# quick bit of advice **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 9, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879 "2009-03-09T15:26:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/1 "2009-03-09T15:26:24Z")
wife and i are finally getting a night out to our selves this friday, inlaws offered to take the kids for a bit. chances are this night out is going to cosist of us in the car sitting outside a coffee shop( normaly thats what happens anyway) but weve been having a bit of relationship troubles for a while, not like outright fights mostly just a lack of anything intimate. now ive gotten the ball rolling on this ( again) so this night is just to kinda get out away from the kids and other distractions. i would love any input on how to really drop here guard get her to really open up more for the evening and really let here know im still and always very interested in her, im not expecting this to end up in a wild romp in the back of the car( as much as that would be nice, tree car seats get in the way of that lol) i would like this night end on as faverable note as possible. any ideas ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/2 "2009-03-09T16:11:50Z")
What phero’s do you have to play with? I’d say go with something that will make her feel more comfortable and liklier to share/improve communication 🙂 If you have any IFM go for that… IH is also a good one to create an intimate feel and closeness to communication. I could see IG having potential as well 🙄 I’d suggest you have a look at Bosshank’s and Diamond’s profiles…They are both married and have successfully used phero’s to improve things at home… Diamond has links in his profile signature that are loaded with great info 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/3 "2009-03-09T16:20:18Z")
pheros ive got a314, instant openness, instant honesty, instant shine, instant ammunition and turn up the heat. unfortunatley i missed the boat on instant female magic and i no instant gentleman. ive had a look at some of the posts from both diamond and bosshank ill have to go through more though. thanks for your tips eh ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/4 "2009-03-09T16:30:38Z")
I will say IO, IH and TUTH. IO will get her talkative and open up to you. IH is to get her closer to you. This will help build the relationship. TUTH is to get her turn on. With some luck you will have wild romp. lol Good luck ---
**Author:** ![Omegabyte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/46a35a/32.png) [@Omegabyte](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Omegabyte)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/5 "2009-03-09T16:41:50Z")
Whatever [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) you use, remember that they are just a tool. A good relationship has to have open honest communication to succeed. If you want her to know that you are still and always very interested in her, then tell her, show her. ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/6 "2009-03-09T16:48:52Z")
thank omegabyte, trust me i do tell her and show her. the reason ive gotten into using pheromones is tha most of the time atleast it seems my efforts alomst go over her head simply because of how manythings she is focused on, i seem to be kinda pushed to the back burner. so im using the pheros to try and solidify my messege, to try and get it out there and sink in ya know. ---
**Author:** ![Omegabyte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/46a35a/32.png) [@Omegabyte](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Omegabyte)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/7 "2009-03-09T17:10:39Z")
It is tough with kids to get the alone time you need. I know. I have three. They are all grown up now, but back then, between jobs and kids and sleep, there is very little time for relationships. Given that you can’t have the quantity of time you want, you just have to make sure that what time you have is quality time together. ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/8 "2009-03-09T17:15:23Z")
its definatley tough almost impossible sometime lol, ive got three aswell my oldest son caleb will be 4 in may and his brother and sister liam and emily are six months old now. so so right now things can get hectic, thats why im thankful my wifes inlaws kinda jumped in in this one. ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/9 "2009-03-09T17:17:47Z")
sorry ment my wife parents, my inlaws lol ---
**Author:** ![Omegabyte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/46a35a/32.png) [@Omegabyte](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Omegabyte)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/10 "2009-03-09T17:19:55Z")
Whenever my ex wife and I fought, I would tell her that the only positive thing I had to say was that I liked her inlaws better than I liked mine…hehe. ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/11 "2009-03-09T17:21:03Z")
lmao, thats hilarious ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/12 "2009-03-09T18:23:23Z")
Just a thought here… If you now have the evening to yourselves why don’t you see that as time that you can use _talking_… If you can get her to open up about whatever it is that’s caused this emotional gap then that’s investing in your future isn’t it? Also from a womans perspective…a lot of the time teling her she’s beautiful, or that you love her isn’t nearly as good as _showing_ it 🙄 Yes, we do love it when we are told we are beautiful, sexy and all that, but sometimes actions speak louder than words… Show her that you love her with little romantic gestures…I’m not talking expensive perfumes and gifts here, just the little things that mean a lot but don’t cost much 🙂 Bring her breakfast in bed, have a lovely bubble bath drawn when she comes home all tired and stressed, take the kids out so she can have go for a coffee & girly chat with her best friend, give her _ONE_ flower…her favourite or something you picked yourself… Just get creative 🙄 Alternatively…have you considered maybe getting _HER_ some phero’s to use to make her feel more sexy & attractive? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/13 "2009-03-09T18:36:04Z")
thank you xiphoid, im always open to the woman side of these things. this night out is for talking about whats going on and trying to start mending things, i dont expect everything to be fixed and all better in one evening i know the things take time( as i before i dont expect anything thing like rocking the back seat to happen lol, but thinking about it puts a smile on my face sry lol) just wanted advice that might help her open up a bit more and help bring us closer to each other. i am definatley going to put extra effort into those little things you have mentioned, thinking about its bin a while since ive really pulled things like that( still do just not as often). as for pheros for her, thats something ive actually been thinking about recently. i know what someof them do for me like instant shine is an instant pick for my mood, what would you recomend for her? ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/14 "2009-03-09T18:43:28Z")
> [@jrussell0508](#): > > as for pheros for her, thats something ive actually been thinking about recently. i know what someof them do for me like instant shine is an instant pick for my mood, what would you recomend for her? [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is a great phero for anyone and any situation if you ask me… I’d say let her have a go of yours and see if she likes it… If you want something that will make her feel sexy and give her a bit of oumpf back then it’s definitively Instant Sexiness time 😃 There’s 2 versions though (IS/a and IS/b) and the one that would be best for her depends on her personality…🙄 How would you describe her? Outgoing, confident, with a strong personality, or is she more girly, softer, not as outgoing? ---
**Author:** ![jrussell0508](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@jrussell0508](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jrussell0508)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-bit-of-advice/26879/15 "2009-03-09T18:55:47Z")
she definatley has a strong personality, she very rarley lets anyone give her shit and she is good at taking charge in most situations. she is pretty quick to get her deffences up though, once she is comfortable around someone she is very outspoken. as far as with me most of the time she takes charge, she wants things done her way and she is not afraid to let me know lol( when it comes to things around the house this comes in handy, if i can have it done the way she want everybody is happy lol) when it comes to the more itimate aspect of our relation ship she becomes fairly quite and almost submisive( not how it used to be). over all most of the time i would call her pretty much an alpha female.