# Question on OD

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 5, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526 "2008-11-05T14:47:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cabledawg299](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cabledawg299](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cabledawg299)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/1 "2008-11-05T14:47:33Z")

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Now i am confused, Tisha and all the experts all same the same thing, that the phero’s only last about 6 hours some 12, so how can you get a build up and OD,what about taking a shower does soap and water not clean them up or neutralize them,i heard you should take a week off of wearing pheros to get rid of the build up. so whats the deal

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/2 "2008-11-05T18:05:09Z")

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I was going to post the same question just before i read this. The only thing i can think of is a small amount is still there so adding to it will gradually bring that small amount to a bigger amount each time. So do the pheros completly run out after around 6 hours or whatever it takes or is there always going to be that tiny bit still working?

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/3 "2008-11-05T18:18:37Z")

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None build up OD’s are very real. It took me four consecutive days of wearing aggressive none mixes but eventually I OD’d and it was bad. Much worse than just a normal OD I found.

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/4 "2008-11-05T18:47:40Z")

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> [@cabledawg299](#):
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> Now i am confused, Tisha and all the experts all same the same thing, that the phero’s only last about 6 hours some 12, so how can you get a build up and OD,what about taking a shower does soap and water not clean them up or neutralize them,i heard you should take a week off of wearing pheros to get rid of the build up. so whats the deal

The ONLY ones that I know of that seems to have a residual effect are those products that contain androstenone, commonly referred to as -none. Turn Up The Heat and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) contain a lot of -none and I believe A314 contains a very small amount so this one probably doesn’t have that issue so much. -None tends to be “sticky” and long-lasting, thus, when sprayed on clothing or hair, it “sticks” and can actually build up. Normal shampooing and soaping up in the shower should take care of it on your body and as for the clothes, any good detergent should remove it. You could also give Oxy-clean a try.

Hope that explains it for you.

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/5 "2008-11-05T18:57:36Z")

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So, after 1 day of use a small residue would be left, however it would not be enough for any effects the next day. But then if i added more the next day more residue would be left after that days use increasing the effects if any.

So answer would be make sure you wash behind your ears!

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/6 "2008-11-05T19:19:27Z")

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> [@UKClubber](#):
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> So answer would be make sure you wash behind your ears!

:DLOL! I couldn’t have said it any better myself!!

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**Author:** ![cabledawg299](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cabledawg299](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cabledawg299)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/7 "2008-11-05T20:16:35Z")

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“Normal shampooing and soaping up in the shower should take care of it on your body”

O good i can put the sand paper away!!!

so lets recap, shower everyday and were good to go-guess mom was right

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/8 "2008-11-05T20:39:43Z")

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I hope you take a shower everyday lol totally kidding 😃

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**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/9 "2008-11-05T22:12:21Z")

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Found some wipes with ‘extract of witch hazel’. That enough or do I need the pure stuff? Hydrogen Peroxide? Think some Shampoo has that in doesn’t it? 🙂

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/10 "2008-11-05T22:22:49Z")

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> [@stoiker](#):
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> Found some wipes with ‘extract of witch hazel’. That enough or do I need the pure stuff? Hydrogen Peroxide? Think some Shampoo has that in doesn’t it? 🙂

Gosh, I’d think that would work. IDK. Hopefully someone who’s actually used witch hazel will happen to drop by and bless us with some of their wisdom!😃

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/11 "2008-11-05T22:48:07Z")

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I shower pretty vigorously every day, none build ups can still happen.

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/12 "2008-11-05T22:53:46Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
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> I shower pretty vigorously every day, none build ups can still happen.

So, taking a break from -none once in a while would be a good thing, right WildFlower?😉

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/13 "2008-11-06T04:24:56Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
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> I shower pretty vigorously every day, none build ups can still happen.

hydrogen peroxide is the ONLY thing that guarantees total -none removal from the skin as far as my experience goes.

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**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/14 "2008-11-06T08:11:04Z")

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I’l ask my science department for some. LOL! Handy working in a school.

I decided to have a rest from Pheros today anyway. Had a nice scrub last night so my skin is glowing. 🙂

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/15 "2008-11-06T16:39:57Z")

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> [@river](#):
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> So, taking a break from -none once in a while would be a good thing, right WildFlower?😉

lol yes for sure. It’s rare I’d used none four days in a row I just happened to be busy that week. Infact I only really use none at the weekends (apart from A314 which I’m using every day at the moment. How much none is in a drop of that stuff?)

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/16 "2008-11-06T17:15:14Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
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> How much none is in a drop of that stuff?)

Here’s my notes on it. I think it’s not a lot:

[A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) has a small amount of [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) in it. Its 80% Androste **Androsterone** with 16 other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) included.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/17 "2008-11-06T17:37:27Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
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> lol yes for sure. It’s rare I’d used none four days in a row I just happened to be busy that week. Infact I only really use none at the weekends (apart from A314 which I’m using every day at the moment. How much none is in a drop of that stuff?)

River is right, there is very little anone in A314.

> [@LifeT](#):
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> hydrogen peroxide is the ONLY thing that guarantees total -none removal from the skin as far as my experience goes.

Correct it is the best defense against build up but sometimes its not practical.

> [@cabledawg299](#):
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> Now i am confused, Tisha and all the experts all same the same thing, that the phero’s only last about 6 hours some 12, so how can you get a build up and OD,what about taking a shower does soap and water not clean them up or neutralize them,i heard you should take a week off of wearing pheros to get rid of the build up. so whats the deal

Most mones wash right off or wear off. Anone can be sticky and build up over extended periods of time. This doesn’t happen quickly in most cases. We are talking about daily use of anone for weeks. Unless of course you dont shower then were talking days. While its something to be aware of its not something to worry about and its easily taken care of.

> [@cabledawg299](#):
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> "Normal shampooing and soaping up in the shower should take care of it on your body
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> O good i can put the sand paper away!!!
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> so lets recap, shower everyday and were good to go-guess mom was right

Not with anone in some cases. I would not use it in the hair. Hair is porous and its very hard to get it out. I would use a exfoliating soap. Caress Dove and oil of olay make them. Its good for the skin to, it helps you avoid getting that saggy old skin as you age.

You would think I am weird if you knew the weird things I exfoliate with LOL

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**Author:** ![networkuser123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dc4da7/32.png) [@networkuser123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/networkuser123)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/18 "2008-11-07T01:46:53Z")

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what are some of the effects of OD on none? I don’t see the big deal really…

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/19 "2008-11-07T03:24:49Z")

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> [@networkuser123](#):
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> what are some of the effects of OD on none? I don’t see the big deal really…

Too much -none can actually result in the opposite of what you’re trying to accomplish which is attracting women. TUTH sends out the aggressive caveman type “Me Man, You Woman” vibe. Too much and the girl will feel that you are too aggressive and will steer clear of you.

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**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-od/22526/20 "2008-11-07T09:06:54Z")

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> [@river](#):
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> Too much -none can actually result in the opposite of what you’re trying to accomplish which is attracting women. TUTH sends out the aggressive caveman type “Me Man, You Woman” vibe. Too much and the girl will feel that you are too aggressive and will steer clear of you.

They tend to do that to me anyway! lol!

My special order of H2O2 is coming today. The Head of Science said he would send someone up with it. Heh, he asked if I was going to bleach my hair! Must say I haven’t had any OD effects, but then I am always careful. I know its covered in many threads, but its good to be reminded.

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