# Question regarding NOFAP and PHEROMONES **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 31, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401 "2015-12-31T02:35:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![swedishdean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@swedishdean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swedishdean)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/1 "2015-12-31T02:35:07Z")
So I never really used to think much about “[pheromones](https://a314.com/)”, just didnt bother, figured it might be a scam or whatever. However, I stumpled upon this “nofap” concept for maybe one year ago, and I kid you not on every damn “good streak” I have, about 3 weeks +, suddently girls start staring at me, guys become VERY friendly or hostile, in general people just threat me with more respect, notice me MUCH more. Its far from “placebo”, man when I fap, I get almost no attention. But when I stop shooting the load, just for a couple of weeks, suddently its like Im a celebrity walking around. Its not even a “confidence” thing, sometimes on nofap I feel utter shit, I dont wanna talk to people, feel weird and introverted, yet they fucking stare at me and approach me. Its so god damn fucked up. On 2 months of nofap I get more attention from girls than like 4 years of fapping, Its a total and utter night and day difference. Do anyone here know something about this? Could it be possible that you start to release some kind of “pheromones” when you dont ejaculate for a while? If so, then It starts to make sense, and if so, then pheromones are fucking POWERFUL man lol! ---
**Author:** ![thivagar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thivagar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thivagar)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/2 "2015-12-31T06:07:17Z")
> [@swedishdean](#): > > So I never really used to think much about “pheromones”, just didnt bother, figured it might be a scam or whatever. > > However, I stumpled upon this “nofap” concept for maybe one year ago, and I kid you not on every damn “good streak” I have, about 3 weeks +, suddently girls start staring at me, guys become VERY friendly or hostile, in general people just threat me with more respect, notice me MUCH more. > > Its far from “placebo”, man when I fap, I get almost no attention. But when I stop shooting the load, just for a couple of weeks, suddently its like Im a celebrity walking around. > > Its not even a “confidence” thing, sometimes on nofap I feel utter shit, I dont wanna talk to people, feel weird and introverted, yet they fucking stare at me and approach me. Its so god damn fucked up. > > On 2 months of nofap I get more attention from girls than like 4 years of fapping, Its a total and utter night and day difference. > > Do anyone here know something about this? Could it be possible that you start to release some kind of “pheromones” when you dont ejaculate for a while? If so, then It starts to make sense, and if so, then pheromones are fucking POWERFUL man lol! Hey man, I once went on a 40 day streak and I felt what all you are mentioning. I have ordered A314 and Summer Ammunition. I can gurantee you that they actually work. My NOFAP streak was kinda ruined for couple of months because I knew that Phero i bought would compensate. I’ve been only using it for the last couple of months. I’ll tell you something, Pheros you by will last you hours, but NOFAP lasts till you start ejaculating. I want to go on a longer streak and test pheros. It still works even after ejaculating, so it does work, I’d prefer you do with NOFAP as well just to get that extra kick 😉. ---
**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/3 "2015-12-31T19:32:17Z")
Gotta laugh at “NOFAP”. 😃 Interesting theory. I will try it out - no fapping for a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/4 "2015-12-31T23:56:57Z")
Good luck with NOFAP’ing. But I’ll pass 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![swedishdean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@swedishdean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swedishdean)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/5 "2016-01-01T01:03:52Z")
Im telling you guys the effect is fucking STRONG. It is the only reason I even stumpled upon pheromones and started to consider them be legit. Now I just have to find a pheromone that I can use instead of not jerking it for 30 days to get the same effect. Which one do you think would be a good choise? The effects I get when I dont ejaculate for a long time is: Girls STARE at me, and some approach me. They get giggly, and some of them seem to get intimidated also. Men either show alot of respect and wanna be friend, or they seem to become somewhat hostile/aggressive. One thing thou is that people in general just NOTICE you more, like you can go into a room and guys and girls eyes just observe you. Meanwhile, when I ejaculate all the time, Its like you are invisible to people, no one “cares” lol. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/6 "2016-01-01T03:25:58Z")
From what I understand, the basic premise of NOFAP is that it maximises the body’s use of of available natural Testosterone. Phero-wise, Androstenone is the main metabolite of Testesterone, so if you are not taking other steps to boost your natural production (ie training, diet, supplements, replacement therapy etc), then you probably want to be testing the Androstenone products - [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TUTH, IJ or the unsteered Experimone Androstenone itself. What does concern me about its methodology though is the emphasis on duration. Unless there are specific health issues to muddy the waters, a fairly typical guy’s natural Test cycle is around 10-14 days, with a median of 4-6 days. Abstaining beyond this seems to get into more psychological territory rather than (no pun intended) hard science. Then there is the matter that ejaculation itself also provides benefits that contribute to long term physical and psychological health - Notably the increased production of Leukocytes, which help your body control toxin levels and malignant cell development. ---
**Author:** ![thivagar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thivagar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thivagar)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/7 "2016-01-02T03:09:23Z")
> [@swedishdean](#): > > Im telling you guys the effect is fucking STRONG. It is the only reason I even stumpled upon pheromones and started to consider them be legit. > > Now I just have to find a pheromone that I can use instead of not jerking it for 30 days to get the same effect. > > **Which one do you think would be a good choise? The effects I get when I dont ejaculate for a long time is: Girls STARE at me, and some approach me. They get giggly, and some of them seem to get intimidated also.** > > Men either show alot of respect and wanna be friend, or they seem to become somewhat hostile/aggressive. > > One thing thou is that people in general just NOTICE you more, like you can go into a room and guys and girls eyes just observe you. Meanwhile, when I ejaculate all the time, Its like you are invisible to people, no one “cares” lol. I too only started believing in mones after NOFAP. You get that affect with A314, Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and AMMO. But they don’t last for more than 4-6 hours and you don’t feel that energetic or happy like you would with NOFAP. Go with AMMO and A314 for respect and girls. ---
**Author:** ![swedishdean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@swedishdean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swedishdean)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/8 "2016-01-03T03:32:18Z")
Thanks man, u prefer them before TUTH? if so why? ---
**Author:** ![thivagar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thivagar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thivagar)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/9 "2016-01-05T05:51:04Z")
> [@swedishdean](#): > > Thanks man, u prefer them before TUTH? if so why? TUTH makes the girl horny around you, it is not same as being attracted. So they might kinda move away from you. A314 makes them respect you and AMMO makes you attractive. When someone views highly of you and is attracted to you then the next process becomes easy. You are only recommended to use TUTH when you have been with a person for a long time. If you have the budget, get a TUTH as well, but A314+AMMO(SUMMER AMMO for 18 to 30) are recommended for getting good with girls. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/10 "2016-01-09T17:21:59Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > From what I understand, the basic premise of NOFAP is that it maximises the body’s use of of available natural Testosterone. > > Phero-wise, Androstenone is the main metabolite of Testesterone, so if you are not taking other steps to boost your natural production (ie training, diet, supplements, replacement therapy etc), then you probably want to be testing the Androstenone products - Ammo, TUTH, IJ or the unsteered Experimone Androstenone itself. > > What does concern me about its methodology though is the emphasis on duration. Unless there are specific health issues to muddy the waters, a fairly typical guy’s natural Test cycle is around 10-14 days, with a median of 4-6 days. Abstaining beyond this seems to get into more psychological territory rather than (no pun intended) hard science. Then there is the matter that ejaculation itself also provides benefits that contribute to long term physical and psychological health - Notably the increased production of Leukocytes, which help your body control toxin levels and malignant cell development. I agree with mobo on this one. The increase in testosterone which leads to the increase in androstenone only peaks at around this time period. Beyond that seems to be pointless. Maybe it’s your bodies way of sending a [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) signal that says to the female species: “Hey I haven’t ejaculated in a long time, I desperately need to be relieved.” Hence you become much more attractive..?? But just for clarity, you ARE talking about no ejaculation at all, right? Like not even sex? ---
**Author:** ![XcrossXtrike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xcrossxtrike/32/5190_2.png) [@XcrossXtrike](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XcrossXtrike)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/11 "2016-01-11T23:41:54Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I agree with mobo on this one. > > The increase in testosterone which leads to the increase in androstenone only peaks at around this time period. Beyond that seems to be pointless. > **Maybe it’s your bodies way of sending a pheromone signal that says to the female species: > _“Hey I haven’t ejaculated in a long time, I desperately need to be relieved.” > Hence you become much more attractive..??_** > > But just for clarity, you ARE talking about no ejaculation at all, right? Like not even sex? I too wonder this. btw im on my 86 day streak here and im seeing some serious results with women. ---
**Author:** ![swedishdean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@swedishdean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swedishdean)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/12 "2016-01-12T00:29:35Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I agree with mobo on this one. > > The increase in testosterone which leads to the increase in androstenone only peaks at around this time period. Beyond that seems to be pointless. > Maybe it’s your bodies way of sending a pheromone signal that says to the female species: > “Hey I haven’t ejaculated in a long time, I desperately need to be relieved.” > Hence you become much more attractive..?? > > But just for clarity, you ARE talking about no ejaculation at all, right? Like not even sex? Yes Im talking about ejaculation but It seems like for example 40 days is WAY more effective than just 7 days (The testosterone spike). ---
**Author:** ![swedishdean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@swedishdean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swedishdean)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/13 "2016-01-12T00:31:00Z")
> [@XcrossXtrike](#): > > I too wonder this. btw im on my 86 day streak here and im seeing some serious results with women. Tell us about it please! ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/14 "2016-01-12T01:01:30Z")
86 days without sex. Man. What a boring way to “maybe” become attractive. I’d feel like a monk. But maybe monks are the most attractive persons by that theory? If so, a guy who would be so ugly as to be called an ‘un\*\*\*\*able’ would cause ladies to be in awe? What kind of reaction do you get when you tell a girl: “Sorry girl, can’t sleep with you tonight, I must strive to make you attracted to me real hard first by not ejaculating for days”. Or do you avoid flirting altogether? Or do you have coitus interruptus (I guess not, you said ‘without sex’)? Isn’t this just a very low libido issue? Never have erections during all that time? If you have some, the prostatic gland will be big as a cauliflower by the time you reach 40? I’m not making fun here. Just trying real hard to understand the kick that one can get out of this way of life. Trying to see a logic in it all. This topic is a bit of an oddball for me, am I the only one around here not getting this? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/15 "2016-01-12T05:14:45Z")
Conjurator, You made a very valid, yet ironic point. Stay away from sex to attract the opposite sex so you can stay away from sex? I am also having a hard time understanding the logic behind this. I guess to understand human biology better? ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/16 "2016-01-12T05:20:11Z")
To pursue with that logic… a teen guy should simply stop masturbating to lose his virginity in three months guaranteed because the girls will be flocking at him by then? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/17 "2016-01-12T05:50:47Z")
Technically you don’t even go that long without ejaculating. Eventually your body will let it out through with urine and/or a wet dream. ---
**Author:** ![freerad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@freerad](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freerad)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/18 "2016-01-12T14:31:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Stay away from sex to attract the opposite sex so you can stay away from sex? You guys are (unintentionally?) amusing! Maybe it’s more psychological as in ejaculation = loss of confidence or perceived low mojo? Women can be highly sensitive to subtle changes in attitude. ---
**Author:** ![swedishdean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@swedishdean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swedishdean)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/19 "2016-01-12T15:09:59Z")
> [@freerad](#): > > You guys are (unintentionally?) amusing! > > Maybe it’s more psychological as in ejaculation = loss of confidence or perceived low mojo? Women can be highly sensitive to subtle changes in attitude. I thought this too at first, however, after several times experiencing the “flatline” nofappers call it, that is, that withdrawal period when an addict stop watching porn and feel like absolute shit - depressed, unmotivated, anxious - and during those times experiencing hard attraction from women, made me realise its something else. Im talking about girls just staring at me, blushing, smiling. One girl approached me in the middle of the day and stuck up conversation asking for my number. Another 3 girls followed me around the store giggling just staring at me as I was some kind of celebrity. Its so fucking weird, when I ejaculate I get NO attention, Its almost like I dont even exist. But when I stop it, in some weeks suddently women start staring and even MEN take way more notice of me, show more respect, wanna be friends, or other times become very aggressive like they are challenged. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-regarding-nofap-and-pheromones/65401/20 "2016-01-12T15:33:44Z")
Freerad. I don’t see why ejaculation would mean less confidence? I don’t know for y’all, but when this happens, I’m usually quite confident that I’ve reached my goal already (lol). I find it recharges the Mojo, karma, energy, probably chakras too (even though I have no fricking clue what these are). Now was being funny intentional or unintentional, it’s hard to say when a peculiar subject matter like this one is concerned. * * * To change subject… Great Tacitus quote, Freerad. It’s a piece of pure anthology 🙂.