# Race Combos **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 12, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222 "2008-10-12T01:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/1 "2008-10-12T01:36:44Z")
Hey Guys, Someone should start a sticky on successful phero combos based on race/ethnicity exposure. I don’t think this will be the one. I’ll start it off. Well I don’t have a combo, but seeking for one. What’s a good combo for African American females? Through the five pages of results obtained from the “african” search query, the consensus was more dosage of -none (?) should work. Again, my stat line is: 24 yo, Filipino (SouthEast Asian), workout 4 days of weightlifting. How many sprays of what combos do you experts recommend? Arsenal: All ToGo (I read somewhere 1 full spray of ToGo is only like 85% of a regular bottle full spray) Ammo TUTH IS IFM (Read an article saying that 1 IFM is enough, confirm?) IH IO P83 [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) 2nd order to be place this week: A314 IG P79 So what do you guys think? Ammo, IS, and IH for a base? Apply TUTH when we get back to her place? ---
**Author:** ![phillykid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phillykid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phillykid)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/2 "2008-10-12T09:09:46Z")
i think **[MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) is gold**. consider giving it a try in your 2nd order. it works wonder on asians an smells darn good 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/3 "2008-10-12T11:23:26Z")
I would try MX 200 if I were going for asians. But I rarely do. I’m usually attracted to every other race than mine. Right now my target is african americans. Since, I’m southeast asian descent, I know I probably would have to use more -none than usual and than some, since African american women fare well with -none. Should I just stick with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and enhance it with P83 or P79? Perhaps a little A314? What about socials? ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/4 "2008-10-12T11:52:04Z")
ammo or TUTH would be good. Your asian decent tells me you can probably get away with more than most of us can, so test out your limits with it. mixing p83 with it, and maybe some alphanol would be best. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/5 "2008-10-13T02:56:55Z")
I can handle 3 ToGo sprays of Ammo pretty well. I can probably push it to 4 or just substitute TUTH for the extra spray. I may have to get the 2x strength of Ammo, because 3 sprays is pushing it as far as fragrance. Does anybody have any remedies as far as socials. I do plan on using a drop of A314, and some CTTM as well, probably add some IH in there. Should I include some IS? Is that pushing it. How will African American females react to IS? ---
**Author:** ![phillykid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phillykid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phillykid)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/6 "2008-10-13T02:58:30Z")
i think you can spray as many IS as long as you can stand the scent… i haven’t heard of anyone ODing on IS. ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/7 "2008-10-13T15:08:32Z")
1. look at taters journal. he talks of ih 4\* as being great with asians. ive had great results with high IS on japanese girls. est/ ifm good too. cttm2 has worked. strangely mx200 did nothin’ on a date with a chinese girl yesterday. she appeared repelled by the scent [Game i think] 2. Latinas or African americans - go high on -none. they have a strong tolerance. it has never backfired ok once i reaally od’d, but as a general rule around latinas - very good responses to Ammo or TUH. 3. blonde white girls - mx203 or IFM mixes seem to work better on euro girls with fair skin than -none mixes. 4. mediterranean girls - eg. french israeli italian seem to have good -none tolerance too. had good hits with any ammo combo. or on its own. i read on here somewhere that if girls grew up with fathers brothers with high natural -none, then they have a high tolerance to it. thus explaining y asian girls can be repelled by it as theyre not used to the smell. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/8 "2008-10-13T15:19:46Z")
> [@mahalo\_silver](#): > > i read on here somewhere that if girls grew up with fathers brothers with high natural -none, then they have a high tolerance to it. thus explaining y asian girls can be repelled by it as theyre not used to the smell. Interesting…that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/9 "2008-10-26T10:04:07Z")
Part II: Situation changes to a specific african american female. Going to stay in her pad for the weekend. She had a crush on me in high school, we are 6 years removed. She doesn’t have a man, and as far as I know she’s still a virgin, but pretty much open to anything that comes up (that’s my presumption). Will 2 sprays of on each side of the neck IG as a base, followed by 3 sprays of ammo ToGo on the chest and throat, with the usual arsenal of socials: CTTM ToGo 1 spray on each forearm, IH ToGo 1 spray on each wrists, IS ToGo 2 sprays on hair, IO 2 sprays back neck and wrists. Followed by 1 spray of TUTH ToGo if there are signs of comfort, seduction, intimacy. Will this work. I know, I know. You’ll tell me to try and see if it does. I need professionals who have tried a similar arsenal or have the knowledge to help me. Please??! BTW Pretty much going to be indoors at her pad just kickin it all weekend. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/10 "2008-10-26T10:46:02Z")
> [@jbg](#): > > Part II: Situation changes to a specific african american female. Going to stay in her pad for the weekend. She had a crush on me in high school, we are 6 years removed. She doesn’t have a man, and as far as I know she’s still a virgin, but pretty much open to anything that comes up (that’s my presumption). Will 2 sprays of on each side of the neck IG as a base, followed by 3 sprays of ammo ToGo on the chest and throat, with the usual arsenal of socials: CTTM ToGo 1 spray on each forearm, IH ToGo 1 spray on each wrists, IS ToGo 2 sprays on hair, IO 2 sprays back neck and wrists. Followed by 1 spray of TUTH ToGo if there are signs of comfort, seduction, intimacy. Will this work. I know, I know. You’ll tell me to try and see if it does. I need professionals who have tried a similar arsenal or have the knowledge to help me. Please??! BTW Pretty much going to be indoors at her pad just kickin it all weekend. more is not necessarily better. ammo is already a fairly complete mix, meaning it already has several [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) inside. There is a good chance that adding your entire stockpile on top of it will do more harm then good. additionally CTTM is a 50/50 ratio of alphanol and betanol. IH is betanol, and IO is alphanol. all your doing there is doubling up. My advice: try just using 1 sprays of ammo and work your way up. if you are going to be there all weekend, you can try new combos ever 12 hours or so and see what works best. if you really feel the need to mix more in, use CTTM and IS on top of the ammo. that will add more talking and comfort. My warning: If you OD on the -none in ammo at the beginning of the weekend, it may sour your entire weekend with her, so take it easy there. I don’t know how old you are but the younger you are the more -none you naturally produce. she had a crush on you before with no pheromones right? you will most likely be fine with just a little push in the right direction. No matter what, you have to do most of the work. 90% you 10% pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/11 "2008-10-26T16:12:25Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > **ammo or TUTH would be good**. Your asian decent tells me you can probably get away with more than most of us can, so test out your limits with it. mixing p83 with it, and maybe some alphanol would be best. Agreed, P! 🙂 AMMO and TUTH is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for those chocolate coated beauties! I get “you smell good!” “somebody smells real good!” all the time when I wear AMMO — 3-4 sprays. 😉 Should you want to push the envelope … a shot of TUTH, a couple of dabs of TE, or a couples of dabs of NPA on the necks pulse points covered with a shot of AMMO each side + 2 more shots of AMMO does a man guuuuud! ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/12 "2008-10-26T18:09:28Z")
Here is my view on this. Let’s just assume there are genetic differences among humans with respect to how sensitive they are to detecting pheromones and how they react to different pheromones. I think “race” would be a very low predictor of these characteristics, especially with respect to African-Americans. First of all, Africa is where most of the genetic diversity among humans can be found. All the other continents were populated by people who came from Africa; therefore, for the most part, Europeans, Asians, and native American gene pools are just subsets of what is found in Africa. So if there is genetic variation related to pheromone response, most of it could probably be found among Africans. This means that there would be too much variability from one African-American woman to the next with respect to this genetic diversity. Compounding the problem, genetic studies indicate that virtually all African-Americans have had at least one Caucasian ancestor within the last two hundred years, if not via consentual interracial marriage, then through rape during the time of slavery. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/13 "2008-10-26T18:45:43Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > more is not necessarily better. ammo is already a fairly complete mix, meaning it already has several pheromones inside. There is a good chance that adding your entire stockpile on top of it will do more harm then good. > > additionally CTTM is a 50/50 ratio of alphanol and betanol. IH is betanol, and IO is alphanol. all your doing there is doubling up. > > My advice: > > try just using 1 sprays of ammo and work your way up. if you are going to be there all weekend, you can try new combos ever 12 hours or so and see what works best. > > if you really feel the need to mix more in, use CTTM and IS on top of the ammo. that will add more talking and comfort. > > My warning: If you OD on the -none in ammo at the beginning of the weekend, it may sour your entire weekend with her, so take it easy there. I don’t know how old you are but the younger you are the more -none you naturally produce. she had a crush on you before with no pheromones right? you will most likely be fine with just a little push in the right direction. No matter what, you have to do most of the work. 90% you 10% pheromones. I agree. It’s just that I’ve been doing that lately. Using my whole stockpile. Are there any studies or experiments that suggest using CTTM (50/50) on the forearms, IH 1 spray per wrist, 1 spray of IO in the back of head, would yield different results than just using 3 sprays of CTTM (50/50). I know when its broken down its pretty much that. 50/50, 30/70, 70/30 alphanol and betanol wise. I was thinking depending on the females location from where I’m standing she would react differently, i.e. catching a whiff of the CTTM and IH from the front. I just figured since the names were different I can get results from that. CTTM-easy approach comfort. Coupled with IH - get deep down and maybe dirty secrets. As far as Ammo goes, I’m 24 as mentioned in the first post. My first time experience with Ammo was accidental 2.5 sprays to chest/throat area. Then went to the market. Some blonde girl 18-21 of age, was with her boyfriend. She caught a whiff of me while at the ice cream section. The I caught her just staring and giving me the “I’d fucked the shit out of you” look. So I figured that 2 sprays at the least would be best for me. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/14 "2008-10-26T18:53:18Z")
Race can play a small part and theory is that women are attracted to the signature they have grown up around and are accustomed to. This doesn’t mean they can not form a attraction to other signatures only that they feel most comfortable around certain mones. Going on the data of Anone being a derivative of Testosterone… African American men are said to make more Testosterone then Caucasian men so it would be safe to say that African American women would attract or feel comfort around anone. In actuality they make very similar total free floating testosterone as Caucasians. Latins have higher levels then both AA and Caucasian. Asians have the lower levels. > [@](#): > > **Abstract** > > This study examined the diurnal variation in circulating total and free testosterone and sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) levels in young adult African American and Caucasian men in order to investigate whether there are differences in the secretion of these plasma hormones in populations at different risks of developing prostate cancer as they age. A significant and similar diurnal rhythm for total and free testosterone was found for both groups. Serum levels of total testosterone were 29.4% and 23.9% lower at 8:00 PM than at 8:00 AM in African American and Caucasian men, respectively. \*\*Significantly higher serum levels of total testosterone (_P_[lt] .01) and SHBG (_P_ [lt] .02) were found in the African American than in the Caucasian men in both the morning and evening, whereas free testosterone levels were similar in both groups. \*\*The higher SHBG levels appear to have an environmental/metabolic basis in that the waist circumference, waist-to-hip ratio, and fasting insulin concentration were lower (_P_ [lt] .05) in African Americans than in Caucasians. In summary, these data indicate that racial differences in central adiposity in men are established in early adulthood and influence circulating SHBG and thereby testosterone levels. In light of the findings by others that SHBG increases cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) production in the prostate and that cAMP-dependent protein kinase A is a coactivator of the androgen receptor, these studies provide a possible mechanism by which circulating androgens may contribute to the increased risk for prostate cancer among African American men. For those interested this is a good read [Androgens in Health and Disease - Google Book Search](http://books.google.com/books?id=kUDc9cS50fcC&pg=PA163&lpg=PA163&dq=african+americans+testosterone+levels+compared+to+caucasian&source=web&ots=6Ns42y5KXq&sig=vzgJtVYFf6d6QTvWs-azRpuAyaY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPA163,M1) Tisha ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/15 "2008-10-26T18:59:40Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Agreed, P! 🙂 > > AMMO and TUTH is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for those chocolate coated beauties! I get “you smell good!” “somebody smells real good!” all the time when I wear AMMO — 3-4 sprays. 😉 > > Should you want to push the envelope … a shot of TUTH, a couple of dabs of TE, or a couples of dabs of NPA on the necks pulse points covered with a shot of AMMO each side + 2 more shots of AMMO does a man guuuuud! Well, haha, I don’t want to push anything, I just want to let it flow. On top of that I don’t have the edge or npa. I know there are a lot of success stories using ig and ammo and tuth, just wanted to know if any are specific ones similar to my target. I wouldn’t do TUTH until the second night. First night would be just a base of IG and Ammo, with socials. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/16 "2008-10-26T20:11:02Z")
> [@jbg](#): > > Well, haha, I don’t want to push anything, I just want to let it flow. On top of that I don’t have the edge or npa. I know there are a lot of success stories using ig and ammo and tuth, just wanted to know if any are specific ones similar to my target. I wouldn’t do TUTH until the second night. First night would be just a base of IG and Ammo, with socials. I can’t help you learn what I mean when I say what I say, so to keep it simple … use AMMO and TUTH, J. You’ll be glad you did! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/17 "2008-10-26T20:23:51Z")
I get what you say. I’m just worried ammo and tuth will come on too strong. But since you’re experience I’ll give a try. I’m just trying to be cautious because I still don’t know what she’s like and where she draws the line. Would be the same effect if I just re-up on ammo and add tuth. For example, use my regular daily use of socials and couple spray of ammo, then later that day 4-5 hours later, when I meet her, just re-up on ammo and a spray of tuth? ---
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/18 "2008-10-27T13:32:00Z")
2 sprays of IS on me is enough. Where as Ammo I can go to 3. I probably will get the 2x strength on my next Ammo order. ---
**Author:** ![nosemolester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nosemolester/32/1782_2.png) [@nosemolester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nosemolester)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/19 "2008-12-04T19:44:15Z")
I am AA female and I like musky muscular men. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222/20 "2008-12-04T20:19:41Z")
I have a bit of experience with the dark skinned lovelies, and I can tell you that they don’t just go for androsteNONE. They also like androsteRONE. They like their men to have a very aggressively masculine mix. More NONE than RONE even. I have gotten good responses from this class of women with Alter Ego and Ammunition. I ran out of TUTH before I could do much with it around them. But these two that I have mentioned have produced responses that doubtless had the Security services at wal mart wondering how I managed to get this woman to act like that in public… on a couple of occasions, I thought we were going to be escorted out. Oh… almost forgot. I was wearing 3-4 drops of AE (wrist, fore-arm, beard, neck) OR I was wearing 2-4 sprays of Ammunition (Neck, forearm, chest). [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/race-combos/21222.md?page=2)