# Question: Instant Gentleman and Experimone Androstenone vs. Ammunition **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 13, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-instant-gentleman-and-experimone-androstenone-vs-ammunition/15474 "2008-07-13T17:55:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-instant-gentleman-and-experimone-androstenone-vs-ammunition/15474/1 "2008-07-13T17:55:02Z")
I’m REALLY looking forward to trying [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), but I would like to add some androstenone to the mix. I am 17, live in a diverse community, and I want to attract the Latina girls (I know they can take higher levels of androstenone) without feeling the ghost effect from guys and white girls. I heard that Ammo is just Instant Gentleman w/ -NONE, is this true? Also, if it is not, can I just use Experimone Androstenone? Which mcg do you recommend? Thanks for the help 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-instant-gentleman-and-experimone-androstenone-vs-ammunition/15474/2 "2008-07-13T18:31:24Z")
No it is not true. IG is mostly -Rone with some other additives. Ammo is -None with a touch of a-nol and TAA (unless the recipe has changed) Even then, the consumer products usually have a couple mcgs of other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) to help steer the vibe, so you wouldn’t have exactly Ammo, you’d have a similar Ammo copy. That being said, I wouldn’t add too much -none onto IG. Try it alone first, see how things go. You may be surprised at the -rone, it is not like -none, but it is still very masculine and strong. Give it a go, then see for yourself how adding a little -none to the mix will change it. In fact, you could try combining Ammo and IG later. The Ammo has just enough -none, and is buffered well by the a-nol and TAA. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-instant-gentleman-and-experimone-androstenone-vs-ammunition/15474/3 "2008-07-13T18:32:43Z")
I was thinking the 7.5 mcg. ExperiMone Androstenone (1 spray) and use it with 2-3 sprays of a Social Pheromone (probably 2X Instant Openness), the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), and MAYBE a drop of A314. Top it off w/, naturally, 2 sprays of 2X Instant Shine. Use this as my school (senior year) signature. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-instant-gentleman-and-experimone-androstenone-vs-ammunition/15474/4 "2008-07-13T18:33:50Z")
OH, I posted before I saw your reply. OK, I’ll do that Phya. I’d give you reps, but I have to “spread” reps before I can give you any 😃 THANK YOU ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-instant-gentleman-and-experimone-androstenone-vs-ammunition/15474/5 "2008-07-13T19:58:57Z")
Sure, thanks, and don’t worry about them. 🙂 As for the above mix, I wouldn’t spray 2-3 sprays of IS2X THEN top it off with another 2 sprays of IS. If you want to develop a solid school sig, I would recommend finding your sweet spot with IG, then finding your sweet spot with IO and/or IH. Use that combination as your ‘foundation’. Then, find your sweet spots for -none/Ammo, IS, and any other pheromones you might have/want/use. And layer accordingly onto your foundation. So, for a basic, everyday mix, I might wear my IG, then either IO or IH (depending on my mood), and then IS on top of that. If I wanted to take it a little further, I would experiment with a little p79, a little p74, a little -none..etc.. Remember that the most effective combos are balanced and have a specific direction. Don’t try and cover all your bases in one mix, or try and make a ‘super’ mix for every situation. If you’re going to add something into your combo, have a good reason to. Don’t just toss it in for the sake of it, unless you’re testing it out. If you have a good solid mix, and you want to tweak it, by all means go for it, but understand that individual components can have a dramatic impact on the overall pheromone combination. As for the A314+IG combo, I haven’t tried it much myself, so I don’t have much to offer. But I can say that, either on their own, is a solid foundation. Putting A314 into a mix though, is like tossing a full course meal into your salad bowl. It might work, but it might be more ‘meat’ than you needed, when you could have used more ‘seasonings’ (IS, p74, p83, p93, TAK, TAF, etc..)