# RAW Power Test Pack - UNABLE TO USE **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 23, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939 "2009-07-23T16:21:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/1 "2009-07-23T16:21:23Z")
**UPDATE:** i found a way to control this headacke and finally test this product. **MX312** is not like the others. Its weak. i think it has less mones (or mcg) in it. No male agression , and not that much female interactions with this one same things goes for **mx311** not much from thoose 2 (as standalone). I have good predictions for **MX313** (it smells stronger and musky, or its just a strong musky fragrance without any pheros) and mx316 (it looks like **MX316** is with more mones in it… or one of the pheromones is in large amount) * * * old post: ok here is something weird. I have been using pheromones for quite some time now. And never had this problem. This year i started to experience some really BAD headaches from -none products. It all started after using an oil based perfume with -none in it. when i realized that this was causin the problem i threw this thing away(its not made from androtics direct). Right after that i used TUTH and other androtics -NONE products. and there ware no headaches at all. so i decided that there was something wrong with the oil. Last month i got the RAW Power Test Pack. **I started with mx311. 2 sprays.** 20min later the headache started. 3 hours later i was in hell.. i got the most terrible headache in my life. I got home and took a long shower hoping to wipe out the stuff. the headache continued all day and night. the scent was burned in my head. **2 days later i tried TUTH… and [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)… no headache !** from this point on i tried mx311 couple of times more(only 1 spray). same thing happened… i barely made through the day. i was unable to focus and think at all. **after those 4 tries.. i decided to try 316.** headache again. so i gave up testing the RAW pack. (until i can figure out those headaches). I am starting to think that -none have probably nothing to do with the headache. Probably its the scent..?? If 316 is a placebo.. then this is defiantly the scent.. or some other pheromone used to buffer this. But it looks like this mone is only present at the raw pack.. not in the TUTH or AMMO. Can someone give me input on this ? Anyone else got this problem? thanx ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/2 "2009-07-23T16:44:44Z")
I accept donations. LOL ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/3 "2009-07-23T16:45:09Z")
That really sucks bro, I would think it is the scent package, it is different musks ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/4 "2009-07-23T17:28:26Z")
I have had some odd effects with the [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) pack too. I can still test them, but some things make me wonder. Some of the effects I’ve had… Eye twitches was a weird one, and it’s still around. Started when I sprayed Raw Power for a few days in a row, and would return when I sprayed it again. Also I got lots of frustration from a few of the tests after a few hours. I do not experience any shortness of breath like I used to get with other none based products. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/5 "2009-07-24T09:46:10Z")
I can not make any observations on the product… this headache starts.. and i cant think straight at all. strange… i am afraid to start testing each one from the pack.. 🙂 but in the name of science 😃 i think i will start the tests again ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/6 "2009-07-24T12:41:51Z")
I agree that it sounds like you are sensitive to some ingredient in the scent rather than the pheros themselves. There is something in most commercial & designer perfumes (cheap, expensive, doesn’t matter) that gives me a headache and makes me want to puke. I can’t even stand those sniffy ad inserts in magazines. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/7 "2009-07-24T13:23:07Z")
> [@xev](#): > > I agree that it sounds like you are sensitive to some ingredient in the scent rather than the pheros themselves. > > There is something in most commercial & designer perfumes (cheap, expensive, doesn’t matter) that gives me a headache and makes me want to puke. I can’t even stand those sniffy ad inserts in magazines. you are right Its probably scent… not the -none.. I just used 3 sprays of MX312 lets see how it turns out after a few hours ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/8 "2009-07-24T16:42:35Z")
I don’t know if it’s the scent… because it uses the [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scent package, which is the same as your favorite, A314!!! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/9 "2009-07-24T16:59:26Z")
[Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) test pack is Akuto scented? I thought Steve said it was unscented (well, just musk.) 😕 > [@evolver](#): > > I don’t know if it’s the scent… > > because it uses the Akuto scent package, which is the same as your favorite, A314!!! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/10 "2009-07-24T17:15:41Z")
Its [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scented? Gotta get me some if thats the case! The Game scented products aren’t exactly my cup of tea but I love the Akuto scent. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/11 "2009-07-24T17:25:38Z")
no i dont think it is akuto scented the first batch they made it was a mistake and came game scented, after that i think it was scented with a musk if i recall but i never tried them so not sure ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/12 "2009-07-24T17:31:30Z")
here you go > [@MX305-310 Raw Power Test Pack](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx305-310-raw-power-test-pack/26214/9): > > Raw Power is not supposed to be fragranced with anything except a tiny bit of musk to project the pheromones a little better. Must’ve been a mix up in communication somewhere. If this pack came out game fragranced, we’ll dump 'em. > [@Jasmin](#): > > Raw Power is not supposed to be fragranced with anything except a tiny bit of musk to project the pheromones a little better. Must’ve been a mix up in communication somewhere. > > If this pack came out game fragranced, we’ll dump 'em. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/13 "2009-07-30T12:34:46Z")
i found a way to control this headacke and finally test this product. **MX312** is not like the others. Its weak. i think it has less mones (or mcg) in it. No male agression , and not that much female interactions with this one same things goes for **mx311** not much from thoose 2 (as standalone). I have good predictions for **MX313** (it smells stronger and musky, or its just a strong musky fragrance without any pheros) and mx316 (it looks like **MX316** is with more mones in it… or one of the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) is in large amount) ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/14 "2009-07-30T15:52:59Z")
Lets see ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/15 "2009-07-30T17:36:48Z")
Hm, they must have mixed things up from the first MX [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) test goof pack because MX305 (the first in the serious) was crazy in your face, and the scent was also a bit stronger on that one. I wonder… > [@idle](#): > > i found a way to control this headacke and finally test this product. > > **MX312** is not like the others. Its weak. i think it has less mones (or mcg) in it. > No male agression , and not that much female interactions with this one > same things goes for **mx311** > not much from thoose 2 (as standalone). > > I have good predictions for **MX313** (it smells stronger and musky, or its just a strong musky fragrance without any pheros) and mx316 (it looks like **MX316** is with more mones in it… or one of the pheromones is in large amount) ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/16 "2009-07-30T19:44:58Z")
Idle, I’ll be interested to see what you have to say about 313. It is the only one in the pack I havn’t tested. I have tested the others, and with the exeption of a few minor hits from 316, and getting hit on by a lesbian when I was wearing 315, I have had no success with this test pack.😕 Its to bad. I thought it would be something i would have success with ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/17 "2009-08-14T12:16:35Z")
I just remembered that i have a thread abot RAW 🙂 lol 🙂 so here are my last notes > [@Court tomorrow. What should I use?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/court-tomorrow-what-should-i-use/31509/7): > > Just back from court… > I used 3 sprays of MX312 … or it was mx313 😕 i was in a hurry and didnt red the lable.. (.. almost certan that is 313.. i moved 312 aside… but i will figure this out later) > And ~ 50mcg of RONE > > so it went… pretty well… for now.. > I was postponed for a month (this is a good think)… > i will be ready for the next time 🙂 > > now about RAW… the prosecutor kinda liked me 😃 lol… after 30min close to her.. she started asking me questions about my personal love life.. 🙂 and believe me .. this have nothing to do with the case. > She asked me about my girlfriend, do we live together and stuff like that. > SHE EVEN gave me her personal phone number.. so i could call her if i decide to change my address or phone. > (my layer said that this is weird) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hyper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper/32/1326_2.png) [@Hyper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hyper)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/18 "2009-12-02T15:17:03Z")
> [@idle](#): > > **UPDATE:** > i found a way to control this headacke and finally test this product. How do you control this headache now?? I also have this problem. I tried MX311, 312 and 316. From all of them i get headache most times. It seems to be the scent. In the first moment i think, wow this smells just amazing so unique and special, but already after few minutes i can’t stand it any longer. I immediately feel dizzy and very strange. After 10 minutes the headache begins. When i apply it to the chest or to forearms it is worst. Applying to the neck seems to be the only way to use it. Very strange is, that no friends even not my girlfriend said anything about the scent. I could’t see any effects to others ☹ ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-test-pack-unable-to-use/30939/19 "2009-12-05T20:50:33Z")
Just an FYI: I used to get headaches when I first started using AMMO (old scent) for whatever reason and it subsided when I started wearing on the back of my neck. These days I haven’t noticed it with any of the others.