# Putative Pheromone P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [April 17, 2014, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719 "2014-04-17T10:05:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719/21 "2016-02-24T15:25:31Z")
I have not heard anyone describe similar experiences, but on multiple occasions when I wore P83 solo (2-3 sprays @ 15mcg) I have had women tell me I looked weak in a caring “Is everything ok with you?” sort of way. Not the vibe I want to give off, which is why I never wear it alone anymore. I do like the positive effects though. Women seem to be much less apprehensive of physical escalation, so you can move things forward at a breakneck pace. I have crashed badly a few times when I wasn’t wearing it, but tried to escalate as if I was. It is one of the [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) with the most noticable effects in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719/22 "2016-02-25T16:52:07Z")
IME the “Is everything OK?” thing is a common physical icebreaker/escalator with women. It gives yo the opportunity to get much closer and respond to their “care”/attention without being demonstrably/overtly sexual - initially anyway. Its up to you to take your escalation and interaction further from that point. So its not an undesirable thing at all. 😉 But I wouldn’t be wearing just [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) for that - I’d have it backing-up a more sexual product/mix. ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719/23 "2014-06-16T14:11:22Z")
Bartender ass rubbing Wearing: [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1 spray P83 20mcg Saturday went into a local bar mid afternoon to catch the game on TV and have a brew. Meeting a buddy here in about an hour. Blonde, slender, sexy bartender sees me and comes down the bar to serve me. They have like 30 tap beers here so I ask her for a recommendation. SHe asks me a few questions about the types of beer I like then starts twirling her hair like crazy as she is standing there. I decide on a beer and she turns 180 and walks 5 feet over to the taps and starts pouring. As she walks over there she runs her hand down the back of her short shorts like 3 times. Then while she is pouring my beer she has her off hand tucked into the back pocket of her shorts. She brings me the beer and walks away again running both her hands down the back of her shorts, like she is smoothing the fabric, but she is doing it in a sexy way (Like I would do it if it were me running my hands down her butt 😉 ) She kept this up every time she paraded in front of me. It was like an ass check. Left cheek…check. Right cheek…check… Hahaha The main take away here is that the Ammo/P83 combo was making her very chatty, flirty, and causing her to initiate several body displays to me, including the running of her hands down her butt to accentuate one of her many assets… ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2014, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719/24 "2014-05-17T10:05:07Z")
**[Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) P83** [Experimone\*\*?\*\*](https://a314.com/)[Putative](https://a314.com/) Pheromone P83 **Check it out in store here:** [Putative P83 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Available in all dosages between 625 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray. **Ideal Dosages:** 10-50 mcg will be more lively and effective 5-6 sprays of 6mcg are recommended **Observed P83 Effects:** chatty, sexy, touchy, sensual, steering, giggly, fun, aloofness, more touching, sexy talk, interested, touchy-feely, NSFW, spontaneity **Interesting Combos** - **7 sprays of p83 (10mcg/spray) + 2 Sprays TUTH = [My GF got very excited](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-in-depth-phero-results/9226/7)** - **P74 + IS + P83 at about 12.5 mg each = [Slight Alpha Feel](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-is-p83/10522/1)** - **P83 3 sprays + 4 sprays IH-togo = [Jovial and Playful](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-curious-adventures-of-one-chic/8145/63)** - **25 mcg of p83 and 2 sprays IH = [Sexual with flirting](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-power-of-p96-vs-p83/12163/4)** - **2 sprays Ammo 2X and 2 sprays P83 10mcg = [Attention getter](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-head-turner/14136/1)** - “P83 @ 20mcg& Beta Androstenol @25-100mcg. Just wow!” [bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer) - 1-2 sprays IH , 1-2 of Instant Shine , 2.5 mcg of P75 or TUTH , 25 mcg of P83. P103 could play ball on this team …] Add additional sprays of Shine, TUTH , P83 or IH to steer (cautiously) for effect. Should produce different flavors of sexually suggestive dis-inhibition. Decreased space, more touching, maybe deeper bonding and sexy talk, frank arousal, making out, nudity, verbal nudity, baby making, etc. - “I’ve had particularly good results using mx297 and p83.” millwark - “If you are trying to get close to someone in a 1 on 1 setting go with some Ammo, IH and p83.” millwark - “P83 and TAC are AMAZING together - especially in intimate situations. 30mcg of each and i’m literally smiling for a week.” – classicalflower - “Younger women tend to do the follow thing when you combine P83 with any None product.” - KIMBA - _Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread!_ **Real User Feedback:** > [@](#): > > A nice blue bottle came with my last order. It’s 7.5mcg per spray. > > …I put on 4 sprays to the neck and went to a club. It smelled good. The club was almost empty when we arrived ( me and my friend), so we got ourselves a beer and then another one. We talked as there was nothing going on yet. > > I think I felt some self-effects. **A little more confident and definitelly relaxed.** > > Then the party started. I noticed a pretty redhead dancing alone at the edge of the dancefloor. A few seconds of hesitation, and afterwards I was in a “go get her” set of mind. This happens to me sometimes. I like it. It just doesn’t happen too often ( pheros help tremendously). We started dancing and talking. After, we bought a beer. > > I could tell that she’s interested. We danced some more and started to make out. No girl has ever kissed me like that before. Later, my friend wanted to go home, so we did. I told the girl that I had to go. She just smilled and punched me lightly. That’s it. There was no “call me”. We just had fun. > > - [Kocur](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-cant-figure-it-out/9461/1) > [@](#): > > **P83, Neroli sent. 25 mcg** > > **Enviroment tested in:** Club > > **Effects to others:** **Drunk dude treating me like i am Elvis or something following me everywhere mess up my game… Black female (and very hot by the way) Major hit, hell biggest hit i have had to date. She grabbed my duster collar and then planted a wet kiss on me.** then turned walk away with the over the shoulder gaze… This was when the punk seriously needed to disappear really was interfering in my game he wouldn’t leave and and just wouldn’t shut up. > > - [jimmerwi42](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-testing/9259/6) > [@](#): > > Two to three sprays, I normally apply it on the adam’s apple and on the sides of the neck, sometimes back of the neck. The self effects last for a couple of hours for me, I can say three to four. Even though from what I heard here that P83 doesn’t contain -none, **I felt a bit aggressive in a playful way when having sex.** > > - [Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-make-you-hot/9554/14) > [@](#): > > P83 when I apply it, **keeps me thinking about sex all day,** so I guess if i smell it on a woman will arouse me quickly. > > - [Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-make-you-hot/9554/2) > [@](#): > > after I apply the P83, for about the first 20 minuets **I feel a power I cannot explain** and feel almost as if I am mentaly impaired. I lose concentration, experiance mind wondering, and do not think straight or should I say think normally. Driving is not advised for the first 15 or 20 minuets. > > - [plidn1@aol.com](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-cant-figure-it-out/9461/2) > [@](#): > > Im finding **p83 makes me more flirty, horny and direct.** …wonder if it could make her a little naughty too. > > - [flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-phoenix-force-journal/7145/204) > [@](#): > > **P83 > Application point: hair > 2 or 3 sprays at 7.5 mcg per sprays** > > This works a little weird for me. At 15 or 22.5 mcg , **people get confused or have dihl , but aren’t scared running.** I need to specify that dihl or confusion almost never happens to me with any other product. > > - [mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-testing-p74-p93-p83/10554/1) > [@](#): > > The sense of urgency you get from P83 can easily work as a negative. I now call it **Instant Cattle Prod.** If somebody wants to do something, 25mcg is like sticking a scorching hot brand to them. Sometimes this means that a small thing turns into a huge argument followed by “I dont know why that bothered me so much.” Thats different from androstenone which implies that youre willing to kick someones arse if they get out of line. > … > Tater wore **50mcg of P83.** > > Also noticed that **100mcg can take a low-grade unconfessed attraction and turn it into irritation. It created tension but it came out as annoyance. I think you need to be in the right environment for that tension to work for you.** > > - [MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/641) > [@](#): > > **Day 1:** I tested P83 today, **1 spray at 12.5 mcg** applied to neck. **I noticed very open sexual affects on women.** I was sitting in class and the girl next to me kept opening her legs wide! I also got many stares too. **But the only negative affect (for me) was that guys got way too close, they leaned on my shoulder!** … > > Girls would talk to me like usual but the guys wouldn’t shut up! The conversations weren’t deep but the quantity was there. 3 hours later I decided to spray again on my neck. 1 spray. I didn’t notice any different reactions sexually but I did socially. The atmosphere was very carefree, alot of laughing and playing around. Another thing I noticed is that p83 isn’t age dependent like none. I wore it and attracted older women (teachers) and classmates too. More tests on the way! > > - [Dominic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/test-results-for-p83/10664/1) > [@](#): > > Iv been using **p83 at 12.5** in a lot of my mixes lately but a lower dose could be better. \*\*High doses were a disaster…\*\*too much i think. > > I prefer to make p83 a minor element of a mix. > > - [flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/testing-stephens-icm-mix/10756/5) > [@](#): > > I sprayed **20mcg worth of P83** on (to chest and wrists) tonight just to test the **self-effects.** A few minutes after huffing it from my chest I started to get an **excited but warm and tingly feeling in my stomach.** It reminds of the **feeling I’d get when my crush would glance my way with a smile, giving me butterflies and making my entire day.** > > - [Karmiel](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-gives-me-butterflies/10802/1) > [@](#): > > I just have not had the results with P83 y’all are seeing. **It makes me bitchy, it makes other women around me nasty bitchy.** I don’t get it! > > I’ve only been using one 12.5mcg spray… Maybe I need more? **I’ve worn it with either IS/B or MX135 and IS.** > > - [Ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spacy-erotic-fun/10862/9) > [@](#): > > I tried mostly P83 this week and I tried to anchor it. I think it does something for me. But I cannot figure it out. **Most of the time while wearing it I was communicative. I just wanted to talk.** I did not get any specific hits or super unusual things happened. But I did not expect them. > > - [Denied](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-denied-journal/12571/20) > [@](#): > > personally, I find p83 dosage a bit tricky…15mcg total [1 12.5mcg to go and quarter spray residue of a to go] was all I could handle before OD 'ing… **it seems arousing from 10mcg upwards to 25mcg,** but my body chemistry only allows for the lower spectrums. > > - [mahalo silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-compilation-including-sexual-erotic-effects/5789/53) > [@](#): > > P83 I sprayed the same as above. I did notice some women seemed to walk by me often, that normally would not have. **I was told I seemed to be mellower and more approachable.** > > - [stevew](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-post-on-p74-p83-mx222/13801/1) > [@](#): > > **P83 is sexual in nature, for me it seems to help people get past there inhibitions. It increases flirtiness mainly in women.** Men tend to be more forward. This could be in response to the self effects it has for me, I feel sultry and seductive and perhaps its comes through more clear when I wear it. > > - [tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vavoom/14045/15) > [@](#): > > So… What could go wrong? I went on kind of a blind date wearing **20mcg P83.** I had never met this woman. We had only exchanged emails. I went to the appointed location, sprayed on the P83 and in a few minutes after seeing a couple of ugly women walk by, I paniced and left. I ran away before she arrived. This is TOTALLY not me. I can’t believe I did that. **P83 seems to unleash inhibitions, and in this case I just acted rashly on the anxieties I was feeling.** > > - [Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx203-and-p83/14219/4) ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2014, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719/25 "2014-05-17T10:05:07Z")
**[Putative Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) P83** [Experimone\*\*?\*\*](https://a314.com/)[Putative](https://a314.com/) Pheromone P83 **Check it out in store here:** [Putative P83 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Available in all dosages between 625 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray. **Ideal Dosages:** 10-50 mcg will be more lively and effective 5-6 sprays of 6mcg are recommended **Observed P83 Effects:** chatty, sexy, touchy, sensual, steering, giggly, fun, aloofness, more touching, sexy talk, interested, touchy-feely, NSFW, spontaneity **Interesting Combos** - “P83 @ 20mcg& Beta Androstenol @25-100mcg. Just wow!” [bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer) - 1-2 sprays IH , 1-2 of Instant Shine , 2.5 mcg of P75 or TUTH , 25 mcg of P83. P103 could play ball on this team …] Add additional sprays of Shine, TUTH , P83 or IH to steer (cautiously) for effect. Should produce different flavors of sexually suggestive dis-inhibition. Decreased space, more touching, maybe deeper bonding and sexy talk, frank arousal, making out, nudity, verbal nudity, baby making, etc. - “I’ve had particularly good results using mx297 and p83.” millwark - “If you are trying to get close to someone in a 1 on 1 setting go with some Ammo, IH and p83.” millwark - “P83 and TAC are AMAZING together - especially in intimate situations. 30mcg of each and i’m literally smiling for a week.” – classicalflower - “Younger women tend to do the follow thing when you combine P83 with any None product.” - KIMBA - _Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread!_ **Real User Feedback:** > [@](#): > > A nice blue bottle came with my last order. It’s 7.5mcg per spray. > > …I put on 4 sprays to the neck and went to a club. It smelled good. The club was almost empty when we arrived ( me and my friend), so we got ourselves a beer and then another one. We talked as there was nothing going on yet. > > I think I felt some self-effects. **A little more confident and definitelly relaxed.** > > Then the party started. I noticed a pretty redhead dancing alone at the edge of the dancefloor. A few seconds of hesitation, and afterwards I was in a “go get her” set of mind. This happens to me sometimes. I like it. It just doesn’t happen too often ( pheros help tremendously). We started dancing and talking. After, we bought a beer. > > I could tell that she’s interested. We danced some more and started to make out. No girl has ever kissed me like that before. Later, my friend wanted to go home, so we did. I told the girl that I had to go. She just smilled and punched me lightly. That’s it. There was no “call me”. We just had fun. > > - [Kocur](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-cant-figure-it-out/9461/1) > [@](#): > > After reading and doing alot of P83 testing, I feel that P83 has that “be close to me and follow me” vibe. [chress93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-follow-me/56676/1) > [@](#): > > Mostly the only negatives from P83 are that you get nothing - This is most likely when its worn in situations where getting physical and escalating is inappropriate or unsuitable - typically at work or in polite/formal situations. Simply, don’t use P83 where you can’t escalate, escalate and escalate! > > P83 is one of the pheros that sits in a class of its own and there is no direct alternative.P83 is in MX353 at a fairly healthy dose and while back, John confirmed it is in A314 as a steering molecule and as P83 actually appears in a majority of the released MX formulas, I reckon it could well be in several more consumer products. > [Mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-p83-like-or-similar-to/61431/4) > [@](#): > > I wore 2 sprays of P83 (@ 7.5 mcg w/ light necroli) on my arms with [other products]. P83 seemed to intensify the responses. People got closer and almost all touched my arm or shoulder. One young lady with fully dilated pupils kept telling me about her boyfriend. I made a comment about the weather and she brought it back to her BF. A guy at the event kept following me around which has never happened before. I’m obviously not listing all of the reactions, but P83 is what they say it is. I tried wearing P83 alone and it just made me relax to the point that I didn’t really care about things. My fine motor skills were off too. I tested P83 at 4 sprays alone. Definitely better when combined - curioustiger > [@](#): > > I normally just talk with people I think will buy my product but today, every singel person who passed spoke with, NY’er, tourist, didn’t matter…i fellt giggly and fun and like I could talk with anyone. I think the p83 really gave me a glow that affected others in a very positive way. People were more than comfortable with me. So far p83 i think is “I’ll talk to you” in a bottle..or “typsy in a bottle” …, > P83 will take a vibe, good or bad and amplify it. It’ll also lower inhibitions and you’ll see people and yourself doing some weird stuff that they normally never would and copy others just cause it looks cool and they have the slightest desire to try it.However, I find P83 helps me pull off some vibes better due to just going with what I feel. --Wyatt > [@](#): > > P83 complements most pheros you use it with very well > [mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster) > [@](#): > > P83 has a strong none-like aggressive side to it. It created a lot of intimidation and agitation when I used it socially…[sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mind-bending-sex/3686/10) > [@](#): > > I have noticed that P83 gives people that what ever is on their mind they say or do [tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz) > [@](#): > > P83 is still a superb secondary for its physicality/space closing/disinhibiting properties for the above but its not any kind of moderator/softener ![mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster) > [@](#): > > An impression of slightly bold and aloof indifferent confidence. It stimulates a sensuous or sexual thought process as opposed to raw arousal. This seems to be a substance for men and women who are, or want to be, sexually active. Very chatty, not unlike ANOL . monesmadedoit > [@](#): > > P83 I feel is best represented by its blatant inhibition, frontal lobe activity some mechanism; disrupting judgement and potentiating well a truth serum I’ve devised. You see; I find preference in people with nothing to hide, and seek hasty discovery those of ill characters. It appears to intensify emotions and allows once self sustained barriers to dissolve; be it space, whats on the targets mind; say > [bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer) > [@](#): > > I do feel quite sensual when I wear P83, or more open and comfortable to be touched, increases the sensitivity of my bodily senses as well, every touch, sound etc.. feels stimulating. > [still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-corrupting-a-modest-woman/56048/10) > [@](#): > > P83 is a sort of amplifier for me as it makes people act more towards their feelings. If they feel I’m alpha when I’m wearing A314 , they’re more likely to show respect. I’ve also noticed a lot of shit testing with A314 +p83. It’s sort of a compliment and goes well with almost all products and combos. Hope that helps.[lowrider639](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lowrider639) > [@](#): > > P83 is a Fun One… I’ve had afew Goto Bottle of it Myself (like 3)… The Crush Type Effect is Prominent Along with Linger Thoughts… I ALWAYS Wear the Same Cologne when I Test… And I’ve Found that After Just Being Around P83 Afew Times it’s STILL Possible to Create the Effect… It Seems the Familiar Scent Brings Thoughts of the Priors Exposure to the Forefront… Not as Strong Mind You but Even Days or Weeks After Exposure I’ve Noticed this… This MEANS You Don’t have to Wear it ALL the Time, Only when You Want the Full Effect ofP83…[Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-trials/54533/4) > [@](#): > > Overall my observation was that p83 made me and people around me calm, interested in me, a little talkative and most importantly stuck on one thought (the man in the meeting, the man in the kitchen, the resource manager woman and my wife).[Experimator](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-test-and-observations/29496/1) > [@](#): > > p83 is not a sexy pheromone unless you steer it that way but I think it would pair up nicely with is/a or is/b.To me, p83 is more of a touchy-feely phero > [msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-experiences-question/19286/2) > [@](#): > > At low doses P83 probably only effects old people, or at least old men because my sister wasn’t acting any different.P83 also affects rats. I’ve yet to see it’s affects on any other animals, but my dog seems like his normal self, so I guess that rules out dogs for now.Can’t wait to try P83 out during the holidays! It worked great on my family vacation (when my family usually fights -\_-). So I’m hoping to get a fun time this year during the whole families annual christmas parties. It’s one of those parties where you go for the grandparent and the kids haha… this should be interesting. > [happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-rat-magnet-please-no-flaming-of-rats-thanks/34955/1) > [@](#): > > I normally just talk with people I think will buy my product but today, every singel person who passed spoke with, NY’er, tourist, didn’t matter…i fellt giggly and fun and like I could talk with anyone. I think the p83 really gave me a glow that affected others in a very positive way. People were more than comfortable with me. So far p83 i think is “I’ll talk to you” in a bottle..or “typsy in a bottle” … > [happytappin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2nd-p83-report/39481/1) > [@](#): > > P83 is kind of naughty… > [classicalflower] > ([P83: what dosage per spray should I order, and what mixes well with it? - #6 by classicalflower](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83/56043/6)) > [@](#): > > And something inhibits hr from following him around because she is attracted on some level. Younger women ten to do the follow thing when you combine P83 with any None product. > [KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-follow-me/56676/4) > [@](#): > > 2 spray mx297 > 25mcg Bnol > 20mcg P83 > 5% strength NPA/cologne mix > > Where: Greek restaurant, outside patio bar, windy and sunny, 90 degrees > > Tried this mix for the first time. I have read that it is a sure fire winner. > > Summary, I liked this mix a lot, its very sexy, and it smelled great. It was windy so i applied this mix on sides of neck, lower down around my collar. I was surprised how fast it hit the ladies. I like that. I hate when I put on mones and nothing happens. I get impatient sometimes. Sometimes it just takes some time for dem mones to spread out. > > I backed it up with my body language. I was feeling good, looking good, and I was not shy about checking out the ladies in their sundresses..Very confident vibe. Sort of rock star self effects. Very cool. - > [CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460) > [@](#): > > P83 is one of my all time favorite pheros. Certainly in my top 5. I like it because sometimes the phero signature you are laying out there can cause confusion in people around you, and P83 is like the underlying message to them that “It’s OK to act on your feelings.” Like maybe you are talking to a woman you have known for a while that you want to take it to the next level, so you wear a more sexually overt mix around her. Lets say everything is going well, you are being congruent, and she is “feeling” your sexual mix, but is confused because she hasnt felt this before about you. The P83 I believe helps her over that hurdle and gets her to accept and act on her new feelings. - > [CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putative-pheromone-p83/61719.md?page=1)