# Putatives: two months in with p83 and p74, info on what each does is sketchy

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 13, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622 "2007-11-13T14:23:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![happytolive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@happytolive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happytolive)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/1 "2007-11-13T14:23:00Z")

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Hey all,  
Well i guess I’ve been using pheromones for about 2 months now. They definetely work! I have a short log on these forums but I am too lazy to document all my hits (that would be alot of typing). Anyways, I have both p83 and p74. I am reading about p93 right now which sounds pretty good. The thing with putatives is that the information out about them is well…sketchy to say the least. It seems that there isn’t a solid idea of what each one does. I don’t really seem to get hits from p83. Sure, I can feel the self effects, it gives me an “intense” sort of feeling, but it smells liike bugspray or window cleaner. I experimented with p74 when I very first started using pheromones and didn’t know what the heck I was doing 😃 ! I used 3/4 of the togo bottle in about 4 days. I only have a little bit left but will test it out again this week.

So what exactly is the general consensus on the putatives? It appears to be:

P74 - cool guy/boyfriend effect  
P83 - intensity/sexual overtone?  
P93 - ?  
Pxx - ?

In your experience, what putatives go well with what other products? P74 + A314? P74 + [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)?

Post your feelings on the different putatives and what they have done for you.

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/2 "2007-11-13T15:28:17Z")

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Hello Happytolive!!!  
I tried some putatives in mixes with other Androtics products. It was quite a fun and interesting doing it. You can see all the results of my tests on this post

> [@My Tests](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-tests/5979):
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> Hello to Everybody!!! Lately I’m not posting much (nearly nothing) for lack of time… But I read you all everyday!!! You’re all so GREAT!!! So, here’s the results of my tests. First of all, my babies are: Instant Headache (aka Ammo) - Regular strenght Instant Shine - Regular strenght Instant Openess - Regular strenght P74 - 2.5 mcg P93 - 2.5 mcg TAH - 2.5 mcg The first three are from my first order and the next three ones are from my second order. Seen that I already reviewed the first th…

In next days I’m going to update it with some new “researches”.

Have good time!!!

See ya

franz

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/3 "2007-11-13T16:00:58Z")

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Hello there Mr Happyolive 😃

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> Well i guess I’ve been using pheromones for about 2 months now. They definetely work! I have a short log on these forums but I am too lazy to document all my hits (that would be alot of typing).

The products you have are test products from the advanced section. You need to report on them in a format simular to this one…

> [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297):
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> (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product a…

Putatives are tough to test and you need experience to get them right so dont feel bad for not being able to grasp them right away. Keep in mind this post by Jasmin as well. You have admin clearance at this time as long as you report on the advanced you get. [Special Orders Not Accepted...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/special-orders-not-accepted/4325)

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> So what exactly is the general consensus on the putatives? It appears to be:
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> P74 - cool guy/boyfriend effect  
> P83 - intensity/sexual overtone?  
> P93 - ?  
> Pxx - ?
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> In your experience, what putatives go well with what other products? P74 + A314? P74 + Instant Female Magic?
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> Post your feelings on the different putatives and what they have done for you.

OK this is where Jasmins quandary begins. They need feedback on what these products do. Good or Bad. Some of them may not even be mones and its our job to test them and report the effects if any. This is why we get them so cheap.

Your reaction may be different to a putative then mine because of enviroment, sex, age ect. Keep this in mind when you test them and just report the reactions and effects that you feel. Dont worry about what anyone else is getting from them.

I am glad Happy brought this subject up because I often get PM’s about advanced products from new people.

**Just want to make this clear to new people just joining our mone adventure here.**

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**Putatives are test products that may or may not be pheromones. Information posted about them in the forum is accumilated and used by Androtics to make new consumer products. Do not buy a putative because one person says “this is what it does” Look for a pattern of reactions in numorous testers reports and Journals. The pattern will help you understand the putatives more.**

**If you are interested in proven products that work or are not interested in testing and providing feedback. \*\*\*\* Please purchase from the consumer section only as per Jasmins request in her update below.**

**Thanks Tisha**

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/4 "2007-11-13T16:13:28Z")

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Hello Tisha,  
thank you for all those information. Just a question (maybe I’m OT), it’s ok, as I reported my tests (you can see the link in the post above). Thank you again for the precious advice in your posts!!!

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/5 "2007-11-13T16:25:51Z")

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Yes I saw them Runner and gave you reps.

My comments are not directed at you or at Happyolive. Its for all the new people here that are buying products.

Alot of the experienced testers such as myself, Tater, Inkling, Steveo and more have all held back from ordering so the new people who wanted the chance to order and test the products could and because we wanted to let Jas catch her breath.

The new persons opinion is just as important to us as ours is to you.

How you felt, the effects you noticed, how much you used, where you applied. This is what helps us all figure out the good stuff from the bad stuff.

If no one feels like reporting, its not really fair to us or Androtics.

Tish

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/6 "2007-11-13T16:32:56Z")

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Thank you so much Tisha for the rep points! I really share your point of view. Thank you again for your (yours, Mad Tater’s, SteveO and the other great guys’) extremely interesting and useful posts, I really learned much from them all :-)!!!

Ciao  
Franz

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**Author:** ![happytolive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@happytolive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happytolive)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/putatives-two-months-in-with-p83-and-p74-info-on-what-each-does-is-sketchy/6622/7 "2007-11-13T21:40:07Z")

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Well Tisha…I have some good news for you then because today I wore 1 drop of A314 _2 sprays of P74_ and 3 sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and I got some pretty blatant hits. I’m still kind of in shocked at how direct my hits were:  
One girl that I have had nothing but a few conversations with (I don’t even know her name) was trying to get my attention as I walked into the room. I wasn’t really trying to talk to her and she said “where are you going baby” 😕 . She is NOT the kind of girl who would do this. She is the kind of girl who sits quietly in the corner of the classroom and never says a word. She is no shape or form a flirt, nor do I find her attractive in any way. After she called me baby I looked up at her in shock (I couldn’t believe it!) and she had the most perplexed look on her face like “what did I just say?”! I kid you not, it seemed like every other woman I came across was trying to get my attention. One of my young (25ish) teachers that I had last year saw me and demanded to know why I don’t say hi to her when I see her. The thing is I always do, this time I just happened to walk by without noticing her. Another girl that I have never talked to came up to me and was talking to me like we are buddies. She tried to help me find my way around the building. Later on, I saw my ex-GF and she was in the best mood I have seen her in since a VERY long time! She kept on touching me and hugging me. She is usually in a pissy mood. Wow this stuff works! Will P74 be coming back into stock? I never had these kind of results before I added P74 to this mix.
