# Raw Power or Alpha-7? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 7, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534 "2007-05-07T21:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![REDFACE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/redface/32/577_2.png) [@REDFACE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/REDFACE)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/1 "2007-05-07T21:56:40Z")
Two part question - I am 90% sure I’m looking for a product such as Raw Power or Alpha-7. I always get described as the nice guy/laid-back type. I have a “milder” personality. Girls tell me I’m “cute.” I hate that. I also hate feeling anxious or even beta in social situations (largely due to the face that I think I’m scrawny). Am I right in thinking a -none heavy product is right for me?? Secondly - what are your thoughts on Raw Power vs. Alpha-7. I realize that Alpha-7 is not an Andriotics product, but I’d still like some unbiased opinion. Below is a synopsis of each product. Here is my conflict: Raw power is cheaper, has a high quality dropper, AND I get 15mL of it. Alpha-7 has more -none AND has -Androsterone to make it more social. Since I’m only looking to buy one product, I’m leaning towards A7, because I feel like I might have to augment RP with something like A314. Thoughts?? **Alpha-7** Alpha-7 is similar to Primal Instinct but with 40% more [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) overall, and a more complex formula (Androsterone and Androstenone vs. Androstenone alone) Alpha 7 boasts 6mg androstenone and 1 mg androsterone This is the UNscented version, which if you are new to pheromones means it has a characteristic musky pheromone smell not totally unlike human body odor. A7 also comes in a scented version which has an all-natural spicy fragrance added. 10mL dripper top bottle **Raw Power** 5.4mg pure androstenone 10mcg per drop Sturdy 15ml blue cobalt bottle with dropper top Synthetic oil base modified to have enhanced diffusion characteristics over standard oil bases Highly mixable with oil and alcohol based cologne products RAW POWER… in every way, superior to Primal Instinct. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/2 "2007-05-07T23:19:57Z")
seems like both products want to out-do Primal Instinct, Primal is the most popular straight Androstenone product on the market, it does work, but it is very easy to OD using it, on the other hand, Alpha 7 is even more potent and even easier to OD but does include .Androsterone which for me is a very important [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in any given mix, Raw Power on the other hand seems fairly safe considering it is only 10mcg of Androstenone per drop. I have Alpha 7, but am considering Raw Power. - my opinion is for you to go with Primal, it’s such a shitty product… ---
**Author:** ![REDFACE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/redface/32/577_2.png) [@REDFACE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/REDFACE)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/3 "2007-05-07T23:33:04Z")
Wait… wait… why primal?? That wasn’t even an option! And from what you’ve experienced with Alpha-7, do you think I’m right in guessing a -none heavy product is what I need? ---
**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/4 "2007-05-08T07:51:43Z")
> [@REDFACE](#): > > Wait… wait… why primal?? That wasn’t even an option! And from what you’ve experienced with Alpha-7, do you think I’m right in guessing a -none heavy product is what I need? You have stated that you lean more favourably towards Alpha 7 because it is enhanced with Androsterone, so obviously this is the better choice between these two products you have placed here for consideration simply because of the fact that you only wish to purchase one product. I have used straight high none products and also Alpha 7, which is an excellent product with the little rone that suprising enough adds a very nice social friendly vibe to it, this is a concentrated product and even one drop would be enough to blast some young men into OD territory, so you would have to start out with the smallest dab. I also would consider [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) excellent value for money for anyone requiring a usable and versatile source of anone. As for PI i have used it and i do not rate it at all, as it will not stand beside the integrity of RP or A7 for that matter or even TE. Anyhow before going for concentrated anone it may pay you to look at some other formulas that have smaller and more controlled sources of anone. It is always better wait around and get other opinions so as to choose somethin more suitable for your individual age and ph make up. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/5 "2007-05-08T08:25:01Z")
Their has been some rummblings at the LS forums about QC problems with Primal Instinct. Sounds like a bum batch. I know some of the users exchanged the bad Primal Instinct for A7 and seemed pretty dad burn happy. If you want the caveman vibe, you might also consider The Edge, NPA and Turn Up The Heat. Unscented The Edge is the bargain of the bunch and worked superbly for me. Kinda stinky–well, really stinky–and I nearly had to club the women to keep them off me. Nowadays I stick to more mellow stuff such as AMMO, PP, CTTW or Scent of Eros. It’s nice as I don’t have to look over my shoulder all the time. ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/6 "2007-05-08T09:11:23Z")
Edge sandalwood covers the kitty piss smell pretty well i think. it’s still my favorite product that guarantees consistent results. i can spray 8-10 sprays on my shirt and cover it with coolwater. im anxious to see if pheroproof can rival or beat the Edge in terms of jaw dropping effects. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![REDFACE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/redface/32/577_2.png) [@REDFACE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/REDFACE)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/7 "2007-05-09T19:27:13Z")
Is Alpha-7 similar to Turn Up The Heat (which I read is a night time phero)? Reason being that I’m looking for something that I can wear at work as well as at night (I work in a predominantly female environment, so I’m not too worried about getting aggro from other males). Plus Alpha-7 is 6 parts -none 1 part -Androsterone to make it friendlier. I’m almost wanting to shell out the dough for [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), A314, and TUTH, but if Alpha-7 would do the trick (I want to have women crawling over me) then that’d be a lot easier on this poor college student. So if you could give me the pros and cons of each setup, it’ be much appreciated… I’m REALLY itching to purchase something. ---
**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 11:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/8 "2007-05-10T11:22:56Z")
> [@REDFACE](#): > > Is Alpha-7 similar to Turn Up The Heat (which I read is a night time phero)? Reason being that I’m looking for something that I can wear at work as well as at night (I work in a predominantly female environment, so I’m not too worried about getting aggro from other males). Plus Alpha-7 is 6 parts -none 1 part -Androsterone to make it friendlier. > > I’m almost wanting to shell out the dough for Instant Shine, A314, and Turn Up The Heat, but if Alpha-7 would do the trick (I want to have women crawling over me) then that’d be a lot easier on this poor college student. > > So if you could give me the pros and cons of each setup, it’ be much appreciated… I’m REALLY itching to purchase something. I would say order the Instant shine and the Turn up the heat, because you can spray some IS to receive some positive attention, and then as you are becoming more familiarised with the girls you have the opportunity to start adding the TUTH in a controlled manner starting at 2.5mcg per spray and moving up an extra spray or two if necessary. Where as a drop of A7 could very easily wipe you out of the popularity ratings, as it can be perceived as heavy and serious by young women, mind you, you might be kidnapped by a few mothers lol. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/9 "2007-05-11T00:25:44Z")
I don’t know why KZI decided to release a none:rone ratio of 6:1 when they had earlier had users test 4:2, 5:1 and 3:3 ratios at LS and 3:3 and 4:2 were preferred by more users compared to 5:1. Now 6:1…😕 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/10 "2007-05-11T01:13:22Z")
i was one of the testers, 5:1 was indeed good, i believe the reason why they chose 6:1 was mainly a marketing strategy, to knock off primal as the most potent A-none product, and the .rone gives the product a smoother finish that primal lacks, and kzi do indeed use good quality pheromones ive been told, but than again so does Androtics alpha 7 is very very strong, its the strongest pheromone ive ever come across, take the bottle cap off and you can smell the a-none emanating from the other side of the room ---
**Author:** ![oldgezer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9e8a1a/32.png) [@oldgezer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oldgezer)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/11 "2008-03-24T17:27:09Z")
then what would be a safe amount of ala-7 to start with - a dab on your finger? could it be used with a drop or two of a314 and balanced with IS, IH, and other product from the instantline, or maybe even SOE? ---
**Author:** ![hank.moody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@hank.moody](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hank.moody)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/12 "2008-11-22T21:22:52Z")
try 1-2 drops on a finger - then apply to each side of the neck… then go out and explore the effects (very effective in a business and social environment) if you OD, you’ll notice it yourself (behaviourwise, I don’t know, but the smell will be there) overall, a very very awesome pheromone… highly effective. and the fact that it’s oil-based, it makes it “last” longer… much longer. you can mix it with some sexual stuff (chikara - 1-2 sprays max) to get results with women. just don’t OD it unless you’re experimenting. applying some nice cologne over it is essential. people won’t notice anything else. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-or-alpha-7/3534/13 "2008-11-23T09:41:29Z")
this thread has inspired me to try a big none mix tonight!