# Rambling thoughts on P's and Molecules... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 10, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108 "2014-02-10T16:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/1 "2014-02-10T16:58:39Z")
My thoughts on some of my personal favorite P’s that I find exceptionally useful. I was deleting some notes and thought someone would like this info. **P96:** I have always found P96 as placing a long wick into fresh, wonderfully scented candle wax. Women want to know what the scent it, they can be enchanted by it. But it takes a while to figure out what scent it is and how much they like it. It is a Romantic Vibe molecule. Not a Same Night Stand molecule by far, but paired correctly can soften up a product which normally would be too masculine for a woman. Case and Point would be Instant Jerk X4 or A314. You would be amazed how well if buffers the negatives of those products. It is also a slight female mood enhancer. It has a fantastic buffer effect for other molecules and blends and is an essential piece of a fall out mix. More on the buffer, it almost links other molecules, as in they are not choppy. A lot of bad blends of member made blends, or even great blends like 297 have an element of being too choppy, if you will. The mix is a rough piece of stone, and P96 acts as a very efficacious polish. With the 297 example, it can be too validation and not romantic or masculine enough. Women want you for social validation, not due to sexual arousal in my experience. P96 bridges the social molecule with the other molecule in the mix and reduces and softens the negative side of the social molecule. To another product, A314, P96 helps remove intimidation and softens what often can be intimidation to others. This makes women far more receptive and men more friendly. The draw back is P96 can in some ways REDUCE the efficacy of other products. Not always true, but can be. P96 is one of the few molecules that can be added to ANYTHING but also requires you to NOT reduce the dose of the inital product. This may be hard for some to grasp, but in short, when mixing products you use LESS of each component to help them mesh and not conflict or fight for dominance in your signature, P96 is an exception that you can use FULL dose products and molecules with it and not face adverse reactions, in fact it almost helps. This plays with the wick mentality of P96 in that it can often help extend the life and almost leave a lasting impression or imprint on other people, much like A1. **P74:** At first I thought P74 was a boyfriend molecule. Although that opinion has not changed much, I have found a superior placement in sales. P74 seems to be a rapport molecule, It rides the line of I know you and I trust you extremely well. I find it can optimize with Instant Honesty, Beta - Nol, and contribute to deep connections and a crush vibe. Not many products can touch what A1 does but in my opinion this comes a little bit close to it. It also is preported to almost a ‘cool’ guy vibe, as in you have an ease and liekability to you and others. **P 83:** P83 is a disinhibition molecule. What does that mean? It means that it makes other products normally hit harder. This is a little secret to make decent products better. You can add P83 to nearly nay product made by any vendor to make your product more receptive. It does exceptionally well with high ENone. **P75:** P75 is a molecule that you can microdose. It was once thought and is believed to be ANone by some, but after a side by side comparison, not close. P75 is a masculine sexuality molecule to me. In small doses it can add sexuality and masculine appeal which young women are receptive to. If ENone is repulsive or off putting to a woman, P75 seems to be a decent replacement. P75 is a molecule I mix with products to improve results. I know a lot of older member use A314 and TUTH. I happen to like [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and 75 AND A314 and 75. **P79:** P79 is consistently one of the best P’s. It is an amplifier. It almost has an effect of making the pheromone signature more dense or thick. It increases how hard other molecules hit. It also can amplify your mood. Which is abnormal to think about, but it pushes you further down the rabbit hole of being happy or sad, for example. It tends to work best with other single molecules, and I do not find it to be optimal to add it to other products. **P91:** If you use this P you will find it is similar to 297. It is life of the party and is very social as well as an extroversion molecule. But it has limits. It can be used to steer eNone very well. It can be added to Instant Jerk, Ammo, or other high eNone products as a very efficient buffer. **P97:** I like to think of it as slight Status, confidence and a ease of going through the world. I see it as a like molecule to P96. Except P97 has one special combination, with high eNone! It shifts high eNone to become a dark mysterious vibe. It greatly improves any high eNone mix. **Beta - Nol:** This is the primary component of Instant Honestly. Many people report that this is almost off putting, and that is why it is paired with Alpha - Nol to soften it up. A caveat is that at high dosage (50 - 100 mcg) it creates a vibe. That vibe can be described as an aura. That aura is one of familiarity, and of deep connection. People tend to think they know you or think they did previously. This molecule pairs fantastically well with other products and molecules in order to create aforementioned vibe and/or establish deep connection with new people. It is not ‘a truth serum’ but more of connection and a sense of knowing someone, akin to a childhood friend. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/2 "2014-02-10T18:12:16Z")
We have a winner! I only had to read a few lines to know this warranted a nom. Agree on P74. Doing some experiments going back to last summer with androsterone/74 ratios. Just instinct. Smell them. Wearing it, and simple Rone/74/TAF turned my afternoon around. I have been and will be working more with testing simple mixes from the ExperiMone line. This is where all the Instants came from, and A314, from 2005+. But yes, newer putatives have probably worked into 314, etc. And I still remind myself that many, many mainstream products are built on kit of about 12 basic [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). It’s all ratios. It takes so long to see the subtlety. To get 74 to work without being beta and to boost it with steering. ANOL, BNOL, Rone, None, TAF. In fact, I’d bet the discontinued ladies IH was made of those, ex. the None. Keep on truckin’ Kimba. PS. Somewhere, P79 got a bum rap. But this isn’t supported by earlier posts. It is an effective steering mone when used with skill. If it weren’t, it wouldn’t be there. I have unwisely avoided it out of irrational concern. But is only appropriate for skilled users. It should be the _last_ of the listed items here that one tests. Newbies should look to nols, etc. as they are (almost) foolproof. 50 mcg is the supernatural BNOL dose. Have you tried it with P79? Only one question on P96: Does it make you drowsy in any way. Calming, sedate, etc. What happens if you try it to buffer P75, 79 or TAF? The question has a biochemical foundation of interest to me. Some mones have simultaneous effects across GABA, NDMA and glutamate and defy easy understanding. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/3 "2014-02-10T18:44:18Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Only one question on P96: Does it make you drowsy in any way. Calming, sedate, etc. What happens if you try it to buffer P75, 79 or TAF? The question has a biochemical foundation of interest to me. Some mones have simultaneous effects across GABA, NDMA and glutamate and defy easy understanding. I think P96 is a positive modulator of GABA, it makes me tired, each higher the dose the higher the drowsiness. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/4 "2014-02-10T21:57:26Z")
I first tested P96 a while ago. I got more from Pago and picked some up from other members with the purpose of smoothing out other mixes. Once I figured it out I used it for optimal results. From what I remember from the notes I have left on this computer, It was more sedative than anything else. Calming at most. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/5 "2014-02-11T08:39:12Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Only one question on P96: Does it make you drowsy in any way. Calming, sedate, etc. The question has a biochemical foundation of interest to me. Some mones have simultaneous effects across GABA, NDMA and glutamate and defy easy understanding. In my experience, I don’t feel any drowsiness, calming, or sedation with 25 mcg p96. Perhaps a contemplative appreciation, but nothing physically noticeable. Same with 50 mcg, but I’m not done testing at that dosage. I’ll pay particular attention next time. ---
**Author:** ![Elvenrunelord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Elvenrunelord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elvenrunelord)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/6 "2014-02-11T11:50:22Z")
Thanks Kimba, I’ve found your post to help me understand some of the putatives that ADR has. Amazing reporting as always ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/7 "2014-02-11T18:00:57Z")
p96 I find ever so slightly calming. But definitely not drowsy. I feel my thoughts are more clear and succinct when I’m wearing p96. These self effects are very,very subtle though. p96 only shines for me when I’m in conversation with someone else. In those circumstances it’s a real pick-me-up kind of [pheromone](https://a314.com/), although it feels entirely organic. Indeed, I wouldn’t want to say whether p96 creates the pickup itself or that the pickup is a byproduct of crazy, deep rapport. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/8 "2014-02-11T18:09:34Z")
**p78:** A buzz. Energy. A feminine p74 with a bit more fizz. Charismatic. An impatient urge to _do something_. Be active. Jump up and down. Butterflies in your stomach. **p99** Subtle and inconspicuous like p96 is. Pastel. Agreeable. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) like. Calming. Pleasing. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/9 "2014-02-11T18:23:21Z")
There’s a class of 4 diol compounds that are mood stabilizers rather than straight calming or stimulating. They enhance function of GABA more naturally. I’d assume Androtics knows about them. They sound like P96 reports to me. They may represent future medical treatments or pheromones. I may have mentioned this, but medical researchers buy steroids from labs to prepare injections. There’s big money in successful, dosed pharmaceuticals for vet or human use. The arrogance or bias of the same means they don’t prepare alcohol sprays of mone concentrates or “test” them on skin. They don’t acknowledge this as an acceptable delivery form of the compound or to be mainstream science. I can think of about 50 such molecules, intensely studied and bioactive, but the only “studies” as sprays are what’s done here. Unless it’s a bespoke synthesis at hourly lawyers’ rates, you can see where some of these molecules are rare when there are few primary university buyers. You might see these at the pharmacy one day, but that hasn’t happened yet. Except for atypical injected anesthetics. They _have been tested_, but not as mones. The promising bioactive ones may become future putatives, cost permitting. As this thread demonstrates, I think comparison/contrast polls are useful. Encourages people to test things _like_ something else that normally receive little attention. If people don’t occasionally go for P94 or 99 or whatever, they might go away in a period of austerity, as has happened in recent memory. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/10 "2014-02-12T11:59:57Z")
P78 is one of my favorites I didn’t list. It has an amazing capacity too buffer high enone and make a super masculine or aggressive blend soft and charismatic. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/11 "2014-02-12T17:43:41Z")
P96 is my favorite molecule, P86 being a close second ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/12 "2014-02-13T10:38:55Z")
Correction. Today, 45 min after application of 50 mcg p96, I definitely felt a mild calm. Slightly blissful. Will elaborate in my journal. Here’s the entry: [Miss Dragon's Journal! Yay! - #45 by Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/miss-dragons-journal-yay/58954/45) ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rambling-thoughts-on-ps-and-molecules/61108/13 "2014-02-16T23:27:58Z")
I wouldn’t suggest that much 96. For men at least it shines at a slightly lower dose an to blend molecules. Some singles always did better for me as a steering molecule as others produce overt reactions to harness.