# Question about Age **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245 "2009-10-13T01:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/1 "2009-10-13T01:25:36Z")
Hey, I’m a 17 year old guy, just got into this [pheromone](https://a314.com/) thing, needless to say I’ve got a lot of questions. I’m still a senior in highschool and I was told to use IG to appear manlier to girls while I’m in school, but something kind of bothers me. The description of IG says "for younger men who want to seem older than their years. " The one thing I’m worried about is that maybe a teacher might become interested. That always ends badly, and totally not my intention, I just want to seem more attractive to girls around my age. I’m also curious about AMMO. It sounds useful, but a little overbearing for subtle uses during classes. Is that a fair assumption? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/2 "2009-10-13T02:24:48Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Hey, > > I’m a 17 year old guy, just got into this pheromone thing, needless to say I’ve got a lot of questions. I’m still a senior in highschool and I was told to use IG to appear manlier to girls while I’m in school, but something kind of bothers me. The description of IG says "for younger men who want to seem older than their years. " The one thing I’m worried about is that maybe a teacher might become interested. That always ends badly, and totally not my intention, I just want to seem more attractive to girls around my age. > > I’m also curious about AMMO. It sounds useful, but a little overbearing for subtle uses during classes. Is that a fair assumption? Actually, there are a lot of younger guys on here who use Ammo with great success. Trust me when I say that [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) works VERY well on younger women. You may get some interest from the teachers but more in the sense of, ‘wow, that kid’s really got his stuff together.’ Admiration. Girls your age however, seem to really like IG when paired with things like Instant Openness and Instant Shine. Younger women really seem to be attracted to the primary ingredient in Instant Openness. I’d suggest going with the Instant Gentleman and maybe some Instant Openness and/or Instant Shine. It can help to open a lot of doors. Just remember however that the pheros only do so much. They can make you more attractive but it is really up to you to do most of the work. Good luck! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/3 "2009-10-13T02:35:57Z")
Hehe, thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, I know, you’re not the first person to tell me Pheros don’t do all the work, and I’m cool with that. I’m pretty confident and likable in my own right, I just need a little umph. I’m curious, whats the difference between AMMO and TUTH? How effective is IG on its own? I don’t want to mix things yet until I’m sure about what each does on their own, is that a good approach? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/4 "2009-10-13T02:41:16Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Hehe, thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, I know, you’re not the first person to tell me Pheros don’t do all the work, and I’m cool with that. I’m pretty confident and likable in my own right, I just need a little umph. > > I’m curious, whats the difference between AMMO and TUTH? > And, how effective is IG on its own? > I don’t want to mix things yet until I’m sure about what each does on their own, is that a good approach? Sounds like a great approach! Ammo is basically 3 different compounds (with a small amounts of ‘steering’ pheros) balanced to provide attraction as well as as good social vibe that isn’t too sexual (although it can be turned that way). Good for a lot of different situations Turn Up The Heat is 2.5mcg of androstenone which is the main pheromone for sexual attraction. It is very situation specific (especially when used by itelf). Best left for clubs, bars and the bedroom. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is very effective on its own. Especially if you only use a couple of sprays. It can be a bit ‘distancing’ on its own when too much is worn because people see you as such a VIP that they don’t want to bother you which is why a lot of people wear it with IO and IS to make you more approachable while wearing it. Just wearing a few sprays and being outgoing and people will be very happy to see you. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/5 "2009-10-13T02:43:13Z")
2 More questions: What if its not new girls I’m trying to meet, but current friends I want to go farther with. Would the [IG](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) / [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) mix still work? I’ve read Snook’s guide, and he recomended a mixture of 3x Instant shine 2x [CTTM2](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) 1x Instant female magic for Highschoolers, but he doesn’t really explain the effects or goals with the mix. Any speculations? btw, it sounds like IS is a middle ground of IO and IG… ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/6 "2009-10-13T02:49:28Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > 2 More questions: > > What if its not new girls I’m trying to meet, but current friends I want to go farther with. Would the [IG](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) / [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) mix still work? > > I’ve read Snook’s guide, and he recomended a mixture of 3x Instant shine 2x [CTTM2](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) 1x Instant female magic for Highschoolers, but he doesn’t really explain the effects or goals with the mix. Any speculations? Oh yeah. The combo above will still work very well. It will help them to see you in a different light than they have before. (I know you’ve read this but a lot depends on how you interact with them while wearing the pheros to push you out of ‘friend zone’). IFM is out of stock and doesn’t look to be getting back anytime soon but the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and CTTM2 (basically CTTM2 is a 50/50 blend of the main ingredient in IO and the main ingredient in IH) both work well if you would want to combine it with the IG. Girls your age seem to love alpha-androstenol (the primary ingredient in IO) so IO or CTTM2 would work well. Instant Shine is actually a bit different than IO and IG. It is primarily designed to make people feel good. A fun, upbeat, happy feeling that also seems to be attractive to the opposite sex but in a non-threatening way. They see the wearer as being almost magnetic. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/7 "2009-10-13T02:53:51Z")
Thank you soooo much Snoopy 🙂 This is a lot of useful information ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/8 "2009-10-13T02:56:51Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Thank you soooo much Snoopy 🙂 This is a lot of useful information Glad I could help. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/9 "2009-10-13T03:04:40Z")
Just as clarification: IShine + CTTM2 + IG = Good for teen girls (specific effect?) IO + IG = Balance for Attention and approachability IShine =/= IO and IG; because IShine is more of a ‘just have fun’ sort of thing. AMMO = versitile ///////////// TUTH = situation specific ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/10 "2009-10-13T03:23:14Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Hey, > > I’m a 17 year old guy, just got into this pheromone thing, needless to say I’ve got a lot of questions. I’m still a senior in highschool and I was told to use IG to appear manlier to girls while I’m in school, but something kind of bothers me. The description of IG says \*"for younger men who want to seem older than their years. " \*The one thing I’m worried about is that maybe a teacher might become interested. That always ends badly, and totally not my intention, I just want to seem more attractive to girls around my age. > > I’m also curious about AMMO. It sounds useful, but a little overbearing for subtle uses during classes. Is that a fair assumption? Awesome! I am also a 17 year old senior too so we can definately relate to each other with this. I have always had a doubt with pheromones working for me untill my first pheromone test and it is seriously amazing!!! This is my first pheromone test using [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2x!!! Two shots on my neck before school and 1 shot on my neck in the middle of the school day. Everything about this is completely true in the fullest detail that I can remember. I tried this out last friday. One thing is I have really severe social anxieties so if I test something out I know it is working. The beginning of the day started out slow and I thought “damn this isn’t working” the freshman on the bus to school kept giving staring at me when I would look away (I saw her in the reflecton of the bus window and the rearview mirror) but I thought it was coincidence. When I walked into school I was a little depressed because I thought I did this for nothing… untill I got into my first class. During school I was the center of social circles for every class. All of these kids that I had constant awkward moments with had opened up to me and I broke the ice with them. I felt like a new positive person who people actually cared to talk to. This is the best part!!! After school when I got on the bus this girl that I had literally never talked to (I walk to my house with her every day) asked some kid what my name was in an exited whispery voice (she did this because I had my headphones on and she thought I couldn’t hear her) I looked over to her and I said “Tyler”. She introduced herself and we started talking from there. I know that IO is a friendly pheromone but I noticed that her pupils were dialated and she kept doing a quick stare as I was talking to her like she was interested. We were sitting on different seats (hers across from mine) and she moved over to my seat to talk! She appeared very nervous to talk to me but open. When we got off the bus she said "wow this is wierd I am the quiet one in class and I am just talking like crazy to you I never do this. After that we had to go to where our houses were she smiled then she went the direction of her house. This NEVER happens to me to me untill that day. This is definately something that I will be using everyday. I would have to thank pheromones and the wonderful people from Androtics Direct for doing this for me!!! I HOPE you have the same experience with pheromones as I did! I haven’t used ammo yet because it is out of stock so I getting Turn Up the Heat along with Instant Honesty and Spaceland 🙂 I recommend you use Instant Openness first especially for high school students like us 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/11 "2009-10-13T03:29:19Z")
HAHA! Thats great to hear man. Zodiac goin for the young ones 🙂 I’m really looking forward to this. My first 2 Pheros are definately going to be IO and IG, they sound like the best for what I want to accomplish. Be cautious of that Spaceland stuff, I hear its kinda trippy… ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/12 "2009-10-13T13:34:46Z")
yep 🙂 I’m off of school so I can’t test it today but I am really exited for tomorrow thats also when my order comes in for IH 😃 - Spaceland & Turn Up the Heat ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/13 "2009-10-13T14:02:05Z")
Glad to hear you noticed it working for you! Look forward to hearing more reports. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/14 "2009-10-13T20:17:04Z")
Zodiac, I too definately want to hear about how your tests go, and I could do the same when I get mine in. We could probably help one another out in this busines :-p ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-age/33245/15 "2009-10-14T00:23:38Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Zodiac, I too definately want to hear about how your tests go, and I could do the same when I get mine in. We could probably help one another out in this busines :-p Yeah definately 🙂 tell me how things work out for you when you test out your [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). Us being in the same age group we should have similar results whenever we test something out.