doctorawesomes-pheromone-journal/65326/9) > [@](#): > > I have been testing out P135 and I have noticed some interesting self-effects. I feel a great since of calm and focus. Mind is clear and I complete task with ease. I started out with one spray 5 micrograms and moved up to 10 micrograms. I will keep testing it and see the effects on others as well. - [neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-p135-do/66116/7) ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p135-inconclusive/65957/2 "2015-09-14T01:11:22Z")
PRODUCTS: P135 (5 mcg per spray) X 3 to neck (11h00 AM) Cross-referenced posts for solo testings of the same putative in my journal: #93 (15 mcg), #148 (20 mcg). Location: Home alone and Walm\*rt First Impressions: It smells [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) (6%), no other fragrance or note being detected. No immediate physiological effects except slower breathing and a feeling of relaxation. Usage & Application Points: Dosage : 5 mcg per spray applied 3 X to different spots on neck, for a total of 15 mcg. Most Appropriate Environment: I figured I’d try solo P135 once more and I decided the best time to do this was during the weekend, at home, while the kids and girlfriend were out because of the hypno-focus and irritability effects I had on my last try. I don’t see this working in work setting. Types of Effects: The summary: Inner peace, hypno-focus (visual and auditive), overthinking, nostalgia, love for arts (music in particular), antisocial/introvert vibe to others, irritability, carelessness for the outside world, tinglings (face and fingers). After fifteen minutes, my mind started drifting a lot, I was thinking random thoughts, no bad thoughts though, this went on ten minutes until I decided to listen to music on my computer. The music sounded very crisp with the lyrics almost ‘clacking’ (hard to describe). My first listen was a random from my general playlist, it was Anthrax’s “Who cares wins” and frankly, I was overcome by a general “don’t care” a la don’t-worry-about-life feeling. Got again that extreme focus feeling, but not necessarily a useful focus work-wise… mostly an hypno-focus. For example, I would move my head, but my eyes stayed put wherever they choose to be. The TV was on, at a normal volume, but it was as though it was off, I just didn’t notice it. I caught myself looking at Wind\*ws OS clock at the bottom of my computer screen for like a full minute. I was really attentive to lyrics and understood them very clearly, even though I had not fully understood before on previous listenings (english not being my primary language and Anthrax has, well, not the most articulate singer around). Though I must admit I had not really listened to any Anthrax since my teen days, my playlist being very large 🙂. I felt an inner peace vibe. On my first P135 solo try, I had suspected irritability from the P135 with the kids, altough his time, I was alone, I felt smooth… until I got out of the house, which I will talk about later. I felt a numbness at the tip of my fingers maybe thirty minutes into the test it lasted for thirty minutes. I was hitting the keyboard keys and I did not really feel the hits on my fingertips. I was feeling good inside, but not expressing any joy on the outside or anything like that. I got a tingling sensation in my cheeks and face for the next thirty minutes, on and off. I noticed an acute pain at the top of one of my feet I had not felt since then, though this might be coincidential. My jaw was so relaxed, it usually really ain’t the case. The mp3 playlist went after randomly to Barbra Streisand’s “Memory” (I know I have a weird and eclectic playlist). A very nice song, but it sounded especially glorious on P135. I could feel the same as if I was attending a Streisand concert first-row. After that, I decided on what to listen to. I tuned in to the late Laura Branigan’s “The power of love”, a song that uplifts me and always gives me goose bumps all over. I just had to try it on P135 after the Streisand experience. I fell in love with an angel, tears came to my eyes, the song emotion was incredibly vivid. That lady made Celine Dion look like an amateur with her version (which existed before, by the way) which is much more heartfelt, poignant and authentic. Afterwards, I listened to another of my classic favorites “Amsterdam” by belgian 60’s singer Jacques Brel, a crescendoing song in which he nearly spits his heart out near the end. I actually felt I was in the harbour he is describing. I then tuned in to Labaich’s “B Mashina”, a song that usually gives me strange physiological fascist leader type of vibe (I’m not into that, don’t worry, just a manner of speech) and it induces a light trance in me every time I listen to it. It is a strange and strong song that completely changes direction like ten times during the running time. I listened to it and my whole face was tingling. I got so into it. When the neo-classical finale hit me, it was downright climactic. The hypno-focus I was talking earlier was totally on the songs by that time, if a green polka-dot chihuhaha had crossed my living room at that moment, I probably would have been like: ‘Uh! You seen a dog? What dog?’. Then I pumped up the volume to other songs from my top-50-ever: Guerre Froide’s “St Exupery”, a coldwave song that tells the story about the french writer Saint-Exupery whose warplane has been shot down by the germans during WWII. I just didn’t move at all during the whole runtime, I felt like I was seeing the doomed plane, feeling some kind of empathy. I will not go into the details of the feelings every song gave me, this would probably bore you all to death, but they did hit hard. I was barely moving, even my eyes were blinking like half the usual rate. During Wolfsheim’s “Upstairs”, my whole face was tingling again. Then followed Covenant “Like tears in rain”, Cabaret Voltaire’s “I want you” and Psyche’s “Sanctuary”. I ended it all with Nine Inch Nails’ “Burn”. I made me want to set the world on fire, NIN style (not like those wusses in the ‘We are yoooooung’ song, lol). NIN did put the inner peace I was feeling before to a pause, but it returned to normal afterwards. I mean, this is no Bobby McFerrin song. I got a clear “it-takes-you-there” effect on my side as far as music is concerned, so I guess that watching a movie on P135 might be an experience worth trying in the future, it might be outstanding, at the theater, to don’t give a frock about people talking and munching popcorn, while looking at a giant screen in the dark, it would be hard to let the hypno-focus effect (visual and auditive) wander elsewhere from the movie screen. I then decided to look at the social effects by going out. Honestly, it was nothing pleasant however. I went to Walm\*rt. I got irritated at least four times very easily by people blocking the aisles, either they put their cart in the middle while looking for an item, or they just stalled in the middle of an aisle to chat with another person… I felt I was going to turn into the Larry David of “Curb your Enthusiasm” because I was so annoyed… I saw some very fine looking girls, but I was like a ghost to them. Generally, people were not courteous with me at all. At a time, I turned a corner in the store just after thinking to myself, “socially, this mone is so bad”. It was like a conspiration, ten to twelve very cute girls 18 to 30 came out from every aisle, in the main hallway in every direction almost all at once, I gave them all a look when I was quick enough to do so, quick glances which stuck a second on their side, I was feeling a drive inside me, but it was like an all-out attack and I just didn’t know where to follow, my radar was going AWOL. I saw no smiles however since I could not focus on any single girl. I checked out with the same cashier as a few days back, the one that wouldn’t stop talking to me, she barely said hello and goodbye this time, altough I greeted her with a big smile and a “Happy to see you again (her first name), how are you today?”. On my way out, I held a door for an old lady, I had been waiting in place like fifteen seconds for her to finally arrive, she went through and did not even say thanks: how rude to do that to such a nice guy! I have mixed feelings about that putative, do i love it or not? With P135, I guess I’d be the crazy weirdo that’s so into the music on the dance floor that girls would either be scared or find ridiculous, so it’s not a party molecule. For an evening of philosophic discussions with litterate friends, it might be something to try if the irritability can be controlled. This is definitely not for using at work because of the hypno-focus effect and irritability. This is not a flirting or a sexual molecule either because it gives me a strong introvert vibe and gives out a potentially antisocial vibe as well. For introspection and killing spare time listening to music alone at home, I rate the product as outstanding! For listening to music while driving a car, I would never dare try based on this experience, I see it as a definite hazard, at least at the 15 mcg dose. It makes internal emotions vivid especially when those are tied with some form of souvenir or nostalgia. It makes one don’t care much about the outside everyday-life emotions however. I will probably try p135 again in public, on a week-end, to verifiy the antisocial vibe. After that, I might decide to keep what’s left in my bottle to enhance artistic appreciation on rainy days, because, for this purpose, if confirmed, the molecule absolutely rocks. Listening to Beethoven’s ninth on this must be something! Strength: Irritability 4/10 (confirmed), hypno-focus 10/10 (confirmed), eye-stalling effect 8/10 (confirmed), overthinking 8/10 (to be confirmed), flabbergasted by music and it-takes-you-there effect 10/10 (both to be confirmed), tinglings (fingers and face) 4/10 (to be confirmed), antisocial vibe to others 8/10 (to be confirmed), nostalgia (7/10) (to be confirmed), palate freezing 0/10 (did not happen at all this time around at even higher dose, and I did get a good whiff of the product, so, discarded). Length of Effects and/or Tenacity: Most effects, except the tinglings, lasted like 3-4 hours. The tinglings were on and off but lasted one hour at the most. The eye-stalling effect continued up to the evening after that, but none of the other effects did last that long. Effectiveness & Consistency: The irritability, hypno-focus and eye-stalling effects have all been confirmed and are consistant on my side. This is the strongest dose I have tried yet for P135, new effects have been detected and will need to be verified: overthinking, flabbergasted by music (it-takes-you-there feeling), tinglings, antisocial vibe and nostalgia. The light palate freezing effect (P77-style) I got on one of my tries did no reoccur this time, as said before, I discard that effect as coincidential. Diffusion/Sillage: I was alone at home, so no sillage could be observed there. At the store, a sillage was present, but that sillage was not to my social or sexual advantage, that’s for sure. The sillage seemed rather short since I noticed negatives only from persons I was very close to (like 2 feet or less). If it had a texture, what would it feel like? Silk on one side, sandpaper on the other. If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like? Any homemade comfort food What celebrity or public figure is it most like? Arthur Rimbaud, a french poet If it were music, what would it sound like? : I made an extensive review of music in the ‘effects’ section, for the curious and/or adventurous ones, here are youtube links to the songs mentionned in this report, but remember, during my experience, I had audio only (mp3s), no video whatsoever, I was basically staring at the Wind\*ws Player kaleidoscope animations or elsewhere randomly on the screen. Laura Branigan: [youtube.com/watch?v=WaMlojYHkf0](http://youtube.com/watch?v=WaMlojYHkf0) Laibach: [youtube.com/watch?v=UgqjnzkYPnA](http://youtube.com/watch?v=UgqjnzkYPnA) Guerre Froide: [youtube.com/watch?v=oYqA6QW0jlw](http://youtube.com/watch?v=oYqA6QW0jlw) Covenant: [youtube.com/watch?v=Qpyd\_pJY3GI](http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qpyd_pJY3GI) Cabaret Voltaire: [youtube.com/watch?v=juligEIi3Sg&list=RDjuligEIi3Sg](http://youtube.com/watch?v=juligEIi3Sg&list=RDjuligEIi3Sg) Psyche: [youtube.com/watch?v=k7S8FqJB7pw](http://youtube.com/watch?v=k7S8FqJB7pw) Nine Inch Nails: [youtube.com/watch?v=APvaP86BzCc](http://youtube.com/watch?v=APvaP86BzCc) Anthrax : [youtube.com/watch?v=gtD\_GUvu-wc](http://youtube.com/watch?v=gtD_GUvu-wc) Barbra Streisand: [youtube.com/watch?v=78Ruh0ewBVo](http://youtube.com/watch?v=78Ruh0ewBVo) Jacques Brel: [youtube.com/watch?v=n2kkr0e\_dTQ](http://youtube.com/watch?v=n2kkr0e_dTQ) ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p135-inconclusive/65957/3 "2015-10-26T19:29:47Z")
PRODUCT: P135 (5 mcg per spray) X 4 to neck (8h00 PM) Cross-referenced posts for solo testings of the same putative in my journal: #93 (15 mcg), #148 (20 mcg). This is my second and will probably be my **penultimate** full detailed report on P135. I still have the social aspects to recheck, after that, I should be ready for other molecules. Location: Home alone First Impressions: It smells [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) (6%), no other fragrance or note being detected. Let’s specify that four simultaneous sprays at different places in the neck, without layering, that makes a lot of neroli and it does smell a bit strong. I felt a light burning in my upper respiratory system for 5 minutes, this disappeared quickly after. I did not inhale directly the products or mist and this is the first time I get that with any product. It could be due to the hefty simultaneous dose, but it’s not the first time I use heavy doses of neroli-fragranced products, so I’ll consider this as coincidential. I observed much slower breathing and a deep feeling of relaxation. My jaw was also very relaxed. Usage & Application Points: Dosage : 5 mcg per spray applied 4 X to different spots around neck, for a total of 20 mcg. Most Appropriate Environment: I figured I’d try solo P135 once more during the weekend, alone at home because of the incredible feeling I have experienced on my last try regarding enjoyment of music and because of irritability I have experienced in the past with kids and people in general. The social aspect will be rechecked on a future try, but all I got in my previous try was a strongly asocial vibe from people. Types of Effects observed this time: The summary: Inner peace, hypno-focus (visual and auditive), eye-stalling effect, overthinking, nostalgia through arts, deep enjoyment for arts (music and movie), carelessness for the outside world. After two minutes, I was already having the eye-stalling effect: I was moving my head, but my eyes stayed put wherever they choose to be. My mind started thinking a lot, very random, I don’t find that phase useful in any way. It’s just like having a little hamster spinning in a wheel like crazy in my head without any goal or logic. I skipped straight to the arts part. I put on some music again on my computer. The music sounded vivid, the lyrics were striking, I refered to this sound caracteristic as ‘clacking’ in my previous test and I’ll stick to it. I get out-of-this world immersion in songs, the music seems to pop out. I pay crazy attention to lyrics. It’s like listening to HD music instead of music even though it comes from a very basic computer speaker. I was staring at the computer screen, sometimes on the same point for a whole minute. My first four listens were random songs from my general playlist, I got Mylene Farmer’s “Pourvu qu’elles soient douces”, David Gahan’s “Song for Europe”, Paul Haig’s “Over you” and Cabaret Voltaire’s “Sensoria”. David Gahan’s song, a Roxy Music cover, was particularily striking since the lyrics can be considered a powerhouse in terms of nostalgia, and the nostalgia-through-arts I get from P135 is very intense. In any way, the experience is much deeper, listening to any song, than a regular listening session. One of the rare useful aspects of the P135 hypno-focus effect is the ability to appreciate musical art to its fullest. There were three songs I chosen (i.e. not random) after that. It was Rational Youth’s “Cite Phosphore” which I was curious to enjoy P135-style. I heard it like never before. I have also chosen two songs with limited and more repetitive lyrics, as well as hypnotic beats: The Normal’s “Warm Leatherette” and Kraftwerk’s original “The Robots”. Altough they sounded great, the experience was not as deep as with songs possessing more complete lyrics. But still it was so vivid and crisp sounding. I got the “it-takes-you-there” effect again. You can refer to post #93 for a description of this, if need be, since I don’t want to get redundant. Last time, I indicated that listening to Beethoven’s ninth on P135 was in my plans. So I did. All four movements. I wanted to hear it with Herbert von Karajan conducting, he’s my all time fav, but sadly, I only have that on vinyl and my turntable was not wired. I resorted to the Bernstein’s interpretation which is very respectable too. Staring at my computer screen, it sounded excellent, but I closed my eyes after the first few minutes, I layed flat on the couch, and it was just glorious. Despite the climactic nature of several parts of the ninth, I felt a deep peace of mind, not caring about the wicked world one bit 😉. I would have loved to follow it up with Beethoven’s “Ruinen von Athens”, but sadly, I have that on vinyl only also. If I ever get to see a symphonic orchestra live, please let me be high on P135 🙂! During my previous testing, I made the hypothesis that watching a movie on P135 was something that had to be tried out. I chose a movie from my DVD stash: John Carpenter’s “Christine”. I put the sound through the stereo speaker system and I dimmed out the lights. The image was very vivid. The color really stood out for an old movie. Carpenter’s music was just haunting. The 50’s songs played hard on the nostalgy effect of P135. It felt like I was inside the movie and watching it third-perspective from inside the screen. The experience was very immersive. This convinced me that P135 can be used to appreciate movies as well as music. I’d guess that looking at paintings or statues in a museum on P135 might be a great experience too. I’d suggest you don’t try the Louvre on this, though, or you’re bound to spend at least a year inside. The 15 mcg dose is sufficient to fully enjoy the art effects of P135, altough are even more acute at 20 mcg. I see no interest in trying it at a even higher dose. At 5 or 10 mcg, the effect were not as interesting. I consider 15 mcg to be my sweet spot for this molecule as far as arts appreciation is concerned. I’ll comment on the ‘social dose’ once I experiment with it again and if I obtain any success. Do NOT drive a vehicule or operate heavy machinery at 15 mcg, even less at 20 mcg, especially if music is on. This time around, I could not evaluate any social aspect of the molecule for the reason I was alone. Strength: Irritability 0/10 (confirmed before, but I was alone so it was not observed this time), hypno-focus 10/10 (confirmed), eye-stalling effect 10/10 (confirmed), overthinking 8/10 (confirmed), flabbergasted by music, movies and it-takes-you-there effect 10/10 (confirmed), tinglings (fingers and face) 0/10 (only observed in one out of four tries, discarded as coincidential), antisocial vibe to others 0/10 (to be confirmed, no social contacts this time), nostalgia through arts (8/10) (confirmed). Length of Effects and/or Tenacity: Most effects lasted like 5 hours, then I went to sleep. I slept very well. Effectiveness & Consistency: The irritability (except when alone), the hypno-focus, the eye-stalling effects, the overthinking when the mind is not busy with arts, the appreciation for music and movies, the “it-takes-you-there” feeling and the nostalgia through arts have all been confirmed and are consistant on my side. This is the strongest dose I have tried yet for P135, altough no significant lasting new effects have been detected. The antisocial vibe yet has to be confirmed in a future try. Two effects have been discarded as coincidential, the fingers and face tingling effect and the palate freezing effect (P7…-style). Diffusion/Sillage: I was alone at home, so no sillage could be observed there. Concerning texture, edible/drinkable item and celebrity, I’ll stick to what was already mentionned in post #93 so as not to get redundant. Concerning music, it has been detailed already in my above test description. These are clips I found on Youtube, sorry for the bad sound and image quality of some of them. I had access to better sounding versions (without video) during my testing. Mylene Farmer – [youtube.com/watch?v=-oOSEDzT6tI&feature=youtu.be](http://youtube.com/watch?v=-oOSEDzT6tI&feature=youtu.be) Dave Gahan - [youtube.com/watch?v=lqZYoAVEdC8](http://youtube.com/watch?v=lqZYoAVEdC8) Paul Haig - [youtube.com/watch?v=N61jO78\_96Y](http://youtube.com/watch?v=N61jO78_96Y) Cabaret Voltaire - [youtube.com/watch?v=RkfzXq0tA3c](http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkfzXq0tA3c) (epileptic alert) Rational Youth - [youtube.com/watch?v=x9kRUjWhOYc](http://youtube.com/watch?v=x9kRUjWhOYc) The Normal - [youtube.com/watch?v=kZKAa4kCARY](http://youtube.com/watch?v=kZKAa4kCARY) Kraftwerk - [youtube.com/watch?v=VXa9tXcMhXQ](http://youtube.com/watch?v=VXa9tXcMhXQ) ---
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**P135 Report** This is 5 MCG a spray 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) and was the freebie and as always I report on it and want to thank Androtics for being an amazing company and this is the least I can do for them. **Self Effects** **5MCG** Slight Energy boost and confidence increases a little **10MCG** energy increases more along with confidence. Now I feel sexier and like I am the man very large and in charge. I get a cool sexier vibe from this. **15MCG** I am now really over the top here with confidence. I feel like I can go to any woman and get what I want from them this is how much confidence I have now. I feel like a boss and CEO drinking Champaign on a private jet. I feel so cool and like I am just styling in a custom made suit. I feel slightly connected to music to. This is just way over the top confidence here. **20-25MCG** I have the same effects as I did at 15MCG just stronger. I am not finding a transition with this molecule. What I am getting though is like a brain glitch where sometimes I forget where I am at and see things move. I love the confidence, but there is a peculiar brain glitch with this molecule. **Solo** **Test 1** 2 sprays on neck for 10MCG. Right away I get a confidence boost and fell like a CEO and feel good and like I am the coolest person in the world. 1st stop is Autozone. I walk in there and is a 50’s white woman there. She is checking me out when I get within 5 feet of here or so. I smile back and she blushes a little and then goes back to what she was doing. I grab what I need and then a different lady 30 Hispanic checks me out at the register. Nothing out of the ordinary with her. 2nd stop Lovely Wal Mart. I have to get some groceries and so I go to the milk aisle and there is a white 60’s man in front of where I need and he sees that I am looking at the milk and right away he apologizes and moves his cart and keeps apologizing to me. I say no worries and he overbearingly apologizes. I take this as a respect hit for sure. Next section is the fruit aisle. I am looking for a good set of bananas and I go to grab the ones I want and there is a 50’s white heavy set woman that works there, and immediately she apologizes for being in the way. She wasn’t even really in the way at all. She asks me if I need anything or help with anything. I say no I have everything I need and smile and then go about my way. I go to check out and there is a 20’s lady about a 7. I get a few IOI’s from here as she is swiping all the items at the register. I smile back at her and make small chat with her and then finally thank her and am on my way. So far I am thinking this is a status/respect molecule with a slight attraction factor to it. **Test 2** **2 sprays 10MCG** I went to meet a guy about buying his bedliner for my new truck. I get there and right away can tell it won’t fit. He gets out of his truck and notices to and then starts apologizing a lot and he is so sorry for wasting my time. I say no worries my man and it was right around the corner from where I lived and he drove an hour to meet me so I found this to be odd he would apologize for me meeting him 5 minutes away when he drove an hour to meet me. It is super bowl Sunday so I am next to little ceasers pizza and I decide to grab a few for me and some of my friends. I get in the and there is a 20 white guy standing there and he is super eager to help me and I ask for 2 for there $5 pizzas and he is quick to get them and then asks is the anyway he can help me. I say no that is all. I pay for them and then right away he runs to the door to hold it open for me and then says you have a great day. Now there is at least 4-5 other customers standing inline he leaves there. I get in my truck and decide to just look at him and see how he reacts to other customers as I have a clear view of him from my truck. Now he doesn’t hold the door or really smile or anything with any other customers. So respect hit for sure here. **Test 3** **3 sprays to neck for 15MCG** Now this is important to note. The night before I was in a lot of pain so I took a 10MG Vicodin to help sleep. Why this is important to note is Vicodin lowers my testosterone levels and makes me kind of Beta big time for a few days normally. I go to work and I am getting respect and feel like a CEO. Everyone I come in contact with is holding the door for me and offering me things like a cigarette. I am feeling super confident here. What is weird is I was expecting my test levels to be lower and also my prostate to mess with me to. This is the first time ever that I feel an external source like this molecule may actually raise my test levels. I wish I could prove this as I am sure of this and am in complete shock. Now before the 15MCG I did feel like I expected and kind of soft and Beta and after the 15MCG I felt great and know my test levels are slightly higher with the 15MCG. I had a trainee today and she is 58 and kind of the dominant type of woman and feels like she has something to prove especially around men. Everyone has had some issue with her. I had no issues and she listened to every word during training. After about 5 hours I got a huge sexual urge. Now this had nothing to do with the woman being there as she is not the least bit attractive and feel this is due to this molecule and the first time I got this feeling. I get a few random effects like this sexual thing and the random brain glitch with this molecule. If I can reproduce this sexual effect of this molecule I would say this is a great molecule for men and women and I really believe this increases either testosterone or DHEA levels somehow. **Test 4** **15MCG on Neck** So from my very interesting results and in the name of science I decide to take 2 10MG Vicodin this time even though I am ok with pain. Environment was outdoors at a very busy swap meet with 70 degree weather. I felt very relaxed and soft after taking the 20MG Vicodin as expected. After I put the 15MCG of this molecule on I felt very dominant and assertive. Walking around I got a few IOI’s from women and noticed a few checking me out, but nothing over the top. I am with the wife and this maybe why to I don’t know. Every time I get close to a table to check out items for sale men and women apologize and move out of my way even though they are fine being a few feet away from me. But this time nothing really big to note. I haven’t taken any pain medications in 4 months and find it interesting how the molecule seems to bring my test levels back to normal or at least it feels this way. I didn’t get any memory or seeing things random glitch that sometimes this molecule does to me. I didn’t expect to much out of this as it was an outside environment. If it matters it was maybe a 5MPH wind and 70 degrees and night setting here in AZ. **Combinations** Let’s face it no one wears single molecules so I thought I would include some combos here. **TEST 1** 2 sprays 10MCG with 5MCG TAC’ I have to go to work early to turn in some paperwork. I go outside where the boss and a few others hang out and smoke. Within a few minutes of being in the mone cloud he all of a sudden starts talking to me and asking how I am doing. He never does this as normally he is a cocky prick and all about himself. Then he goes on to tell me how he appreciates my work and how I work so hard. He never tells anyone this ever. So total respect hit here. Others are starting to show up and all of a sudden I am in the center of about 10 people. The guy left of me 50 white male is asking my input on some questions with equipment and procedures. I am explaining a few things and giving him some tips. Then he thanks me for my input and says you know why don’t you put in to be a supervisor as I listen to peoples need and I know how to direct things. So I am very happy with these results. I had a trainee again 55 male kind of quiet and very old school. I was worried he wouldn’t listen to me as I am 36 and he sometimes thinks he knows a lot more and tends not to listen to the younger people. We get to the piece of equipment I will train him on and for anyone in the mining business it is a 200TON Caterpillar 789D Haul Truck. I had his full attention and he listened very well and followed my exact instructions. He went on to say how he was very impressed with my knowledge and thanked me at the end of the day for helping. He said he was so impressed that he requested me again the next day as he was learning more from me than anyone else. Total respect and that was some of the nicest things I have heard in a long time and it felt good. **Test 2** 2 sprays 1X Ammo/5 MCG layered over Ammo/2 drops 25% Hedione EO MIX(Post#170 for formula)/10 MCG P135 I thought this would bring my work mix to another level. I felt very good and like a boss with this setup even more than the P135 by itself. Everyone was in a good mood when I got to work and offering me things like a cup of coffee or a cigarette. I got a lot of respect but not in an intimidating way like A314 REV32. Everyone starts bragging how good they are at there job when they are in my mone cloud like they are trying to impress me. I know this is the P135… at work with the Ammo. On a side note I think this P135 paired with Ammo is a great combo and steers the Ammo in more of a commanding respect vibe without being harsh or to over the top. My sweet spot with P135 is 10-15 MCG. **Strength** - I give a 9 as I do find this pretty strong **Length of Effects** - I get about 4 solid hours out of it with more subtle effects till around 6 hours **Tenacity** - I would say this definitely is more aggressive and attacks people **Effectiveness & Consistency** - The respect and authority aspect is very consistent. Now there is some type of brain glitch that is random like I sometimes forget where I am and see things move. Also once in a while I get a sexual urge. These effects are very random. **Diffusion/Sillage** - This thing I give an 8 and diffuses pretty fast. The mone cloud solo was 6-7 feet. I really had fun with this molecule and as always I thank Androtics for this as a freebie and just being a great company. ---
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I recently did a report on P135 and realize and it may just be me, but I swear it increases my testosterone levels. I had a bad accident at the end of August and still have some 10MG Vicodin left and the other day I was in a lot of pain so I took one. Normally with Pain pills it makes me soft and kind of beta and sometimes where I don’t get as hard an errection and sometimes I can’t even get off during sex and it is also real hard on my prostate. With the P135 with 10MCG I didn’t have this at all. It seemed to balanced the side of the pain medication I hate out. So in the name of science the next day I took 2 10MG Vicodin even though I wasn’t in pain and put on P135 again. I got the same results and I felt confident and like my testosterone levels were still up and I felt a high sex drive for taking pain medication. Normally with pain pills my sex drive goes to almost zero. This was the first time that I really felt a molecule and external source like this had an effect on my hormone levels. So this is a real possibility here and it could be your chemistry to who knows. ---
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**P135** test _Product_ Togo P135 5 mcg stealth **Day 1** _5 mcg_ So I start by doing 1 spray on the left side of my neck. I wait about 10 minutes looking for effects. I’m already in a chill relaxed mood so I’m thinking the p135 increased the relaxation a bit. I’m finding myself just easing in to my recliner with no care in the world. After about 10 minutes of sitting and waiting for effects I start to get this sick feeling in my stomach - not sure if it’s related to the p135.. _10 mcg_ I then add another spray to right side of neck and head out for some errands. After about 5 minutes slight pull in my head like the onset of a headache. I’m noticing I’m feeling a bit nonchalant. And whenever this happiness it seems to suggest that something is causing an anti-anxiety effect in me. When I arrived at my child’s school I felt super confident walking around like no tension or nervousness whatsoever, but not overly confident. One of the teachers seemed to respond well, a black gal, she smiled and looked at me which she usually never does. I get back home and realize I’ve had this urgency to get things done and be productive, swiftly. _15 mcg_ So I add another spray p135, this time to Adam’s apple. I’m feeling an energy boost slightly with also a sense of mental clarity. I feel like I have focus and determination and nothing can stop me. I feel like it’s easy to get ‘stuck’ on something, like just staring off into the ether.. I can’t put my finger on it but this Molecule seems to make me feel sick and slight headache.. very strange. _20 mcg_ So maybe only 10 minutes after the last spray I spray 1 more spray p135. After several minutes I’m not noticing much of a change. The feeling I’m having is generally a calm one, just focused and calm, no worries or thoughts or stressors, even though i feel a slight stomach/head ache I’m still just chill about it. It seems that it’s creating a calm around me too as my child seems really calm too. P135 seems to close my peripheral view as I’m not concerned or paying attention to them. **Conclusion** I thought this Molecule was quite interesting. It seems like a good relaxing Molecule, something to just chill with, or even get some not-so-fun tasks done, because it makes getting things done a breeze. People seem friendly like this invokes sociableness. It definitely makes me stand upright and speak straightforward. Makes me a little spacey too and slight bodily aches. 5 mcg seemed too little, 20 mcg too much. People only seemed affected from about 10 ft max. I give this Molecule a 7/10.