# Quick Question about Instant Shine

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 2, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112 "2011-03-02T15:14:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nick\_plo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nick_plo/32/2038_2.png) [@Nick\_plo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nick_plo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112/1 "2011-03-02T15:14:25Z")

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Hello people!

Decided to make a thread for this as I could not find the answer I’m looking for.

I am going after two more [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) additions to my arsenal: the IShine and Ammo.

I was checking the IShine and noticed that it had 3 different strenghts, 1X (normal), 2X and 4X. From my understanding, it is probably the stronger, the more effective/faster results it will be. but is it like this?

I am aware that for example, 2X Ammo is tagged as a choice for phero pros (like 2X TUTH) as they are heavy -none products and they require expert phero users but I could not find any decent answer about this matter for IShine. Is 2X and 4X tagged as “pros only”? In other words, is 2X, 4X suitable/better for me or should I stick with a normal 1X IShine?

Thanks in advance for any replys! 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112/2 "2011-03-02T15:52:59Z")

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With IShine and the other socials, yes you can go pretty strong without significant risk of OD. However, doing this can leave you and your subjects feeling rather drained after a while.

For most tho, the higher strengths are a good economy measure as you need fewer sprays to hit your sweet spot.

I would suggest you find your sweet spot with the standard strength first, **especially** with the likes of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH as the risk of a counterproductive OD is much higher. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112/3 "2011-03-02T18:19:48Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> With IShine and the other socials, yes you can go pretty strong without significant risk of OD. However, doing this can leave you and your subjects feeling rather drained after a while.
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> For most tho, the higher strengths are a good economy measure as you need fewer sprays to hit your sweet spot.
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> I would suggest you find your sweet spot with the standard strength first, **especially** with the likes of Ammo and TUTH as the risk of a counterproductive OD is much higher. 🙂

Yes mobocaster is right. Keep in mind when MHarris originally posted about TAA and Ishine he mentioned that it was a very fast diffusing and light on the skin. It quickly dissipates into the atmosphere and therefore its effects on neuro-influencing are short-lived. The 4X is actually a very good deal as its going to be harder hitting. Remember though 4X does not get 4 times results, it only cuts down on the amount of sprays you need to wear. With Ishine this is a very beneficial effect as continued spraying is almost a necessary aspect of its use 🙂

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**Author:** ![Puzzytheif](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/puzzytheif/32/5194_2.png) [@Puzzytheif](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Puzzytheif)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112/4 "2011-03-02T18:29:33Z")

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When you spray 2-4 times to make the effect become stronger or last longer .. do you spray at the same place? Or different places?

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**Author:** ![Nick\_plo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nick_plo/32/2038_2.png) [@Nick\_plo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nick_plo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/quick-question-about-instant-shine/49112/5 "2011-03-03T13:27:19Z")

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ok I got it. thanks for your answers, much appreciated! 🙂