# Question about -none and fertility **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [May 11, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269 "2011-05-11T13:44:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/1 "2011-05-11T13:44:03Z")
In one of my university classes, we were taught about -none along with how research showed that it did cause the women to be more attracted and, well, horny to the male excreting it. However, this was only when the women were ovulating. Otherwise they found it repulsive and unpleasant to smell. Does that mean that the products with -none in them actually only work some of the time? I know TUTH and AMMO have been reported to be great at club in cases where you aren’t aiming for someone in particular and thus can attract someone fertile, but what about individual use? Many users in the intro section ask about using the product on a specific person. I’m not trying to debunk anything, so please bear with me (I get paranoid about posting no-no topics). I just want to know if there’s a more exact science to using -none. When I tested it myself for a few days, I didn’t get self-effects and gave up…but now… ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/2 "2011-05-11T16:45:01Z")
I have noticed with my target that TUTH does work better when she’s ovulating. I have an ovulation tracker on my smartphone and usually only wear TUTH around that time. I would assume also that the other mones would play a role according to what buddies they’re are partnering with. ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/3 "2011-05-11T20:07:39Z")
> [@thodge21](#): > > I have noticed with my target that TUTH does work better when she’s ovulating. I have an ovulation tracker on my smartphone and usually only wear TUTH around that time. I would assume also that the other mones would play a role according to what buddies they’re are partnering with. Is that an android app? ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/4 "2011-05-11T20:15:42Z")
Yes, search fertility calendar in the app store. it’s free. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 10:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/5 "2011-05-12T10:45:17Z")
That’s what the controlled testing showed but testing myself and from reports of others in a real life environment shows slightly different results. Women are not repulsed unless you use to much. They respond better during ovulation. The response in other times during their cycle is not as pronounced and you can OD easier during these periods then during ovulation. Course unless your incredibly in tune with women your not going to know when they ovulate consciously. Just another reason to be mindful of your dosage with anone. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/6 "2011-05-12T11:48:45Z")
> [@LucidDreamer](#): > > In one of my university classes, we were taught about -none along with how research showed that it did cause the women to be more attracted and, well, horny to the male excreting it. However, this was only when the women were ovulating. Otherwise they found it repulsive and unpleasant to smell. > > Does that mean that the products with -none in them actually only work some of the time? > > I know TUTH and AMMO have been reported to be great at club in cases where you aren’t aiming for someone in particular and thus can attract someone fertile, but what about individual use? > > Many users in the intro section ask about using the product on a specific person. > > I’m not trying to debunk anything, so please bear with me (I get paranoid about posting no-no topics). > > I just want to know if there’s a more exact science to using -none. When I tested it myself for a few days, I didn’t get self-effects and gave up…but now… I have noticed alot of variability in the reports posted here for -none heavy mixtures. I think the research results you mentioned would explain this variability. I don’t think this “debunks” the product, but I do think it means they are trickier to use than some other mixtures/products that don’t have so much -none. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/7 "2011-05-12T11:52:05Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > That’s what the controlled testing showed but testing myself and from reports of others in a real life environment shows slightly different results. > > Women are not repulsed unless you use to much. > > They respond better during ovulation. The response in other times during their cycle is not as pronounced and you can OD easier during these periods then during ovulation. Course unless your incredibly in tune with women your not going to know when they ovulate consciously. > > Just another reason to be mindful of your dosage with anone. > > Tisha But Tisha, have you tested plain straight up -none (without buffering of social pheros?)? It is possible that anol, bnol, etc. can mitigate or overcome the repellant reaction a non-ovlulationg woman would otherwise have to -none. ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/8 "2011-05-12T16:23:53Z")
It’s also possible high doses of -none may have been used. It’s a baseless debate without the study to read. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/9 "2011-05-12T19:18:08Z")
> [@xev](#): > > But Tisha, have you tested plain straight up -none (without buffering of social pheros?)? > > It is possible that anol, bnol, etc. can mitigate or overcome the repellant reaction a non-ovlulationg woman would otherwise have to -none. Oh yeah sure, I been using mones so long at first thats all you could find online really in single molecules. Just anone arone A1 est and thats it. We didnt have many choices. LS had the cologne mixes but they were mild in comparison to now. Athena had her formula and so did Dodd but no one knows what Cuttler used and Dodd was more geared toward men. You really didn’t see a boom in all these different molecules till after AD opened. I didnt really start learning or using in depth like I do now until this place opened though. I have tested straight anone on myself. I will admit I dont like it on me if unbuffered by other molecules. It doesn’t attract anyone to me and just makes me feel sort of butch. I have tested straight anone worn by male test subjects I work with and from my social group. Again as long as they dont over do with it they get some results. No repulsion but different levels of attraction depending on the womens cycle time. For some reason I noticed right before a women period (a day or two) this is when they get crankier then they would normally without the anone. Its still not repulsion though. Straight anone is not as effective as something like TUTH which has steering mones in it. I do think the buffering and steering [pheromones](https://a314.com/) play a part in how effective it will be. > [@](#): > > I do think it means they are trickier to use than some other mixtures/products that don’t have so much -none. I am totally in agreement there. Some pheromones are more volatile and dosage dependant and anone is one of those that can trip you up if not careful. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/10 "2011-05-12T22:44:05Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Oh yeah sure, I been using mones so long at first thats all you could find online really in single molecules. Just anone arone A1 est and thats it. We didnt have many choices. LS had the cologne mixes but they were mild in comparison to now. Athena had her formula and so did Dodd but no one knows what Cuttler used and Dodd was more geared toward men. You really didn’t see a boom in all these different molecules till after AD opened. I didnt really start learning or using in depth like I do now until this place opened though. > > I have tested straight anone on myself. I will admit I dont like it on me if unbuffered by other molecules. It doesn’t attract anyone to me and just makes me feel sort of butch. > > I have tested straight anone worn by male test subjects I work with and from my social group. Again as long as they dont over do with it they get some results. No repulsion but different levels of attraction depending on the womens cycle time. For some reason I noticed right before a women period (a day or two) this is when they get crankier then they would normally without the anone. Its still not repulsion though. Straight anone is not as effective as something like **TUTH which has _steering mones_** in it. I do think the buffering and steering pheromones play a part in how effective it will be. > > I am totally in agreement there. Some pheromones are more volatile and dosage dependant and anone is one of those that can trip you up if not careful. > > Tisha What is the steering part? Also yeah I must be lucky finding myself right here from the beginning after things picked up. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/11 "2011-05-12T22:55:27Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > What is the steering part? > > Also yeah I must be lucky finding myself right here from the beginning after things picked up. If I told you it wouldnt be a secret formula anymore would it LOL Tuth actually has 11 other steering molecules according to Jasmin. Its a total of 5 mcgs of mones total with 2.5 of those being anone. So its minuet amounts of certain other putatives that steer it in a heated sexual direction and probably slightly buffer it a bit. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/12 "2011-05-13T05:51:31Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > If I told you it wouldnt be a secret formula anymore would it LOL > > Tuth actually has 11 other steering molecules according to Jasmin. Its a total of 5 mcgs of mones total with 2.5 of those being anone. So its minuet amounts of certain other putatives that steer it in a heated sexual direction and probably slightly buffer it a bit. > > Tisha Having formulated these before, I can vouch for the fact that products like TUTH, A314, etc have such nuances in their formulas. You’d be surprised what such small amounts can do to steer big “bully” molecules like anone when they get together. Tisha knows what’s up. ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/13 "2011-05-13T17:09:56Z")
I knew A314 was loaded but I was under the impression that TUTH was all out anone. Explains the reports of A314 + TUTH, and A314 + 2x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) even had an interesting thread. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/14 "2011-05-13T21:20:43Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > I knew A314 was loaded but I was under the impression that TUTH was all out anone. Explains the reports of A314 + TUTH, and A314 + 2x Ammo even had an interesting thread. Just to clarify, A314 has very little anone in it. Its 80% a- **R** one. I saw someone in the mens section make that mistake the other day and intended to correct it but never got around to it. It is loaded with many pheromones though. Last reported count was up near 17 I think. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-none-and-fertility/50269/15 "2011-05-17T22:31:21Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Just to clarify, A314 has very little anone in it. Its 80% a- **R** one. I saw someone in the mens section make that mistake the other day and intended to correct it but never got around to it. It is loaded with many pheromones though. Last reported count was up near 17 I think. > > Tisha By loaded I meant that by having many different mones in it, which I think it was 15 off hand… or it could have been 15 putatives/others along with the basic mones. Either way it has a lot of stuff working together.