# Questions on testing a few of the new mx packs **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 16, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670 "2015-01-16T19:39:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mascara\_mones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mascara_mones/32/1510_2.png) [@mascara\_mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mascara_mones)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/1 "2015-01-16T19:39:01Z")
Hi loves! I’ve got a few questions on testing the new MX packs, they may be common sence or already answered if so sorry. Sence I’m still very new with mones and haven’t tried a mx pack before I want to make sure I try these out correctly 😕 . 1:The Vanilla Copulins MX Pack ( MX471, MX472, MX473, MX474): If I remember correctly these are prodominatly cops? I don’t have much experience at all using cops so… I’m guessing these are meant to be used/tested one at a time with out the other mxs in the pack? Also should these be combined with another mone from the get go or would testing them solo be ok? 2: Women’s sensual duo (MX480 & MX481) and Women’s love pack (MX466, MX467, MX468, MX469, MX470) Are these meant to be tested in combination with the other MX(s) in their respective packs or should they be tested solo a.k.a normal testing practice? Thanks Dolls, again I’m sorry if these questions have already been addressed but I’m new to pcaks and I don’t want to do a search on them because I’d prefer to have as much of a blind test as possible without expectations from other lovely ladies reviews. Thanks again, Mascara&Mones ---
**Author:** ![Terabithia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c2a13f/32.png) [@Terabithia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Terabithia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/2 "2015-01-17T21:20:55Z")
I just got my Women’s Love Pack and I’m interested to know the best way to go about it too. They smell amazing by the way! Yes!!! Even my gf said, “Mmmm, what do you have on?” I’ve been trying them one at a time for now, but I’ll post as I do more testing. Let me know your two cents on the Vanilla Cops; that’s next on my list. Wonder how that would pair with TUTH? Self effects might be out of this world!!! ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/3 "2015-01-18T04:57:49Z")
For reporting purposes, experimentals should be tested solo. Get a good, solid understanding of each one (with thorough reports) before you try combining anything. Reports on a product are only valuable if they give AD a good handle on how the individual product is working. If there’s not much feedback on an MX, and people jump into mixing it with other things, that muddies up the data so that AD can’t tell what effects are coming from the MX itself versus whatever was added. Testing and reporting on an entire MX pack can (and should) take a while. Be patient, and give each product your full attention. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 9:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/4 "2015-01-18T09:04:00Z")
Yes, Miss. The Vanilia Copulins each contain a different copulins formulation. It proved VERY difficult to find a designer could make copulins that assay to our quality standards. We originally carried copulins, but they weren’t a mainstream part of our product line. Copulins quality deteriorated, and what limited supplies were available on market didn’t meet our internal standards, so were obliged to drop them. These are the first in years we feel willing to stand behind. Yet they remain experimental. Please do report on each bottle in the pack by itself. That goes for each pack. Thereafter, feel free to mix & match and report upon your own combinations. I should say the sensual duo, one of them from the pack should be a useful addition with the copulins and something such as Instant Sexiness. Similarly, one might add copulins to IS/A or B. I’ve been told men can do as well. Should be perfectly fine to add the Vanilia Copulins or one of the Sensual Duo to a Men’s product. That’s all I can say for now during blind testing. To restate clearly: Some feedback is required for each pack. It could be just a paragraph on this board, by phone or email. I’ve not been told a distinct report on each MX bottle of the pack is needed. That would be OK but not entirely mandatory. I’ll see from Brian more specifics. That’s what we’ve agreed so far. We’d hope you test each bottle for social effects by itself at least once. If you we’re to phone in a report on just MX480 but not 481, that, for example, would be fine at present. Sometimes, a quick comment such as “Sprayed MX481 twice by itself. Really liked it. Lots of flirting and great self effects. Will order more.” Those few words are fine report. We’re not expecting a novel. Just 100 words on the two bottles in pack of that sort, a few quick sentences, are good feedback. This is the same as you’d find in a Yelp review perhaps. “Ate something of the menu. Food good, service good, 4 stars, will recommend to others.” Some feedback of some sort on at least one bottle per pack is just fine. In future those who’ve ordered a pack but in 90 days have not reached out to us, we’ll likely reach out to _them_ by email. MX135 and that lot of restocked mixes are experimental in a broad sense. MX480 and Copulins are very experimental. Feedback directly decides which get restocked. Whereas MX135 is less experimental and thus will be stocked indefinitely. [In this one of few threads](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/behind-the-scenes-mx-formula-cheat-sheets/37364) where any mention has been made of what’s in a MX, you’ll see what we’re on about. Each component molecule is in precise ratios. Every nanogram matters. Miniscule amounts of some of the most potent molecules on earth by weight drive the end result. We never follow phero industry fads. We aim for **least** effective dose of molecules. Works quite well. Men who have used TUTH, which has only 2.5 mcg per spray (and some steering bits along with androstenone), see that not much steering or androst. is req. for results. So adding even a fraction of an outside component changes the lot. Sometimes for the better, other times not. It’s a bit of a laugh to us in planning MX releases how clients could not get enough [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/) and 203 and all that lot. Some of this technology we started near to 15 years ago. Now some seem to think the MX with such delicate balance mustn’t work unless we drop tonnes of molecule into it. Be that as it may, we’ll not do that. We’ll stick with what works. Products such as A314 needn’t have much androst. to be effective. Neither should men shun TAL or TAH as steering components. ---
**Author:** ![mascara\_mones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mascara_mones/32/1510_2.png) [@mascara\_mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mascara_mones)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/5 "2015-01-18T22:06:54Z")
Thanks Charles! I copied the report guide from one of the other post and try to stick to that when I’m not reporting in my journal but this is the first time I’ve ordered “packs” so I just wanted to double check that they were supposed to be tested independently also 🙂 Thanks again dolls! > [@Charles\_W](#): > > Yes, Miss. > > The Vanilia Copulins each contain a different copulins formulation. It proved VERY difficult to find a designer could make copulins that assay to our quality standards. We originally carried copulins, but they weren’t a mainstream part of our product line. Copulins quality deteriorated, and what limited supplies were available on market didn’t meet our internal standards, so were obliged to drop them. > > These are the first in years we feel willing to stand behind. Yet they remain experimental. Please do report on each bottle in the pack by itself. That goes for each pack. Thereafter, feel free to mix & match and report upon your own combinations. > > I should say the sensual duo, one of them from the pack should be a useful addition with the copulins and something such as Instant Sexiness. Similarly, one might add copulins to IS/A or B. > > I’ve been told men can do as well. Should be perfectly fine to add the Vanilia Copulins or one of the Sensual Duo to a Men’s product. That’s all I can say for now during blind testing. > > To restate clearly: > > Some feedback is required for each pack. > > It could be just a paragraph on this board, by phone or email. > > I’ve not been told a distinct report on each MX bottle of the pack is needed. That would be OK but not entirely mandatory. I’ll see from Brian more specifics. That’s what we’ve agreed so far. > > We’d hope you test each bottle for social effects by itself at least once. > > If you we’re to phone in a report on just MX480 but not 481, that, for example, would be fine at present. > > Sometimes, a quick comment such as “Sprayed MX481 twice by itself. Really liked it. Lots of flirting and great self effects. Will order more.” Those few words are fine report. We’re not expecting a novel. Just 100 words on the two bottles in pack of that sort, a few quick sentences, are good feedback. > > This is the same as you’d find in a Yelp review perhaps. “Ate something of the menu. Food good, service good, 4 stars, will recommend to others.” > > Some feedback of some sort on at least one bottle per pack is just fine. > > In future those who’ve ordered a pack but in 90 days have not reached out to us, we’ll likely reach out to _them_ by email. > > MX135 and that lot of restocked mixes are experimental in a broad sense. > > MX480 and Copulins are very experimental. Feedback directly decides which get restocked. Whereas MX135 is less experimental and thus will be stocked indefinitely. > > [In this one of few threads](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/behind-the-scenes-mx-formula-cheat-sheets/37364) where any mention has been made of what’s in a MX, you’ll see what we’re on about. > > Each component molecule is in precise ratios. Every nanogram matters. Miniscule amounts of some of the most potent molecules on earth by weight drive the end result. We never follow phero industry fads. We aim for **least** effective dose of molecules. Works quite well. Men who have used TUTH, which has only 2.5 mcg per spray (and some steering bits along with androstenone), see that not much steering or androst. is req. for results. > > So adding even a fraction of an outside component changes the lot. Sometimes for the better, other times not. > > It’s a bit of a laugh to us in planning MX releases how clients could not get enough MX200 and 203 and all that lot. Some of this technology we started near to 15 years ago. > > Now some seem to think the MX with such delicate balance mustn’t work unless we drop tonnes of molecule into it. Be that as it may, we’ll not do that. We’ll stick with what works. > > Products such as A314 needn’t have much androst. to be effective. Neither should men shun TAL or TAH as steering components. ---
**Author:** ![mascara\_mones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mascara_mones/32/1510_2.png) [@mascara\_mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mascara_mones)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/6 "2015-01-18T22:25:11Z")
Hi Tearbitha ! Thanks for the smell up date! I’m really excited to test all of them, however I just started a new job and a new set of classes so I’m forcing myself to stick to mones that I feel like I have a good handle on until I have a baseline on the new people. I don’t want to report persons x,y&z respond to – in – manor and later find out that is their baseline and I have provided incorrect data.. lol However I have tested on of the vanilla cops and was super happy with it! Hubs ended up stuck at work so no real testing… However I was nervous about these because the (very) few products I have tried with cops have smelled terrible even with a cover scent. While this didn’t rank among my favorite smells from androtics products it was by no means unpleasant… it could easily be worn solo with no concern about how you smell 😃 … I hope it’s ok for that to be posted here ? I know it is on embargo but I don’t have any real data on it as of yet just that it doesn’t have the run for your life, someone give me rubbing alcohol and Tylenol smell 😮 that has accompanied the other product I tested which contained cops… > [@Terabithia](#): > > I just got my Women’s Love Pack and I’m interested to know the best way to go about it too. > > They smell amazing by the way! Yes!!! Even my gf said, “Mmmm, what do you have on?” I’ve been trying them one at a time for now, but I’ll post as I do more testing. > > Let me know your two cents on the Vanilla Cops; that’s next on my list. Wonder how that would pair with TUTH? Self effects might be out of this world!!! ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/questions-on-testing-a-few-of-the-new-mx-packs/63670/7 "2015-01-19T10:22:38Z")
I should perhaps add the black hue of your username is a Reporting User experiment which we’re undertaking. Some thought to having all the RU appear with a distinct indicator as a mark of reputation. Please do write your feedback as to the certain MX bottle in it’s official thread and copy to your journal. If all will do that much time is saved. The more reports accrue in the official MX threads, as more quickly we can consider unblinding results.